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berndg88460683
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July 22, 2018
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photoshop jpeg colors different from windows10 photo app

  • July 22, 2018
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Hi,

I have a AdobeRGB pictures from my Sony A6300 in jpeg Format. When I visually compare (same monitor) this jpeg with the standard windows 10 photo viewer and photoshop the colors are slightly different (the standard windows 10 photo viewer is a bit more saturated). I opened that file with the embedded color profile (AdobeRGB 1998) and Colorproof ist OFF. I also tried to switch the photoshop color profiles but no profile looks the same than the windows 10 photo viewer.

For referenz I opened that picture in Gimp (again with the embedded AdobeRBG profile). In gimp it looks the same than the windows photo viewer.

Why is photoshop showing different colors?

Greetings

Bernd

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    Participant
    August 29, 2024
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    Hi,

     

    I have a AdobeRGB pictures from my Sony A6300 in jpeg Format. When I visually compare (same monitor) this jpeg with the standard windows 10 photo viewer and photoshop the colors are slightly different (the standard windows 10 photo viewer is a bit more saturated). I opened that file with the embedded color profile (AdobeRGB 1998) and Colorproof ist OFF. I also tried to switch the photoshop color profiles but no profile looks the same than the windows 10 photo viewer.

    For referenz I opened that picture in Gimp (again with the embedded AdobeRBG profile). In gimp it looks the same than the windows photo viewer.

     

    Why is photoshop showing different colors?

     

    Greetings

     

    Bernd


    By @berndg88460683

    Hi Bernd,

    The color differences you're seeing between Photoshop and Windows 10 Photo Viewer are due to how each handles color profiles:

    1. Photoshop: It strictly follows the embedded AdobeRGB profile for accurate color management. Check Photoshop's color settings (Edit > Color Settings) to ensure it's set up correctly.

    2. Windows 10 Photo Viewer: This viewer has basic color management and may not fully adhere to embedded profiles, which can cause colors to appear differently.

    3. GIMP: If GIMP shows colors similarly to the Windows Photo Viewer, it might be handling the AdobeRGB profile in a similar way.

    To troubleshoot:

    • Verify Photoshop's color settings and ensure it's set to AdobeRGB.
    • Convert the image to sRGB in Photoshop to see if that aligns colors with the Windows Photo Viewer.
    • Check your monitor calibration as it can also affect color accuracy.

    Hope this helps!

    Best, HomTanks

    D Fosse
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    August 29, 2024

    @Hom_Tanks3517 

    This is an old thread and the basic premise of the thread is no longer applicable.

     

    Windows "Photos" became fully color managed shortly after I wrote that post above in 2021. It will now always match Photoshop (as long as there is an embedded profile in the file).

     

    I'm uncertain whether this is a genuine bona fide post or a ChatGPT generated one. We're getting a lot of those these days, and they generally look like this. But if the former, it should serve as a reminder to not reply to old threads without re-checking the facts. 

    attilal22739386
    Participant
    April 4, 2021

    Hi,

    I have a same problem. Open JPG with windows photos application or using a JPG picture as a desktop image has a different saturation. That is ok. But how can I process a picture in Photoshop or Lightroom to looks correct in windows photos or at the windows background? Do I have to set picture undersaturated at PS? Thank you for your advice. (I have tested the sRGB & adobe profiles also. But did not help)

    Legend
    April 4, 2021

    No, you should NEVER try to distort the colours in Photoshop to make the colours look right. It will only work for your own computer, so you will be making things worse for everyone.  Quick tips:

    1. If you have a wide gamut monitor, expect colours in all other apps to be wrong, always.

    2. Work in sRGB -AND- embed sRGB profile, to have the best chance of matching colours on a normal monitor.

    If working in sRGB -AND- embedding sRGB profile does not seem to work for you, you are probably missing a step or have a wide gamut monitor. 

