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February 4, 2014
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Custom brushes access

  • February 4, 2014
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Hi everyone at photoshop.

My name is David and I have been a photoshop user since 1992. I have worked on many entertainment projects.

I have been using photoshop custom brushes as my main tool for creating paintings over these years, and I decided to finally write to you out of frustration for missing a very major much needed improvement. I have a pretty good understanding of how to use brushes and the preset manager so here it goes.

I believe I have the whole adobe painting community behind me when I tell you that we need a serious revamp of the "right click" to open custom brushes window in order to make it manageable and useable. I am currently using approximately thousands of brushes on a given project. Actually since I also use 3D softwares such as zbrush, I can tell you that this asset management situation and issue has already reached other softwares and has been brilliantly solved by these companies.

What we would maybe need is a "right click" opening multiple tabs choices with editable titles in order to decide which tab I want to navigate to (trees, rocks, clouds and so on).

Another idea that was mentioned by my friend Gavriil is a setup very similar to zbrush as to upon right clicking you can use customizable keyboard shortcuts (numbers and letter based) in order to speed up the selection process in a heart beat.

That would probably require a serious revamp of the preset manager, but the benefits would be hours of unnecessary navigating through barely visible brushes saved (and yes I know I can change their scale, but try to do that with a thousand brushes, it becomes instantly impossible to paint).

When painting, speed is of the essence, and selecting a brush should be done in a very intuitive and rapid way. The adobe painting community would love to participate and help you put something together rapidly, and since I own CC and pay a monthly fee I assume it could be an update that could come rapidly without waiting for a whole year.

Please contact me, and I could even put a team of very motivated highly professional painters together to help you with some ideas if needed.

I sincerely hope our voice will be heard, not ignored, and am looking forward to hear from your dev team.

Best regards,

David

www.vyle-art.com

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19 replies

Participant
February 15, 2014

Hello folks,

Here is a workflow I use that works today, it's pretty fast and efficient and needs very little effort. You do need an inexpensive utility called Mystic Thumbs. Currently this solution only works in Windows but I am looking into a similar solution for OSX. Here is a short 8 min video of the process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa5duyA-QYc

Ara

http://www.kermaco.com

Participant
February 5, 2014

Couldn't agree more.

I would add as well the possibility to preview  brushsets before loading them.

Folder editability, drag and drop sorting capabilities.

The preset manager needs to adhere to criteria of usability first. Since it's a professional tool it needs to be well designed and be easy to use.

Will keep an eye on this thread.

Marco.Caradonna

http://www.macalabs.com/

Participant
February 5, 2014

I agree, the current way brushes are organised in Photoshop are not very friendly for the digital painters. I would really like to see a better system. It's one of those things that can make the next update of PS CC a must have!

PECourtejoie
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 5, 2014

Guys, it is a good idea to gather lots of users, but I think it would be more effective to post some broken down ideas/pain points in The feedback site, so that each person can vouch for one or all suggestions.

I love pie menus myself, I'd love to get something like the Wacom ring menus in Photoshop!

Trevor.Dennis
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 5, 2014

OK, someone start a thread in Feedback and post a link here.

I like the idea of flyouts for brush sets so you don't have to Append the set to view its contents.

Participant
February 5, 2014
Trevor.Dennis
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 5, 2014

Lapaev wrote:

May i propose an elgant solution gentelmen?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/5074048/special-dedicated-editing -keyboard-for-photoshop

Blimey, it's huge.  If I was going to put something that big on my desk it would be a Cintiq, but I haven't got room forone of those.  Where do you put your tablet?  Where is all the money coming from for the taxi fares getting from one side of the special keyboard to the other?

Nice idea, and lovely to look at, but it wouldn't work for me.

Participant
February 5, 2014

Blimey indeed.

Participating Frequently
February 5, 2014

Photoshop veteran here too. Not limited to but using ps every day for painting.

I fully concur with David about the bad brush preset management causing frustration on a daily basis.

I like his mockup idea.

A more structured and more emergent and more real-time adaptive and fluid brush preset menu would be a great mercy for painters of our sort.

Thank you

Erik Jakobsson

NishanK-FiaEfm
Participant
February 5, 2014

As a concept artist myself, I do go through the troubles mentioned by David. The suggestions that he has come up with will be most useful in speeding up my workflow. Hope it happens !

Regards,

Nishan Kumar.

Participant
February 5, 2014

I completly back this up! I have also been using Photoshop for at least 10 years and the brush organization is just terrible, there is just no way around it. I think going the tabbed system in the style of Zbrush or other 3d programs is a fantastic idea.

Participant
February 4, 2014

I think they're pretty good ideas, and simply because we've got used to some way of working, doesn't mean we can't have improvements on the software. We are humans and we adapt quite easily
So, I fully support vyle art text.

Trevor.Dennis
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 4, 2014

How do people envisage a revamped brush panel, and / preset manager?

vyle artAuthor
Known Participant
February 4, 2014

Here is a mockup of what it could be, this is obviously very rough but just to get the point accross.

Participant
February 4, 2014

Totally agreed! Presets manager and brush window needs a huge revamp. I support David on this matter.

Thanks!

www.emrahelmasli.com

Trevor.Dennis
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 4, 2014

vyle art wrote:

My name is David and I have been a photoshop user since 1992. Best regards,

Is there a 12 Steps program for that?

I decided to sort my huge list of brushes out quite recently.  I went through each set hoping to delete some of the never used brushes, but found very few that I could do without, but what I did do is rename the sets starting with a meaningful name, followed by just enough information to identify the original source.  So my brushes are now grouped alphabetically with names like Abstract, Trees, Flares, Stars, Fire, Smoke, Explosions, Water etc.

I really wish I'd gone through this simple process years ago, because it is such an obvious thing to do, and has made my sets so much easier and faster to find.

One of my favourite sets is Flare_brushes_by_Karl_S2 which has the perfect naming strategy.  That is probably one of the reasons it is one of my favourites.

I also started a thread here recently about closing the brush panel after selecting the brush or set, and came out of that with a few improvements to my workflow.

  • I open the panel with the lower pen switch, and it is not always in a convenient place because I tend to keep the panel on the large size.  But simply moving the pen to a better location and clicking the bottom switch again, moves the top left corner of the panel to that location.

  • I have historically closed the on screen brush panel by touching the pen down outside the canvas, but I often use big brushes that overspill onto the canvas.  I don't like reaching across the pen with my left hand to hit the enter key, and my sense of mechanical sympathy makes me baulk at double tapping the pen on the chosen brush to close the panel.  I am _trying_ to get used to double tapping on the brush I want, but I have also programed the lowermost Express key on my Intuos 4 to 'Enter', and done the same thing to the bottom left programmable key on my Logitech G110 gaming keyboard.  So I have three methods which I use according to where my hands are and whatever is most convenient.

I will definitely go through and fine tune my brush set names again, but I think I'll be good to go after that, and I wouldn't want to start typing in a search parameter into a revamped brush panel, and there are way too many categories to give them all a tab.  No, I think I am happy with how things are now I have got the hang of it after all these years!