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Inspiring
July 22, 2019
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8k Resolution design

  • July 22, 2019
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Hello Forum.

My inquiry today is regarding design and resolution display. First of all I come to terms that in order to see an 8k graphics on your monitor, you'd need a monitor

which can display 8k resolution, same with 4k Resolution, 2k resolution and so on. unfortunately for me right now my monitor is 1920 x 1080.

If I were to set up a photoshop document for graphics to be displayed at 8k resolution, would it have to be 8000 pixels wide (72 resolution) in order for the graphics to look crystal clear? these graphics would not be for print but only for monitors, therefore pixels would be created within Illustrator and photoshop.

Thank you.

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    Bob_Hallam
    Legend
    July 22, 2019

    So the real consideration here is the final destination of your design.  I understand that you plan to do 8k because somewhere there are 8k monitors (?) I suspect at least for now they are not common.  I would suggest that you design using vectors as much as possible to keep file size low.  This means Smart objects and placed linked Illustrator files. 

    Mt question though is why have sucha high resolution goal?  Will the design be for print, or are you "preparing" for the future when everyone can get cheap 8k displays?

    ICC programmer and developer, Photographer, artist and color management expert, Print standards and process expert.
    Inspiring
    July 22, 2019

    Hi bob thanks for your reply.

    this will be a digital design VST(Virtual Studio Technology). yes I do use vectors which I import into PS for detailing. This was not my call, but the clients request, who wants every one of his current designs, to be redesigned for 8k resolution monitors. He wants to future proof his work. So my goal is to design it looking crystal clear as he expressed a complain, that other designers deliver the final product looking all blurry with elements not crisp. I must admit his request today dropped like a bomb on my head, because I have never dealt with such large scale design, and must admit I do feel intimidated, that's why today, I'm inquiring about taking the right direction towards this type of design. (There is no photography involved). Every element seen is done in Illustrator and PS.

    I set up a document at 8000 pixles wide to see how these design elements would look, and everything on my 1920 x 1080 monitor looks like nano particles, I have to keep on zooming in 100% to take a good look at what I'm doing constantly.

    this is an example of a VST

    Image result for VSt design

    JJMack
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    July 22, 2019

    Your example has a 1:1 aspect ratio square  not a wide 16:9 aspect ratio  you need for 1k, 4k and 8k displays. For your example to be all vectors the document would have so many layers I would think Photoshop performance would not be great.  How many layers do you have in Photoshop?

    JJMack
    JJMack
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    July 22, 2019

    The one thing that 8K, 4K and 1K Displays have in common is they all display an image that has a 16:9 Aspect Ratio.  Thefore any Image that has a 16:9 aspect ratio can be scaled to perfectly  fill these display.  These  Displays display three different  amount of pixels.  No matter what size a 1K Display is they display an Images that is 1920 Pixels by 1080 Pixels The different sizes 1K displays have different  size Pixels. They all  display images that are 1920 Pixels x 1080pixels.   4K displays display 4 times as many pixels an Image 3840 pixels by 2160 pixels the different sized 4K displays have different size pixels.  8K Displays display 8 time as many pixels as a 1K Display 7680 Pixels by 4320 Pixels.    

    Raster Image scale down better than the do up. It is easier to discard details you have for an Image than it is creating details you do not have.  So when it comes to displays the only important thing is the number of Pixels they Display. All displays have their single PPI resolution what size Pixels they display.

    If you want the best Image  you need high quality pixels for image detail.  Pixels captured with good optics, using a good digital sensor,  proper lighting and exposure. Thay capture as many or more pixels then the largest Image you want to display.  Most likely more for most cameras do not capture 16:9 Aspect Ratio Image  image will most likely need to be cropped to a 16:9 aspect ratio,  8K  7680x4320=33177600 more that 33MP. More pixels then most camera capture. You may  need to stitch images or buy a new expensive camera. If you want to support the rare 8K display. Never seen one myself.

    JJMack
    Participant
    September 12, 2019
    Sorry to go off topic, I search why Lightroom saves my 8K 3D image in 4K, and this is where I got. You seem knowledgeable, I wonder if you know the answer? It is frustrating to edit 150 image than to see that more than half of them are not 8K anymore.
    D Fosse
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    July 22, 2019

    It's really simple. If you want an image to display 1:1 on any device, you set the document up with the same pixel dimensions. If any given 8K screen is, say, 7680 × 4320 pixels, that's the pixel size of your document. Forget ppi, that's not applicable for screen.

    To design for HD video, the document needs to be 1920 x 1080 pixels.

    Inspiring
    July 22, 2019

    Thanks for your reply.

    Point taken regarding setting up the document with same pixel dimensions.

    I had another thought of making the document half the size of 8k, so my PC would run a bit smoother and not lag, and not to zoom in so much into my monitor since it's only 1920 x 1080 once the Photoshop layers start building up.

    If my graphics were designed at 4k resolution or 2k, if displayed on a 8k monitor would there be a noticeable difference? I've never had the opportunity to see for myself a design as yet, because 8k is fairly new...

    BTW, if designed for video the document would be 1920 x 1080, once displayed on 8k monitor, wouldn't the pixels of the footage/image look blurry because there's not enough pixels to accommodate the required monitor dimensions?