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October 3, 2009
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Beware - Elements (8.0) Auto Analyzer runs on startup

  • October 3, 2009
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I've just discovered the CPU-intensive program "Elements Auto Analyzer" runs automatically when I turn on my PC.  I only realised when I saw all four cores running at 25% or so when nothing should have been happening at all.

I'm not sure whether there's a way to prevent that happening other than to hit it with a hammer, but using "Autoruns" from www.sysinternals.com you can untick it from the "Logon" tab.

I really hate programs that swamp my PC without asking me.  I have no desire at all for "Elements Auto Analyzer" to run under any circumstances.

I'm still finding that the main program (adobe premiere elements) itself never closes when I exit and I have to kill it using the task manager.  I shall probably write my own utility to prevent that happening and if others are having the same problem I'll upload it somewhere.

Grrrr!!

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    Correct answer A_T__Romano

    Grebnul

    Let us give another look for that AutoAnalyzer feature in Premiere Elements 8

    1. Click on the Organizer Tab (deep blue) in the Premiere Elements workspace

    2. In the row below that Organizer Tab is a black tab named Organizer (that is the Elements Organizer Tab) click on that

    3. With the Elements Organizer open, did you go to the Edit Menu/Preferences/and go down the list to AutoAnalyzer.Options

    4. There should be an AutoAnalyzer Options listing that you click on to bring up its dialog where you disable the feature and options.

    Also, at the bottom of the Elements Organizer workspace is a row of icons. The one next to the mailbox looking one is an AutoAnalyzer icon. If you click on that you can also bring up the AutoAnalyzer Options dialog that you made appear as above going the Edit Menu/Preferences/AutoAnalyzer Options route.

    When you are finished disabling this feature, go to the File Menu/Exit to get back to the Premiere Elements 8 workspace.

    Please let me know if that worked for you.

    ATR

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    Another_James
    Participant
    September 27, 2015

    No, that has not fixed the problem.

    I have removed the codec packs and Quicktime and installed the correct version of Quicktime that you suggest.  I disabled background rendering but do not know how to disable auto-analyse.

    I also get this message when Elements boots.  I have to cick about 20 times before I can get to the menu.

    Inspiring
    September 28, 2015

    another james

    I am not sure how you got into this 2009 thread - maybe the thread title led you here.

    Disabling of the AutoAnalzyer feature for Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 includes

    1. In the Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 Timeline workspace, have the Organize header (Blue Tab) selected.

    2. Go to the Organizer Tab in the row below that Organize header, and click on it to open the Elements Organizer workspace.

    3. In the Elements Organizer workspace, go to Edit Menu/Preferences/AutoAnalyzer Options

    4. Disable all the options under AutoAnalzyer Options

    5. Then in the Elements Organizer workspace, go to File Menu/Exit to get back to the Premiere Elements workspace from the Elements Organizer workspace.

    That automatic Background Rendering and the AutoAnalzyer features were two major grabbers of system resources in 8.0/8.0.1 and needed disabling otherwise they brought the program down. The 8.0.1 Update was supposed to disable the automatic Background Rendering which had been set as default by the Adobe programmers. But, always good to check Edit Menu/Preferences/General to make sure that it is disabled.

    Did you look for a computer SD slot that was minus the blank insert when the SD slot was not in use?

    Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 comes with two installation discs, one for the program and one for content. Do you have those installation discs?

    Then...do one or the other

    1. Uninstall all content that came from the Content installation disc and then reinstall the Content

    or

    2. Uninstall the whole program, making sure that program and content are uninstalled...often there is a spot in the uninstall for you to enable to make sure that the content is uninstalled along with the program....then do the ccleaner run through (regular and registry parts) CCleaner - Download, reinstall with antivirus and firewalls disabled. Then install the 8.0.1, and disable AutoAnalzyer options.

    Please consider.

    Thanks.

    ATR

    Participant
    May 24, 2012

    So, the autoanalyzer has got many of you bogged down...myself included...and you want to shut it off and prevent it from starting with your computer again.  Here's 2 ways to do so: 

    #1: Best way: You can disable it by going to Adobe Organizer->Edit->Preferences->Auto-Analyzer Options...->Uncheck "Run Aanlyzer on Start Up"  (This will take care of the "bog" at start up.  You may want to also uncheck the box above it titled "Analyze All Media in Catalog Automatically" which disables the auto-analyzer from running when you launch Elements Organizer, but then it won't automatically tag your photos or splice your video at start up or when you launch Elements Organizer...this may be something you want it to do or you may not...I'll explain later in post and some additional settings you may want to know about that relate to the auto analyzer function).

