Adobe should make opt-out to all of gen ai feature for users.

I believe with respect to noise reduction/sharpening, the concern is not traditional noise reduction, but rather tools that are being introduced for upscaling, restoring & "cleaning" images that do use generative models. Some of these features exist in photoshop already, some exist in other software, and it is easy to imagine adobe introducing their own versions of these techniques in the future. There are a host of issues with generative models - from ethical & legal concerns about the source of the training data to clients who require that AI has not been used. Artists want to be able to choose what tools & services to use and not use. Having a way to fully and confidently disable these features is important to many users. 

Noise reduction is not generative AI. And do you realize that many cameras have noise reduction built in? And every RAW processor makes choices about how to demosaic and process a file? If you use film, the choice of stock and developer can dramatically alter the look of a photo. Etc etc.

News organizations should [cursing removed] know that there is no exact and accurate rendering of a scene. And let's not get started on eyewitness reliability or editing decisions. EVERYTHING the news publishes is subject to error and manipulation and bias.

@LeonLondon was there any sort of indication so far that AI features are being "smuggled in" without users knowing? To me it seems literally like the opposite. Remove Tool being one of the first tools fully utilising generative AI and there is AI off option straight away. Which sharpening or denoising tools in PS are using generative AI?

Are developers ok to use AI when they are writing code for your opt-out button or they also should be limited to just typing in manually?

Image manipulation has indeed been around since photography began but if you remove and add content as a press photographer, my employer, like many others, would fire me. While it's clear that using the clone tool is crossing the line, the introduction of AI into regularly used and accepted tools (like sharpening and de-noise) creates uncertainty. Currently, AI is the big thing that everyone's talking about so it's clearly indicated which features AI generative content adjustments, but in later versions it may just be folded in, meaning users won't know what is or isn't using that technology.

It's amazing how many people are getting so wound up about a request for a feature. If you don't care about AI, yay you! However, if you work in an industry that strives to retain integrity in the images produced, being able to permanently opt out of a troublesome feature would be helpful.

It's great to see that the request has been noted by developers and will hopefully be introduced. Thanks.

@jane-e Adding noise to the image adds new pixels there weren't there before, so that's not really something only AI does. You dont mind using Adobe servers for this forum or to login to your account/run apps  but to use their serves for AI is "crossing the ethical line"?

If you created your own AI models for others to use Im sure you would set some (your own) rules around it too and would not let random users just create whatever they wanted

@ExUSA wrote:

Image manipulation and editing has been going on since the beginning of photography.

I remember going to the National Gallery of Art many years before Photoshop's first release and learned that image manipulation started centuries ago when artists had only a brush, canvas, and paint. 😊

@M-H 

Generative AI creates pixels that weren't there and use Adobe's servers. Adobe gets to set their own rules for Generative AI. You can do whatever you want with traditional methods.

Jane

That's exactly what I mean! So it's not like AI suddenly opened the floodgates to unethical manipulation, right?

I imagine how people must have been complaining when clone tool was first added to PS...

Image manipulation and editing has been going on since the beginning of photography.

You can remove stuff just using Clone Tool i.e. people/object from  some press photos (quite famous one with dead birds on top of a bus stop), hide damage on items sold online, alter model skin and body using Liquify, including changing face expressions. You can comp images together and blend it perfectly using masks and adjustment layers to give them totally different meaning.

Worth noting that Adobe generative models have been trained on licensed images and its not something that every AI company can say!

Please explain what "unethical ways" you are speaking about?