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Faux Italic option disabled (greyed out) - as of Photoshop CC 19.1.13

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May 28, 2018
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The Faux Bold and Faux Italic options in the Character panel are now disabled using a font which it's always worked for before. Additionally when I open an old PSD with that in place, it wants to update the text layer - whereupon the italics disappear.

Why is this? Why can't I find any documentation around this? How can I fix this?

AEC JPM

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Hi.
This is an old ticket, but the top rated one for this issue when I encountered the same problem.

But I found a solution i believe.
I started a new Text-object with an Open Font (Heebo Thin) and wanted to put some italic on selected words in the text, and it was greyed out like yours.

I tested different fonts on copies of the text-object and was able to slant the selected words with the other font.

And when I changed back to Heebo again the italics remained.

Funnily the faux italic tools was no longer greyed out even when I returned to the original text fising it with the same method.

But, again this is in the far future from your original 2018 query, and I have version 25.9.1 now.
But the greyed out tool still stumped me at first still, so some things maybe haven't changed?
I hope my workaround will help others who find this thread.

Cheers!
Jim

jane-e

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The OP asked about an OpenType Variable font. Is Heebo Thin also an OpenType Variable font?

If so, see this message from Adobe Employee Douglas Waterfall about Variable Fonts and Fake (Faux) Italic. I agree with him that fake bold and fake italic should be removed altogether. Until they are, they should be avoided.

"Faux does not work with Open Type Variable fonts. When I talk to the team about this, they suggest that the whole faux functionality should be ripped out and buried in a hole. So they are not going to extend this feature in any way."

— Douglas Waterfall

Jane

AEC JPM

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Heebo is Open Type, yes.
Well, that is your opinion. But it does not hurt anyone if you can slant them. But not being able to do it makes life difficult to others.
I need to use it when I edit some documents with longer textmasses, and so I believe many others do.
When it is possible, why limit it? Can you predict what every other user needs to do with PS?

Make the applications flexible. Or Adobe will end up on the scrap pile of design history.

P

peterr73755651

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I didn't figure this was a bug report, but a general question as to why this would be the case.

This screen recording shows the font, behaviour, and Character panel settings.

https://kierenj.tinytake.com/sf/MjYzNTYzN183OTIxODAx

Trevor.Dennis

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Kieren, Bahnschrift is not a font I use, but I am finding the same as you, in that the Faux Italic option is greyed out with it. I don't even recognise the font despite it being available in my copy of CC2018 (19.1.3) and I don't have any earlier versions of Photoshop installed to try it in. My gut tells me that it might be to do with the new variable fonts.

If it was important, then I guess you could Free Transform > Skew providing it was just one line, and I am guessing that is how you might have achieved the italic effect in your screen shot.

If you are sure it used to work, then bring it up in the Feedback forum where the likes of Jeff Tranberry will see it and might comment. We can also include the typekit profile in this thread, which will cause them to get a notification, and they may be able to shed some light.

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Trevor.Dennis

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Hi Jane

Yes it is greyed out , as it appears to be for any of the variable fonts (or at least the ones I just tried)

Dave

Guys, I thought about this thread when responding to Pete Green in the 'Forward slash breaks variable font' thread.

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2495347

I mentioned back up this thread that I thought it was related to the new variable fonts, but I didn't check the font list, which does indeed show that Bahnschrift is one of the Variable fonts...

...albeit with less options than some other Variable Fonts, but it does have very fine control over weight in the properties panel.

The Variable fonts are so useful, that I'd like to see a filter for them in the Classes drop-down, or even an icon along with the Typekit, Favourites and Similar filter icons. I've added it as a suggestion on the Feedback site.