    #2:  Change your Windows startup menu.  To do so, in Windows 7, you can click Start, type "msconfig" in search box and hit enter.  When the "System Configuration" window pops up, you need to select the "Startup" Tab at the top, then under the column "Startup Item" you need to find "Elements Auto Analyzer" and uncheck the box.  Then click "Apply" in the bottom right corner of the Window.  Congrats!  It is now disabled from automatically running when you boot up your computer, but with a catch.  If you EVER launch Elements Organizer again, and you didn't change the setting in the programs preferences(see option #1 above), then the program will reset itself in the startup menu and you will be back to square one where it is running at the boot of Windows every time again.

    Before I explain any further, there are a couple things you need to understand about this program, how it works, and how it can help you sort out 'flawed' pics and videos.

    First off, Elements Organizer is working as an application that can bring your photos into one place and potentially help you sort them...if you want it to(hence the basic idea for the "auto-analyzer".  Your pictures are wherever you saved them on your computer.  Elements Organizer DOES NOT alter those files...that's what the "Edit" option is for.  It is your choice to "save" or "save as" if you edit.

    "Watch Folders..." (settings found under "file"-> "Watch Folders...") designates actual places(folders)on your PC you want Elements Organizer to look for photos/videos if more are added, scanned, ect.  This is where it looks for your pics/vids automatically.  So if you have your 'photo folders' listed here, you will automatically be able to see them in Elements Organizer.  So, for example, if you create a new folder on the desktop and then dump new photos from your camera into them, they won't automatically show up in Elements Organizer until you add the new folder to your 'Watch" list.  You can manually add them to your viewable collection in Organizer by going to "File"->"Get Photos and Videos"->"From Files and Folders"->then select the location of the photos(in this example, the new folder on the desktop).  It is worth noting, that when you are in the "Watch Folders" options, you will likely want it to add the photos automatically to Organizer, if so, then make sure that you have the appropriate bubble selected at the bottom of screen that says, "Automatically Add Files to Organizer".  You can, however, just have Organizer notify you, instead, that you have new files added in your 'watched' folders.  My recommendation for simplicity sake is to set things to automatically add the files to Organizer.

    Catalogs-Think of this as your photo books...basically this is where you can designate groups of photos that you want to be together for whatever reason so you can find relevant photos later.  Elements Organizer automatically creates one catalog...the default catalog that shows everything.  You CAN have pictures in more than one catalog.  Here is an example:  Imagine you go on vacation to Las Vegas and take 2000 photos on your trip, but some of the photos are from when you went to visit the Hoover Dam one day, and the Grand Canyon on another day.  You could logically create a catalog of photos labeled "Vegas Trip" and have all 2000 pictures in that one catalog, and then in 2 other catalogs labeled "Grand Canyon" and "Hoover Dam", you catalog your pictures from each place respectively.  You may only have 300 of your 2000 total pictures that were taken at the Grand Canyon, and 200 of the 2000 total pics at the Hoover Dam.  This would allow you to have an easy way to pull up only the Grand Canyon pics if that is all you want to show off to your family, make a slideshow from, back up, burn a dvd, create a collage, ect.  The same pics that are in the "Grand Canyon" catalog or the "Hoover Dam" catalog, are also in the 'Vegas Trip" catalog.  Note: this DOES NOT copy your photos on your hard drive or put them in duplicate spots consuming extra space, but instead, pulls them from their locations on the hard drive and allows you to group them together for whatever relevance you deem fit.  This is an especially handy feature for photographers to keep track of wedding shoots for different clients, senior pictures, graduations, concerts, ect.

    So back to the topic of the 'Analyzer'...if you let it do its thing, it will put smart tags on your pictures based on the filters you have checked in your 'auto-analyzer options" that you want the "analyzer" to evaluate.  Those things include audio, brightness and contrast, motion, shake, blur, face, object motion, and even people's faces.  The cruddy part is that it is looking at your photos for you, determining if they are sharp, blurred, ect and allowing you a way to get rid of the 'bad' pics, but also find the sharp in focue pics you may want to use for a project.  So, ultimately, the auto-analyzer is potentially going to help you and the workflow of your photo projects.  Example:  If you wanted to pull out the "Grand Canyon" catalog and quickly make a dvd of it, you could easily filter down to the sharp infocus shots that are high contrast by selecting the appropriate smart tages

    I hope this helps clear up the confusion.

