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Add Rec. 2020 to Photoshop

Explorer ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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I just realized that Rec. 2020 has been added as a selectable working color space to Camera Raw (v.16.3.1)

 

Why not add it to Photoshop also as a selectable working space (not present in Photoshop v. 25.9.0). It is a perfect color space for editing for print as it covers practically all printable or surface colors (Pointer's gamut) and is not overly large as Prophoto RGB for print purposes. 

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Community Expert ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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Rec.2020 is very nearly as large as ProPhoto. It is a video/cinema standard with no particular relevance for print, but it is used in ACR/Lightroom for HDR output.

 

Pointer's gamut (reflected light surface colors) is for all practical purposes completely covered with Adobe RGB, or DCI-P3 which is very similar.

 

For print and standard web purposes, your document profile should always be a standard color space. That means sRGB, Adobe RGB, DCI-P3 or ProPhoto. Generally in the print industry, Adobe RGB is preferred because it translates well into most CMYK processes.

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Explorer ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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Pointers gamut vs. "standard" gamuts: https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/pointers_gamut

Why has the Rec. 2020 been added as a working space to Adobe Camera Raw if it is not a "standard" profile.

Cheers.

Kaj

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Community Expert ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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As I said, it's for HDR to be viewed on HDR displays, which ACR can do (But not yet Photoshop).

 

HDR is not applicable to print.

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Community Expert ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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BTW, I already have no less than three Rec.2020 profiles installed on the system and fully available from Photoshop, although I don't know whether they are installed by Windows or Adobe or someone else. One is labeled gamma 2.2, one gamma 2.4 and one with no gamma indication, which then presumably is the sRGB tone curve (which is the standard specification for Rec.2020).

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Explorer ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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Thank you for your reply.

HDR is not applicable to print. But the coverage of the Pointer's gamut is. Rec. 2020 covers 99.9 % of Pointer's gamut and is therfore one of the best profiles for printing. Adobe RGB and P3 cover significanlty under 90 % of Pointer'sgamut. Adobe RGB falls particulalry short in reds, yellows and blues, P3 falls significantly short in greens and blues.

My Epson printer prints colors outside the Adobe RGB and P3 gamuts. Prophoto RGB covers Pointer's gamut and much more, even colors that are outside what humans can see. Rec. 2020 is much smaller than ProPhoto RGB does not contain imaginary colors and I would prefer it for editing for print. Thee histogram is more meaningfull. 

Hope Rec. 2020 is made available for Photoshop. Now I have to live with editing in Adobe Camera Raw in Rec. 2020 which opens in Photoshop as such, but I have o check the keep the profile, because I can't set Rec. 2020 as a working profile in Photoshop. 

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Sincerely hopes that Adobe takes a close look at the benefits of Rec. 2020 for printing and includes it as a working profile in Photoshop. I believe we will soon see monitors covering Rec. 2020

Cheers

Kaj 

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Community Expert ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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'Why has the Rec. 2020 been added as a working space to Adobe Camera Raw if it is not a "standard" profile.'

 

It is also relevant for anyone producing stills for use in HDR video. Not all ACR/Photoshop users are targeting printed output.

 

Dave

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Explorer ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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Thank you for your reply Dave.

 

I haven't done any HDR in Photoshop. Most of my editng is for print or web.

But, I know that you can merge to HDR in Photoshop. This would be a reason for having Rec. 2020 in Photoshop.

 

Kaj

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Thanks for the idea D Fosse. I dowloded the REC 2020 icc profile from the International Color Consortium's site: https://color.org/chardata/rgb/BT2020.xalter. Unfortunately it is a beta specified for 10 or 12 bit depth not ideal for a 16 file (or HDR).

It would be great to know where Adobe Camera Raw's ICC profiles are in present Windows 11 (23H2 OS Build 22631.3593). Can someone help?

Kaj

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