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Refine Edge Problem

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October 2, 2017
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I have a problem with Photoshop CC refine edge on both my laptop and desktop running Windows 10. After doing a quick selection of the subject I wish to extract, I select Refine Edge. When using Refine Edge it washes out the edges of the image that I have extracted.

I would appreciate assistance in resolving this matter.

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Correct answer richardp9442338

I masked that using the following steps

1. I opened Select and mask and made a selection of the bird using the quick select tool

2. I switched to the refine edge brush and zoomed to 100% . I set the brush to 10 pixels, 1 % spacing and 100% hardness. In edge options I used radius 0px and left smart radius unchecked

I then brushed around the soft edges only - I top of the head the tips of the wings and the tail. Keeping the brush half on the wanted and half on the unwanted areas.

I did not use the refine edge brush on the "sharp" edges such as the top of the wings and beak at all

3. I set the output settings as below and clicked OK. Note I did not check decontaminate colors.

4. I added an empty layer above the masked bird and set its blending mode to color. I then Alt clicked on the boundary so that the layer is clipped to the layer below (as indicated by the small down arrow)

5. I selected a soft brush and picked up colour from the bird and brushed just around the edges. To pick up colour Alt click with the brush

6. If you need to tidy any tiny areas of mask just brush with black or white directly on the mask.

I have added a white color fill below just to show the result:

Click to view at 100%

I hope that helps you

Dave

Many thanks Dave for your comprehensive and quick response.

davescm

Community Expert

Hi Richard

Are you able to post a screenshot of the selection you are trying to make and also let us know the version of Photoshop you are using (Refine edge inside Select and Mask in the recent CC versions works differently to the Refine edge in older versions). If we can see the image we can try and advise you better

Refine edge can be very useful for fine edges things like grass, hair, fur etc. However it does depend on targeting the refinement just at those areas and not using it on already clear and smooth edges.

Dave

richardp9442338Author

Inspiring

Hi Dave

Thanks for your quick response.

I have attached images which I hope will assist you in identifying the problem.

I have provided the version details below.

Regards

Richard

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Vanishing Point 18.1.1 - from the file “VanishingPoint.8bf”

Variance 18.1.1 (2017.1.1 20170425.r.252 2017/04/25:23:00:00 CL 1113967) - from the file “statistics.8ba”

Virtual Reality Modeling Language | VRML 18.1.1 (2017.1.1 20170425.r.252 2017/04/25:23:00:00 CL 1113967) - from the file “U3D.8bi”

Water Paper 18.1.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”

Watercolor 18.1.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”

Wave 18.1.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”

Wavefront|OBJ 18.1.1 (2017.1.1 20170425.r.252 2017/04/25:23:00:00 CL 1113967) - from the file “U3D.8bi”

WIA Support 18.1.1 (2017.1.1 20170425.r.252 2017/04/25:23:00:00 CL 1113967) - from the file “WIASupport.8li”

Wind 18.1.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”

Wireless Bitmap 18.1.1 (2017.1.1 20170425.r.252 2017/04/25:23:00:00 CL 1113967) - from the file “WBMP.8bi”

ZigZag 18.1.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”

Optional and third party plug-ins:

Analog Efex Pro 2 2.0.12.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Analog Efex Pro 2\Analog Efex Pro 2 (64-Bit)\Analog Efex Pro 2.8bf”

BackgroundFilter 2.2.21.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Dfine 2\Dfine 2 (64-Bit)\Background.8bf”

Color Efex Pro 4 4.3.24.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Color Efex Pro 4\Color Efex Pro 4 (64-Bit)\Color Efex Pro 4.8bf”

Dfine 2 2.2.21.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Dfine 2\Dfine 2 (64-Bit)\Dfine2.8bf”

FineStructuresFilter 2.2.21.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Dfine 2\Dfine 2 (64-Bit)\FineStructures.8bf”

HDR Efex Pro 2 2.2.24.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\HDR Efex Pro 2\HDR Efex Pro 2 (64-Bit)\HDR Efex Pro 2.8bf”

HotPixelsFilter 2.2.21.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Dfine 2\Dfine 2 (64-Bit)\HotPixels.8bf”

Merge to HDR Efex Pro 2 2.2.24.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\HDR Efex Pro 2\HDR Efex Pro 2 (64-Bit)\HDR Efex Pro 2.8bf”

Nik Collection Selective Tool 2.1.28 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2017\Plug-ins\Google\Selective Tool\SelectivePalette.8li”

ShadowsFilter 2.2.21.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Dfine 2\Dfine 2 (64-Bit)\Shadows.8bf”

Sharpener Pro 3: (1) RAW Presharpener 3.1.21.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Sharpener Pro 3\Sharpener Pro 3 (64-Bit)\SHP3RPS.8bf”

Sharpener Pro 3: (2) Output Sharpener 3.1.21.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Sharpener Pro 3\Sharpener Pro 3 (64-Bit)\SHP3OS.8bf”

Silver Efex Pro 2 2.2.24.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Silver Efex Pro 2\Silver Efex Pro 2 (64-Bit)\Silver Efex Pro 2.8bf”

SkinFilter 2.2.21.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Dfine 2\Dfine 2 (64-Bit)\Skin.8bf”

SkyFilter 2.2.21.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Dfine 2\Dfine 2 (64-Bit)\Sky.8bf”

StrongNoiseFilter 2.2.21.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Dfine 2\Dfine 2 (64-Bit)\StrongNoise.8bf”

Viveza 2 2.1.21.12 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Google\Nik Collection\Viveza 2\Viveza 2 (64-Bit)\Viveza2.8bf”

Duplicate and Disabled plug-ins: NONE

Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE

Extensions:

com.adobe.inapp.purchase 2.10.56 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_2_10_56\purchase.html”

New Document 2.0.1 - from the file “C:\Users\Richard\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CCX_CMDN_EXTENSION_2_0_1_001\fnft.html”

Libraries 2.10.56 - from the file “C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_2_10_56\index.html”

com.adobe.experimentation.extension 2.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2017\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.experimentation.extension\index.html”

Start 2.0.1 - from the file “C:\Users\Richard\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CCX_START_EXTENSION_2_0_1_044\index.html”

Adobe Color Themes 6.1.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2017\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.KulerPanel.html\index.html”

Export As 3.0.8 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2017\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\PSPanel\dialog.html”

Device Preview 1.3.2 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.previewHD\PSPanel\panel.html”

Export As 3.0.8 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2017\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\PSPanel\dialog.html”

com.adobe.preview.loader 1.3.2 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.previewHD\PSLoader\loader.html”

Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

davescm

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I can see from the above you are using the current version of Photoshop.

There were no images attached though. You have to access the forum online , not via Email, to attach an image. Use the button at the top of the posting box

Dave

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