Yellow printing orange

[Lobsters15]

I have the latest version of Photoshop. When I paint a yellow colour in Photoshop it prints out yellow on my Canon ip8700 printer but when I print out photographs I have taken the yellow prints out orange.  

[NB, colourmanagement net]

This looks like a colourmanagement issue,

You need to check the document colour space***  of your photo images and the documents you paint into.

If you're not correctly using document color management here that’s an issue. 

***document ICC profile can optionally be shown at the bottom edge of the document frame, mine is "Adobe RGB" here

Troubleshooting - I suggest you test this:

Open one of those photos with yellow [check the document color space (icc profile) whilst you're there].

Set the brush colour by sampling from a yellow area that’s featured in that photo image - then paint an area onto the photo using that same yellow - and now print it - what happens now?

Also to be sure you are viewing actual color on screen, its pretty vital to make sure the screen is correctly calibrated and profiled.

And when printing, ideally use "photoshop manages color" and the relevant paper profile and media setting in your print process. 

Maybe all that’s OK if you are already seeing a good match between printed photo images and the monitor screen.

I hope this helps
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[Lobsters15]

Hi,

When I use the colour picker in Photoshop on the yellow of the photograph
and brush that yellow colour on the photograph it prints out yellow
although the sampled yellow prints orange. All very puzzling.

Kind regards

Martin Waddell

[NB, colourmanagement net]

Hi

not sure what you mean, you write 

"When I use the colour picker in Photoshop on the yellow of the photograph
and brush that yellow colour on the photograph it prints out yellow"
OK so that’s good
"although the sampled yellow prints orange."

hang on, you just wrote above that the painted colour prints yellow? 

You seem to mean that the colour brushed onto the photo prints out yellow

BUT 

then you wrote that the sampled colour prints orange? 

I was trying to help you isolate a colour from a photo that should be yellow [and appears yellow on screen] but prints orange - sampling that "screen "yellow" and painting into the same image with it gives you an identical colour - right. 

Do you mean

The original yellow in the photo [which you have sampled] prints orange (and always did)? 

But when that colour is sampled and painted back onto the same image [painted yellow matches to photo yellow on screen] and that same colour [as painted on] prints correctly as yellow?

that’s sounding like a bug maybe

Did you look at the colour management settings as I described? 

I hope this helps
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[Lobsters15]

Sorry for the confusion.

All  the yellows of the photograph obtained from the internet print out orange.

When I use the colour picker on a yellow region of the photograph and brush that yellow onto the photograph that brushed yellow prints out yellow.

The photograph had no assigned RGB profile but photoshop assigned a sRGB profile

[NB, colourmanagement net]

Hi

that's pretty weird behaviour

- but you've still not commented on how you are printing in Photoshop

see my earlier text:

And when printing, ideally use "photoshop manages color" and the relevant paper profile and media setting in your print process. 

is that what you are doing?

Are you seeing a good match between printed photo images and the monitor screen generally?

also, again:

is the display screen calibrated and profiled?

AND when you write: "The photograph had no assigned RGB profile but photoshop assigned a sRGB profile"

Dis you mean "The photograph had no assigned RGB profile but photoshop I have assigned a sRGB profile"

I hope this helps
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[Lobsters15]

Hi Neil,

Many thanks for your help.
It is just this one photograph from the internet that is behaving
strangely. Photographs i have taken with my Panasonic FZ 1000 behave
normally.

The strange photograph has no embedded RGB profile and I tick the box so
Photoshop can assign RGB(1998) to it.

When I print Photoshop manages the colours and the printer profile is set
to Canon IP8700 '

I have a Canon Ip8750 printer MP2




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[D Fosse]

If the image has no embedded profile anything can happen. You have no idea what the correct profile is supposed to be, and randomly assigning Adobe RGB is no help. It's probably not the correct one.

This is why we embed the color profile, to remove this uncertainty.

[NB, colourmanagement net]

Hi

your explnation is not consistent - 

originally you wrote :" when I print out photographs I have taken the yellow prints out orange"

but n ow you write: " It is just this one photograph from the internet that is behaving
strangely. Photographs i have taken with my Panasonic FZ 1000 behave
normally."

Sorry but I can't help further,

I've no idea what's wrong with the single problem image you have that's been downloaded

- but I'd suggest that it's not a Photoshop or printer issue if you can print your own images OK. 

I wish you'd given that bit of detail at the beginning!

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