    Participant
    January 10, 2012

      I have this same thing happening in Elements 9.0.  Apparently, Adobe doesn't care.  It was running amok with the processor and heat it up by 20C.  I haven’t been able to run down the problems with my system until now.  Since I turned off the process my system is way faster and my CPU temp is staying down by the 20C.

    Known Participant
    January 11, 2012

      Apparently, Adobe doesn't care. 

    Ha!

    Hi OzPeter!  Great to see you're still around!

    Paz

    April 19, 2011

    I used 10 minutes just to start task manager and take this photo after a windows startup. I turn it off for now, Picasa do this much faster. It is possible to check a box in order to make it run when the computer is idle, but I WASNT IDLE for sure. It made me idle.

    Participant
    May 10, 2010

    To turn off Auto Analyser at Windows start up simply do the following :

    1) "Search" within widows for : "msconfig" (or use the  "Run" command and type "msconfig")

    2) Type "continue" when prompted

    3) This will open the system configurator for Windows

    4) Select the "Start up " tab

    5) Remove the tick against "Elements Auto Analyser"  and click "Apply"

    You may see other unnecessary applications that are being started automatically, but go carefully in disabling applications that may be necessary to your system!

    On your next re-boot any de-selected applications will not automatically start up

    Participant
    August 4, 2010

    I have been beating my head against the desk with this problem for a few months now.

    Oddly enough, I have been killing it through msconfig, disabling it as a startup option, and the darn thing keeps coming back!

    I tried the disabling option in PrE8 just prior to this post, hoping that is a final solution to the hassle.

    The bad thing is for what ever reason my older quad-core devotes enough resources to the analyzer, that it takes two or three minutes just for Task Manager to come up. So unless I remember to go into TM right at startup, I can hardly even disable it once it gets rolling. I only have maybe 5 or 6 processes at startup I even allow, so its not like other things are hogging CPU resources.

    Thanks for all the great posts, I am hoping that disabling it in-program will put an end to this headache. I am a little embarassed I did not track that option down sooner.

    Shame on you Adobe...

    Inspiring
    August 13, 2010

    Dave,

    Welcome to the forum.

    I think that most users of any NLE would rank stability as the number 1 request. Bells are nice. Whistles are nice. Still, if a program is not stable, those extra "features" are pretty much meaningless.

    I am one of those people. First, I want total stability from the program, and design my systems to try and provide the most stable platform for the programs. I feel that this is important, and is too often overlooked, as many assume that the same e-machine that they use to check e-mail and surf the Internet, will also edit video smoothly. Once one has built/bought a proper editing machine, then it is up to the software company to provide a rock-solid program.

    For some of those "bells-n-whistles," I can just use AfterEffects, or another program. My NLE does not need to do everything, but I want everything that it does do, to be done well and with stability.

    You make good points, and thanks for commenting,

    Hunt


    Hunt

    Just saw the latest series of this thread's posts in my email Inbox and had some thoughts that I wanted to see if you agreed with.

    It has been my impression that right after the release of a new version of Premiere Elements, the new version gets bashed and fond remembrances emerge about the version that it is replacing. I got that impression with Premiere Elements 4 going to Premiere Elements 7 as well as with Premiere Elements 7 going to Premiere Elements 8.

    In light of the past year dealing with Premiere Elements 8 issues (my own and others), I wonder if the same will hold true going from Premiere Elements 8 to Premiere Elements 9. Sad to say, I will laugh in shock if that turns out to be the case.

    ATR

    December 3, 2009

    I am new to this and have not used this forum but need to as the problem of

    autoanalyzer eating up my hard drive activity is serious.  I tried

    Elements Organizer>Organizer>  Edit/Prefs

    but fouind NO AUTOANALYZER options!!  I have the Student

    Version is this not available??  How can I control this beast?

    Thankyou anyone with time and knowledge to help me.

    A_T__RomanoCorrect answer
    Inspiring
    December 3, 2009

    Grebnul

    Let us give another look for that AutoAnalyzer feature in Premiere Elements 8

    1. Click on the Organizer Tab (deep blue) in the Premiere Elements workspace

    2. In the row below that Organizer Tab is a black tab named Organizer (that is the Elements Organizer Tab) click on that

    3. With the Elements Organizer open, did you go to the Edit Menu/Preferences/and go down the list to AutoAnalyzer.Options

    4. There should be an AutoAnalyzer Options listing that you click on to bring up its dialog where you disable the feature and options.

    Also, at the bottom of the Elements Organizer workspace is a row of icons. The one next to the mailbox looking one is an AutoAnalyzer icon. If you click on that you can also bring up the AutoAnalyzer Options dialog that you made appear as above going the Edit Menu/Preferences/AutoAnalyzer Options route.

