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vibhu000
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May 21, 2019
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Why Generation X people don't like spending time in editing their landscape photos?

  • May 21, 2019
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I know lots of Gen X people (born in between 1961 and 1980) who don't like editing their photos in Photoshop and Lightroom. I think that they don't like editing at all. Most of them own a high-class DSLR camera Canon EOS 5D Mark IV and they just keep the photos as they are. They don't even slightly edit their photos before posting on social media or printing.

Gen X people - can you tell me why?

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    Ussnorway7605025
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    May 22, 2019

    Posting a SooC (straight out of camera) is a point of pride for many old farts

    example (edited in Lightroom)

    vs SooC

    this Frogmouth came by to say G'day tonight and my non-DSLR Cannon SX60 is just as good... ime some skill + bit of luck is what Photography is really about mate

    D Fosse
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    May 22, 2019

    Yeah, except they misunderstand the whole thing. There is no straight out of the camera. There's a whole factory in there, run by some random people at Canon or Nikon, making all these creative decisions on script. You're effectively taking half the picture, leaving the other half to people you don't know and whose motives there's no particular reason to trust.

    It's exactly the same as handing your color negative film to the shop on the corner, and calling the random, automated prints you get  back "straight out of the camera".

    Ussnorway7605025
    Legend
    May 22, 2019

    if you are setting your camera to full auto yes... and people that do that aren't really photographers but just people that happen to take a photo

    • you have portrait where editing is practically demanded by the clients
    • Landscapes is very common but not needed... trends come and go like HDR which was all the rage for a few years and now seen as cheating by many
    • Astrophotography splits people about 50%-50% because the camera can't see it so you do the settings yourself or make a computer image that really isn't a "photo" any more

    so on and so forth, if we are talking about people that open a raw image in Lightroom only to press the "auto" then fine but ime that is just as likely to bugger a photo as fix it... SooC is about seeing the image in your mind before pressing the button & is mostly pride that you got it right

    ime most photographers are only willing to show images that are spot on so it looks like they are batting 1000 which is not the same as ipad generation where any old crap is fine for a blog post

    p.s, full disclosure = I'm a Gen X

    John Waller
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    May 21, 2019

    I'm a Gen-Xer and shoot with a Canon 5D Mark III. I've always edited my photos.

    Before the digital era, I spent many school lunchtimes in the school darkroom with chemicals, dodging and burning.

    My experience is that it's the Baby Boomers and older who don't edit as much as the younger generations.

    davescm
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    May 21, 2019

    I am a bit too old to be Generation -X (by your definition) but I think you are asking this question in the wrong place. A Photoshop/Lightroom  forum is going to be populated mainly by folk who do edit their images.

    The sales of Photoshop since the Photography plan was created suggest that more people than ever have access to pro-editing applications. Are you suggesting that Gen-X people are not a significant part of that growth?

    As for the "high class cameras". Folk in that age band do tend to have a higher disposable income which brings the ability to choose a more expensive camera. It does surprise me sometimes , in these forums, where someone has purchased the latest camera but is unwilling to join the subscription for the latest software with which to use it.

    Dave

    Trevor.Dennis
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    May 21, 2019

    I had to look this up, and found

    Lost Generation     1883 — 1900

    Greatest generation     1901 — 1929

    Silent Generation     1930 — 1945

    Baby Boomers      1946 — 1964

    Generation X     1965 — 1980

    Millennials     1981 — 2000   aka Lutz

    Generation Z     2001...

    Some of it makes interesting reading.   The Silent Generation, for instance, harks back to McCarthyism where people thought it prudent to keep their views to themselves or risk knee jerk reactions from ultra conservative Americans. 

    What any of it has to do with editing photographs, I don't know, and like others in this thread, I think it is probably a false premise.   If it does have some basis in fact, I suspect it might be linked to the birth of digital photography, which made it so convenient to access image files with a computer.  People who were already of an age when this happened, might have been nervous about using computers, so dug in and said that Photoshop was the work of the devil, and that what it did to photographs was not pure, or not even Photography.  A ridiculous argument as photographs seldom reflect _exactly_ what we remembered seeing with our eyes.

    I can think of at least three elderly Camera Club members who resigned citing the unfair advantage Photoshop users had in Club competitions.  When it comes right down to it, they had a point, but probably not precisely the one they had in mind.  It's years since I entered photographic competitions, salons and exhibitions, and a big part of the reason is knowing how much people cheat.  My argument to the digital detractors is that the same rules apply to everyone.  In NZ up to 30% of a competition entry can be 'computer generated, but this does not apply to Natural History or Photojournalism.

