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How to change Default Save As color profile

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March 16, 2019
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I scan with an Epson scanner. In Photoshop, my working RGB and CMYK profiles are not Epson, they are set to the destination profiles. Yet whenever I "save as" (RGB, tif), the "color" is set to Epson, and the "working profile" is grayed out.

I have reset the export color space to uncheck "convert to sRGB".

With no document open I have set the Color Settings Color Management Policies to: RGB /convert to working profile; CMYK: convert to working profile. Yet still, every time I go to save, it's the Epson profile that is checked in "color". How do I fix this?

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isa_orianthi

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Hi Fred,

Have you tried changing how you scan and save from the Epson scanner (scan preferences, perhaps)? It sounds like the scanner is assigning a profile, and disallowing color management (but I might be completely off base).

I found this article (from Epson) that seems to touch on the color preferences/management, and how to change them when saving your scans: Scanning and Printing Color Accurate Images

NOTE: The tutorial uses Adobe Elements, but I wonder if it could be modified for Photoshop. OR find a Photoshop plugin for your scanner to scan directly to PS...

rob day

Community Expert

I scan with an Epson scanner. In Photoshop, my working RGB and CMYK profiles are not Epson, they are set to the destination profiles.

Just to be clear are you scanning to a saved file and then opening the file into Photoshop, or is the scanner software scanning directly into Photoshop via a plugin?

fredl11600511Author

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Scanning and saving. The scanner is actually connected to another pc, so directly scanning though a plug-in isn't possible.

rob day

Community Expert

Have you tried converting a file with an embedded profile that isn't the scanner profile? Maybe the profile is corrupted somehow?

If you assign AdobeRGB, save, close, and reopen with your Working RGB set to sRGB and the Policy set to Convert, does the conversion happen?

T

Test Screen Name

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I wonder if Epson sRGB and sRGB IEC61966-2.1 are analysed and found to be colorimetrically identical. Not converting the colours in that case will be the best thing to do, but still hope the tag was changed.

D Fosse

Community Expert

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Test+Screen+Name wrote
I wonder if Epson sRGB and sRGB IEC61966-2.1 are analysed and found to be colorimetrically identical. Not converting the colours in that case will be the best thing to do, but still hope the tag was changed.

Even if they were, the normal conversion should still happen. Even if no numbers actually change and only the names are different.

There are many varieties of sRGB, and IEC61966-2.1 is only one of many. Some of them differ in black point handling, others in more technical matters.

It's probably time for a preferences reset.

fredl11600511Author

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Thanks. Now to find the safest way to reset prefs--I just never know what I'm going to lose (my shortucts? my workspace?)--that isn't spelled out in the help info.

T

Test Screen Name

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Well, we've moved the problem from Save to Open. I don't know if that helps, but I will leave it to others to suggest why Open is not doing what you (and I) would expect.

fredl11600511Author

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Any movement is good! thanks.

D Fosse

Community Expert

Convert to Working RGB should indeed convert when opening the file. I've no idea why it doesn't. Maybe corrupt preferences - but first let's be absolutely certain.

First of all, verify the profile it opens with. Set the notification area bottom left of the image window. Post a screenshot:

Also post a screenshot of your color settings dialog.

Normally I would never recommend "convert to working". But in this case it makes sense - working with non-standard profiles in high volumes.

T

Test Screen Name

Legend

Ooops, no, I misposted. I spent too long in the Acrobat forum.

Now, though, I think the answer is pretty close to what I'd say, but I'll rewrite it. Sorry!

The Epson scanner will embedding its own profile (as it should), and I'm guessing Photoshop's default is to simply preserve colour and profile. In a colour managed workflow, it's the best choice. But it may not be if the result file goes out into the world.

HOWEVER, your settings should result in Photoshop converting to the working profile, and hence no trace of the Epson profile should be left. I think you could usefully check the profile actually used for the open document, to see if the problem is actually on open. Simplest way is to select "Document profile" in the info display at bottom left of the window. What do you see?

fredl11600511Author

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The Epson sRGB profile.

My Color Settings are set to the working spaces I want, and color management policies are set to convert to working, so why doesn't that do the conversion upon "open"? Do I have to make it "ask upon open" in order to make the conversion (that seems dumb)?

T

Test Screen Name

Legend

It's just a guess, but maybe the Epson is embedding its own profile (as it should), and Acrobat's default is to simply preserve colour and profile. In a colour managed workflow, it's the best choice. But it may not be if the PDF goes out into the world.

fredl11600511Author

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Perhaps I mis-posted? This concerns "save as" for Photoshop. No PDFs involved; only TIFs.

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