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leosantare
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December 17, 2017
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Application Manager and Creative Cloud?

  • December 17, 2017
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Hello,

I have Photoshop CS5.1. When I search for updates within Photoshop CS5.1, it offers the Application Manger and Camera Raw 6.7. I currently have Camera Raw version 6.3. I am unable to install the Camera Raw 6.7 update without installing the Application Manager also. After I install to two updates, the Application Manager becomes a new start menu program. However, if I open it, it turns into the Creative Cloud. Why does this happen? For this reason, I do not want to install the Application Manager.

I tried installing the Camera Raw 6.7 manual update and this does not install the Application Manager also. This can be a work around for people who do not want the Application Manger installed also. However, when I go to check for updates inside Photoshop CS5.1, is still offers the damn Application Manger. I guess I will just never install the Application Manager or, will I ever have a reason to? I wouldn't really mind installing the Application Manager if it did not turn into CC when I click on it.

I have the most up to date version of Camera Raw (6.7) allowed by my version of Photoshop CS5.1 and the most current version of the DNG Converter, (10.1). Is there any reason for me to update my Camera Raw 6.3 to 6.7 in the first place? I ask this since I don't even own a camera yet. By the time I get one, I doubt Camera Raw 6.7 will support any new cameras out there. For this reason, I don't think it even matters what version of Camera Raw I have. That is since I will have to use the DNG Converter anyways.

Thanks,

Leo

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    Correct answer gener7

    "Since you plan to update to update your product manually and you are not going to trial other products, you can try leaving out the AAM and simply going to Product Updates. If you have further problems, you can do that."

    This does not make any sense to me.

    Can we please start over? Can you please try and answer the 3 questions I have below, directly?

    I'm having trouble deciding on which way I should install Photoshop CS5.1 on my PC. Perhaps, I am overthinking this but wanted to get some feedback before I install the program.

    1) Install Photoshop CS5.1 without any components, and update Camera Raw Manually.

    -This will result in having Bridge CS5.1 and Photoshop CS5.1 in my start menu programs and only Photoshop CS5.1 in my control panel programs.

    -When I check for updates within Photoshop CS5.1, it will display the Application Manager. Why this is, I don't know since there is nothing to update.

    2) Install Photoshop CS5.1 without any components, and update Camera Raw through Photoshop CS5.1, which is Application Manager.

    -This will result in having Application Manager, Bridge CS5.1 and Photoshop CS5.1 in my start menu programs and only Photoshop CS5.1 in my control panel programs.

    -When I check for updates within Photoshop CS5.1, there are none and I'm fully up to date.

    I would then never click on Application Manager in the start menu to prevent it from becoming Creative Cloud.

    3) Install Photoshop CS5.1 without any components, and update Camera Raw through Photoshop CS5.1, which is Application Manager.

    -This will result having Application Manager, Bridge CS5.1 and Photoshop CS5.1 in my start menu programs and only Photoshop CS5.1 in my control panel programs.

    -When I check for updates within Photoshop CS5.1, there are none and I'm fully up to date.

    -Then, click on Application Manager in the start menu and update it to Creative Cloud.

    -Finally, I will have Creative Cloud, Bridge CS5.1 and Photoshop CS5.1 in my start menu programs and Photoshop CS5.1 plus Creative Cloud in my control panel programs.

    I'm sure I speak for many when I say, I don't like having unnecessary programs installed on my PC. Especially, ones I know I will never use. Like I said, I don't even install any the "extra/unnecessary" components with Photoshop CS5.1. I don't think I will ever even use Bridge CS5.1. However, Bridge CS5.1 has to be installed with Photoshop CS5.1.

    1) Which installation option should I choose, what is proper? (I know for sure that I will never become a CC subscriber)

    2) Is Application Manager, (all versions) completely discontinued and officially replaced with Creative Cloud?

    3) If I choose option 3, can I then safely uninstall Creative Cloud without effecting Bridge CS5.1, Photoshop CS5.1 and the Camera Ram 6.7 update? If I do this, will the Application Manager show up in Photoshop CS5.1 when I check for updates?

    Thanks


    1) Install Photoshop CS5.1 without any components, and update Camera Raw Manually.

    -This will result in having Bridge CS5.1 and Photoshop CS5.1 in my start menu programs and only Photoshop CS5.1 in my control panel programs.

    -When I check for updates within Photoshop CS5.1, it will display the Application Manager. Why this is, I don't know since there is nothing to update.

    Best advice I can offer:

    Don't pay attention to the Application Manager then. You can safely ignore update offers and manually put them in yourself.

    Manually download and install your CS5 updates and camera raw from the Product Updates pages that I have linked below.

    Adobe software and product updates

    Then when you are all updated, your job is done. You can move on to using Photoshop.

    1 reply

    gener7
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    gener7Community Expert
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    December 17, 2017

    The point of the Application Manager is that when you go to Help > Updates, it fetches all the Updates you are entitled to. Bridge, Camera Raw and Extension Manager. That saves you from going to the product updates page and figuring out what in that long list applies to your version. If you don't update the AAM, you get the cryptic message, "Updates failed to install."

    The AAM does need to be updated for newer operating systems and this is the one for CS5 Windows:

    Adobe - Adobe Application Manager : For Windows : Adobe Application Manager is the latest.

    Updates have bugfixes and should be put in. Camera Raw 6.7 has more improvements over 6.3.

    I'd recommend staying on top of things.

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      leosantareAuthor
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      December 18, 2017

      "The point of the Application Manager is that when you go to Help > Updates, it fetches all the Updates you are entitled to. Bridge, Camera Raw and Extension Manager. That saves you from going to the product updates page and figuring out what in that long list applies to your version."

      I understand the convenience of Application Manager but, it's it seems to be broken, like I said. The application Manager turns into Creative Cloud. Do you know why this happens?

      "If you don't update the AAM, you get the cryptic message, "Updates failed to install."

      I manually installed the Camera Raw 6.7 update without any problems. I did not get this message. I also do not use or have the Extension Manager installed, and therefore I do not need any updates.

      "Updates have bugfixes and should be put in. Camera Raw 6.7 has more improvements over 6.3."

      I do agree it's better to have a more updated version. I just though, since I'm going to have to use the DNG Converter anyway, why does it matter?

      Thanks,

      Leo

      gener7
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      gener7Community Expert
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      December 18, 2017

      leosantare  wrote

      I understand the convenience of Application Manager but, it's it seems to be broken, like I said. The application Manager turns into Creative Cloud. Do you know why this happens?

      It replaced the old AAM a while back.

      Adobe Application Manager missing after installing update

      If you don't want the Creative Cloud app, you can uninstall it, but since I do not own CS5 I don't know if that will cause any problems, so you assume any risk.

      I manually installed the Camera Raw 6.7 update without any problems. I did not get this message.

      I do agree it's better to have a more updated version. I just though, since I'm going to have to use the DNG Converter anyway, why does it matter?

      You use ACR 6.7 to open and process the converted dng file as well as jpegs and tiffs.

      Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Windows lists the improvements for each version.

      Since you already installed 6.7 it's kind of a moot question. Well, there is 6.7.1 that fixes a minor issue with tiffs, but that depends if you will run tiffs through ACR
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