    In NH you should not have 'The Hand of Man' visible in a competition entry, and you are not allowed to do more than basic overall adjustment of brightness, and 'maybe' contrast. Local adjustments are totally against the rules, but I know people who flagrantly ignore those rules editing out distracting backgrounds.  I know another lady who is obsessed with having strings of letters after her name, and who once described to two friends of mine how she achieved an award winning image of a butterfly emerging from its chrysalis.  She brought the twig inside, and arranged it with false background and carefully set up lighting, then sat down in comfort waiting for the perfect moment.  I mentioned this online, and got a desperate phone call from the photographer who blatantly lied to me.  I have zero respect for that person now.

    JJMack
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    May 21, 2019

    I should not have appended then I'm a member of the Silent Generation December 1940, smack in the middle of it.  Like "Lucky Few"  better if fits how I feel my life has been so far....

    JJMack
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    May 21, 2019

    Did it ever occur to you that some of the Images they get from their camera satisfies their needs so they juste delete the others. They need not wast their time editiing images they don't need

    JJMack
    Myra Ferguson
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    May 21, 2019

    Gen X-er here - Interesting question. I'm curious what your expectation for editing is, what type of images you mean (like for what purpose--special occasion, work, or personal photos), and if you mean using Lightroom mobile on a phone before posting online. I'm also interested in what is your generation.

    I use a Fujifilm X-T10 and my Pixel 3XL. I use them for different purposes. For special events, I usually use the X-T10, take a lot of photos, sort through them to pick the best ones, edit those at varying levels (some extensively depending on what I'm trying to achieve and some not so much--mainly exposure and cropping/rotating), and post those. For casual gatherings and unplanned photo-taking, I'll use my phone. I take a handful of shots for "safety" and pick the best to post on social media--usually without much or any editing. Photos I print are almost entirely taken from the X-T10 and are edited.

    I think your question is interesting because of the Gen X aspect. When I was younger, I liked taking pictures, but it was a different experience. It was expensive. I wouldn't know what I had captured until it was developed, so I didn't take as many pictures as I would have liked. But now with digital photography, I feel like I have a lot more freedom to take shots--maybe I take too many. My general approach is to get it as close to what I want in camera and then edit. The context has a lot to do with the level of editing. If the photo captures a significant moment, I'll spend more time crafting it. If it's casual and looks pretty good, I'll likely upload it untouched.

    But I may not be a good representative sample of Gen Xers. I work in digital media, so I'm much more comfortable with experimenting with new software and techniques.

    melissapiccone
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    May 21, 2019

    Maybe they don't have Lightroom or Photoshop and don't know how to use them? I'm genX and I do minimal processing because I go through 100's of photos at a time for my scrapbooks.

    Melissa Piccone | Adobe Trainer | Online Courses Author | Fine Artist
    floramc
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    May 21, 2019

    I had no idea I was a gen X, but I am in the club 61-80 and I actually LOVE editing, but this is what I have for you, three answers:

    1) people who used film cameras, they used to drop their films in labs that automatically enhanced their pictures and delivered them ready on paper. So they are convinced that they saw their pictures as they were on the film. Indeed, an automatic enhancing elaboration was made on them, mostly on contrast, saturation and brightness. But they do not know. So they think that the only picture possible is straight out of the camera, not even enhancing allowed, and for a sense of authenticity and continuity, they do not retouch anything. But it is based on a misconception;

    2) people who do not know what to do. They look at their pictures and they either lack a visual education, a creative mindset, or they lack any knowledge of editing programs and out of fear that they will do the wrong thing on their pictures, they rather let that go. So this one is based on a lack of education of some sorts;

    3) people who have different philosophical approaches. This is a bit theoretical, but since photography exists, we have two main streams that rarely meet: one is the one that consider photography as a sort of science, or documentation instrument and sees the photograph as a mirror of reality; the other one is an artistic view, where pictorialism found home, that since the very beginning considered photographs as a layer for a more creative work of art. Instead of just documenting reality, it could be used to unleash your own fantasy and sense of creation. Since always, the two streams do not communicate well with each other, and so there are people like I, a gen X that did not even know to be a gen X, but that belong to the pictorialist legacy, that sees an opportunity to endlessly enhance to match a feeling, and edit and create something more than just the thing as it is, and there are people who look at pictures as a way to represent reality that must be left as it is. So this explanation is based on different philosophies at the core bottom of the reasons why the very picture is taken.

    Community Expert
    May 21, 2019

    I'm Gen X and I do all the time.  This is a really, REALLY odd question.

    D Fosse
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    May 21, 2019

    Actually, some of them do, they just make sure they're not caught doing it :-D

    jane-e
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    May 21, 2019

    vibhu000  wrote

    I know lots of Gen X people (born in between 1961 and 1980) who don't like editing their photos...

    Hi vibhu,

    Have you already asked the ”lots of Gen X people” you know? What are their answers?

    Jane