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October 30, 2018
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Trifold size (18cmx18cm)

  • October 30, 2018
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Hello,

I know that for this kind of project it would be better to use InDesign, but I only have Photoshop, so I have to use this program.

I have to make a trifold roll with a final size of 18cmx18cm.

I have never made a document of this type for printing, but I know that the measurements on each page are slightly different from each other (the cover is bigger?)

Moreover, the cutting margins are enough of 3mm?

How much space will the folding take up, considering using a thick cardboard?

Thanks to anyone who will help me (I understand better the measures in cm than in inches)

Arianna

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Correct answer Norman Sanders

Assuming the folder is being printed on cover stock, the usual pages 4/5 are narrower in width by 1/8". (The. best  confirmation of this adjustment is to get a sample of the stock and test that allowance.) Cover stock may also require scoring. For the smoothest fold the grain of the paper should run in the direction of the fold, not across the flat sheet. Note that beyond the trim size you should provide a 1/8" bleed allowance as indicated by the red line in the diagram above. Images and tints running to the edge of the trim should extend to the bleed line. Note also that the work should be prepared head-to-head of avoid an error in planning the brochure and accommodating the 4/5 narrower panel. Black trim and fold marks. and a red bleed line should appear on the work.

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Norman Sanders
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Legend
October 30, 2018

Assuming the folder is being printed on cover stock, the usual pages 4/5 are narrower in width by 1/8". (The. best  confirmation of this adjustment is to get a sample of the stock and test that allowance.) Cover stock may also require scoring. For the smoothest fold the grain of the paper should run in the direction of the fold, not across the flat sheet. Note that beyond the trim size you should provide a 1/8" bleed allowance as indicated by the red line in the diagram above. Images and tints running to the edge of the trim should extend to the bleed line. Note also that the work should be prepared head-to-head of avoid an error in planning the brochure and accommodating the 4/5 narrower panel. Black trim and fold marks. and a red bleed line should appear on the work.

Participant
October 30, 2018

Thank you very much, also to Semaphoric​! This is the answer I was waiting for!

Only another thing: when folded, pages 2 and 5 they should be placed side by side exactly, since they contain the same image (half on one side and half on the other), which is seen whole when folded.

I'm afraid that by making the 4/5 narrower, I would see the white that stays underneath, and it's not nice.

So I was wondering if it was possible to leave pages 3, 4, 5 and 6 of 18cm, and instead increase page 1 (therefore also page 2). And in this case, of how many millimeters?

I hope I explained myself,

Arianna

Norman Sanders
Legend
October 30, 2018

The usual procedure when you have an image that splits across 2/5 is to extend the page 2 part of the image a strong 1/8" into page 3 -- in other words, beyond the fold.  Also, printing (ink density) on both sides of the sheet must be held to very tight tolerance and, from a folding machine standpoint, it is best when diagonals in the image not occur in the split. (In reality, sometimes that cannot be avoided. That is an additional reason scoring is advised.)  

Semaphoric
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 30, 2018

I would suggest making a document 18cm x 53.7cm. The part that gets folded inside would be 17.7 cm wide, 3mm less that the other two, so that it would fit comfortably.

    

This layout would be for the inside pages (when opened up). For the back, you would use the same layout, only rotate it 180°, putting the narrow page on the left.

You might have to adjust this on advice from your printer, about the allowance need for the folds.

JJMack
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 30, 2018

In your picture of the brochures  I see two brochure folders two different ways and the one standing I see has printing on both surfaces of the printed material. Your diagrams show thee images on a single side if the printed material.

If it is the same printed material folded two different ways it would be a six page brochure printed duplex.  You would to know how the printer handles duplex printing. How the printer prints the second side of the material. Does the print flip the materials or is it done as two different print job. Where you print three images on one side than three images on the second side. As long as the pages have print margins there no need to have spacing between images the folds will be in the print margins. If it were single images the would be like a Playboy centerfold a trifold damsel

JJMack
Participant
October 30, 2018

Yes, of course the trifold has an external and an internal part, I haven't done the inside yet, because I wanted to figure out the outside before.

Thanks for your answer, but I hope someone else will add some help too.

Arianna

JJMack
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 30, 2018

You just need to lay out the three images side by side for the size of the print material. You brochure  physical size. Fit them to size but do not distort them fitting them in. Constrain the sizing the Image Aspect ratio need  to be close to the print area aspect ratio.

If you are not doing the printing yourself ask the print service what they want from you.

JJMack
JJMack
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 30, 2018

arianna.fesani  wrote

I have to make a trifold roll with a final size of 18cmx18cm.

I have never made a document of this type for printing, but I know that the measurements on each page are slightly different from each other (the cover is bigger?)

Moreover, the cutting margins are enough of 3mm?

How much space will the folding take up, considering using a thick cardboard?

Thanks to anyone who will help me (I understand better the measures in cm than in inches)

You seem to want tp print different size images on thick cardboard of some type that will be folded in three and have final a folded square size of 18cm x 18cm.   Cm and Inches are just unit of measurement Photoshop can handle either  it all come down Print Pixel size.  The size the image pixels will be printed with.  When the print pixel resolution you want to print with you can easily calculate how may pixels your image need to have to print the size you want.

The meaning of  "Moreover, the cutting margins are enough of 3mm" is lost on me I do not understand  that statement.

How much space will the folding take up, considering using a thick cardboard?  I'm sure that would depend on the  cardboard material you will be using.  How it can be scored and compress to fold the way you want.   The three Images will be on one surface of the cardboard.  How do you want the cardboard  folded.  You state the cover.  A trifold is not a book, more a card or brochure  How the folding is done would determine which image is the cover and what orientation pages need to be so they can be read the way you want it to unfold up/down left/right. If you print duplex you can have six pages in your trifold. How would you like them read. If you want six pages you would need to know how the printer prints duplex to know how to layout the page images in you Photoshop document.

JJMack
Participant
October 30, 2018

Hello and thank you for your answer.

I try to better explain what I need..

I would like to have a final product like this you here:

For now I tried to set the grids like this:

Searching on Google I found this: "When using a tri fold brochure template, keep in mind that each individual panel is slightly different in width, with the "cover" panel being the largest (widest), to accommodate the other two folds. It allows for the other folds to tuck up neatly, ensuring a crisp finished product"

Now I would like to know, how exactly is the size of each panel? is it ok to make the first panel (from the left) 18cm, second panel 18cm and "cover" panel 18,16cm? Or 18,16cm is still too small?

Arianna