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April 14, 2020
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Determining ICC profile for individual documents generated from another location

  • April 14, 2020
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I have a job generating paintings based on references from an employer. I am one of several people doing this. It seems that the employer's reference images may have a different colour profile than ours - since there are many complaints about our colour not matching.  However, requests for that profile have received no response. A mystery.  As far as we've researched Help topics, there doesn't seem to be a way of determining the employer's ICC profiles for their reference once we've opened them up in 'our' Photoshop. I hope I've clearly explained the problem and hope that there's someone out there who could help with this. Much appreciated.

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NB, colourmanagement
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April 15, 2020

Hi,

It doesn't matter what ICC profile the originator 'uses' as long as it is embedded when the image is saved.

That's colourmanagement 101

If there is no document profile embedded in a file you receive, then you can ask the orgiinator what it should be and 'assign' it in Photoshop - if they can't tell you, then you can try assigning various profiles from the list until the appearnce apprears to be correct on a CALIBRATED AND PROFILED screen - having read that solution, you can appreciate why embedding the priofile at origination is vital.

 

Here is some reading on ICC profiles and how they work for you to provide accurate colour through the digital workflow: https://www.colourmanagement.net/advice/about-icc-colour-profiles/

 

If your question is about comparing on-screen appearance and seeing a poor match, rather than missing document profiles, then the big question is - are all your monitor display systems properly calibrated and profiled?

 

I hope this helps

if so, please "like" my reply and if you're OK now, please mark it as "correct", so that others who have similar issues can see the solution

thanks

neil barstow, colourmanagement.net :: adobe forum volunteer

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Conrad_C
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April 14, 2020

If the profile is embedded in the document, there are two places to display it in Photoshop: The status bar at the bottom, and in the Info panel. In both places the profile is not shown in the default display, so you have to click a menu to change it. In the Info panel, you want to click the panel menu and choose Panel Options.

 

 

If the profile is not embedded (if Photoshop says it’s “untagged”), then you have to either get the employer to send the profile so you can assign it in Photoshop (Edit > Assign Profile), or make an educated guess. If you have to guess and the image is in RGB mode, sRGB is the obvious first thing to try and assign. But if it was taken with a recent Apple device such as an iPhone camera, the profile may be Display P3.

 

You may need to describe more about the colors not matching. Does that mean they look different on your displays vs theirs, or the colors of the reference photos can’t be matched on screen, or something else?

 

Were the reference images snapshots with a camera on automatic, where the camera may have auto-corrected colors until they’re not the original colors? Or did the employer take the reference photos with a color checker chart, properly exposed, so that anyone down the line could color-balance off the chart for consistent reproduction?

PECourtejoie
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April 14, 2020

Hello, you did not state if you have a mac or a pc... 
You can check the images in Bridge as well, the profile would be listed in the metadata placard.

davescm
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April 14, 2020

The profile should be embedded in the document. Provided you check 'Preserve embedded profiles' in colour settings then it should open with that profile and you can read it at the bottom left of the PS window.

Dave