    attilal22739386
    Participant
    April 4, 2021

    Thank you very much for your quick response. I understood that the JPG pictures look different in other displays. I agree because it depends on the settings, types etc. of the displays. But it looks different in my own display. (I have Dell UP2716D monitor). Canon raw file developed at Lightroom and export to JPG with sRGB profile., Open it with photos and looks awful. Exported from PS with ebended sRGB color profile -> open it with photos looks oversaturated also. (see attached picture: Left lightroom, Right photos (exported as JPG with sRGB profile)

    The windows handling the pictures in a different way. That is ok. But how to prepare a picture to looks correct for example as a windows background? If I share the picture most of the user are using windows built in photos for it.

    Thank you for your time.

    NB, colourmanagement
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    July 9, 2020

    tfp99

    its been well explained here in this thread.

    Photoshop uses colour management properly and can show you image content accurately 

    An application without colour management cannot give you accurate colour, if it ever does it’s a coincidence.

    Windows Photos is no use for serious image viewing because of that

     

    Working with programs without colour management capability and saving files for viewing handheld devices, the best you can do is

    1: be sure your computer display is accurate, ideally by using a sensor such as X-Rite i1 Display Pro to calibrate and profile it. Now Photoshop will show you exactly the visual content of your images.

    2: convert your image files to sRGB when saving for non colour managed apps (like Windows Photos) or for handheld devices and make a rule to save with the ICC profile embedded.

     

    That’s about all you can do, I'm afraid.

    Most computer screens are, by default close to sRGB (but its not going to be exact).

    Phones etc are said to moving towards some level of colour management and the use of the P3 icc profile / colour space, but its not yet become widespread. 

     

    I hope this helps

    if so, please "like" my reply and if you're OK now, please mark it as "correct", so that others who have similar issues can see the solution

    thanks

    neil barstow, colourmanagement.net :: adobe forum volunteer

    [please do not use the reply button on a message within the thread, only use the blue reply button at the top of the page, this maintains the original thread title and chronological order of posts]

     

    tf99
    Known Participant
    December 4, 2020

    The issue was the Win 10 ICC profile management, find  and solve it for now

    thank you!

    tf99
    Known Participant
    July 9, 2020

    Hi!

    I have the exactly same problem on 2 notebooks, ASUS N53 and new Xiaomi. The image difference is extra on Xiaomi! And not found the solution for now  

    Terri Stevens
    Legend
    July 22, 2018

    Photoshop is a color managed application and understands the Adobe RGB color space. Most computer applications are not color managed and misinterpret colors that come from color spaces other than the bog standard sRGB space. Adobe RGB is a bigger space than sRGB but they are quite close. You would find if you were using ProPhoto RGB then color shifts in the Windows PhotoViewer would be even more noticeable. If you want your images to look in other applications the way they do in Photoshop it's fine to use Adobe RGB in Photoshop or Lightroom, but you must export the image not just save it and select 'convert to sRGB' and 'embed profile'. The image will then look exactly the same inside or outside Photoshop, even if you open the exported image in Photoshop again it will look the same as the original even though the color profile is different.

    Terri

    berndg88460683
    Participant
    July 22, 2018

    Hi Terri,

    thank for your fast response!

    I followed your instructions and exported the original adobe file with sRGB conversion on and the embed profile option.

    When I then compare this exported file with Photoshop and the Windows photo viewer they look different. I double checked that the profile in the exported file is really sRGB.

    Curious is: When I compare the original Adobe RGB file with the new exported sRGB file in the Windows photo  viewer they look exactly the same.

    Bernd

    berndg88460683
    Participant
    July 22, 2018

    I just opened a png file (out of the www) in Photoshop and in the Windows Photo Viewer. The do NOT look the same. Again photo viewer look is a bit more saturated. So I think it has nothing to do with the profile.

    My guess: Photoshop uses its own method for displaying images content and there is no way to use the operation system method.

    Bernd