    When you are finished disabling this feature, go to the File Menu/Exit to get back to the Premiere Elements 8 workspace.

    Please let me know if that worked for you.

    ATR

    December 3, 2009

    Dear ATR,

    A very kind and fast response from you for which I am extremely grateful.  I am quite computer literate so feel a little silly when I assure you having made the first 2 steps I attempt the third

    [3. With the Elements Organizer open, did you go to the Edit Menu/Preferences/and go down the list to AutoAnalyzer.Options]

    but there is no such choice in my pull down from Preferences.  On my version and it is only 4 days old so it is Version 8, there are no Autoanalizer options, nor is "The one next to the mailbox looking one is an AutoAnalyzer icon" there an icon here.  Is it because I have the Student edition? Today I went to my desktop and Ctrl-Alt-Del and ended the process of AutoAnalyzer and the drive is much quieter now.  I imagine should I wish to use Elements 8 today I will have to re-Start.  But this seems a bit bothersome to do on a daily basis.

    Thankyou again for your help but I am still at sea!

    Paul

    Participating Frequently
    October 30, 2009

    Hello,

    I also find the AutoAnalyzer startup thing a severe miss by Adobe. I see it eating up 60 to 80 MB at startup for 10 to 15 minutes every time I boot. I already wait long enough for my disk light to stop flashing before starting my day. Thanks for the instructions on how to disable it.

    I must not be the target for this feature because I don't understand the value at all. When it comes to entry level video, Adobe would do well to OPTIMIZE its existing feature set. Unfortunately, the message that "it now works they way it should have originally" is not one any marketer relishes.

    One example: my 4 minute video project takes about 10 minutes to load every time I open PrE4. As I've posted before, I have 2GB of RAM and a dual core processor. A little weak for PrE 8 perhaps but not for version 4.

    How someone thought that getting in the middle of EVERY boot cycle of a Windows machine was a good thing for an entry-level editing program (i.e. it should not expect to be installed on a dedicated editing station) completely baffles me.

    Steve

    October 29, 2009

    Thanks everyone for your observations and comments in this thread ... it helped me resolve this problem.  Now I have a new question ... before I found this solution, Elements Auto Analyzer ran for several days and consumed several GB of hard drive space generating who knows what (one of these threads postulated it took video files and turned them into snipets).  Where are all of these files stored?  I have been trying to find them (particularly those video file snipets) but I have not found them.  Nor could I find them by opening Elements.  Anyone know where this junk was stored so I can delete it and get my hard drive space back?

    nealeh
    Inspiring
    December 3, 2009

    craigdpeterson wrote:

    Elements Auto Analyzer ran for several days and consumed several GB of hard drive space generating who knows what (one of these threads postulated it took video files and turned them into snipets).  Where are all of these files stored?  I have been trying to find them (particularly those video file snipets) but I have not found them.  Nor could I find them by opening Elements.  Anyone know where this junk was stored so I can delete it and get my hard drive space back?

    The very best (for me at least) utility to find what eats up my disk space is SpaceSniffer. You would be amazed at what files PRE tucks away in obscure places, let alone all kinds of other spacehogging stuff from applications no longer used (or thought you had removed).

    Try it.

    Cheers,
    --
    Neale
    Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children

    December 3, 2009

    Thanks ... I will look into it.

    the_wine_snob
    Inspiring
    October 3, 2009

    Ozpeter,

    I've read the entire thread (to date), but am doing my reply here - your initial post.

    Personally, I find this scary. As with you, I do not want modules going rogue on me. I go so far as to turn OFF any/all auto-update "features" in every program, that I install. I also turn OFF, when possible, the "look for updates and await your input." I will update any/everything at my leisure, not some timer in some program. I lost an entire new installation on a brand new workstation, because Logitec Set-Point decided to update during the installation of an NLE. When it did this, I lost my entire OS, plus all programs. It even killed Ghost, and System Restore. It killed my LAN and rendered one of my NIC connections unusable. It cost me a new MoBo, a complete low-level reformat of the system HDD and a week of lost installations! Guess which program will NEVER be on any computer, even if I use Logitec devices.

    Now, from your and ATR's comments, I am still not certain what this "utiltiy" does, but it seems to analyze AV Assets and then attempt to automatically do something like Scene Detection. Is that correct?

    I cannot imagine what Adobe was thinking with this. I have to admit that I do not use Organize/Organizer in my PrE 4 installation, so there could be things, even back then, that I am just unaware of. I use Bridge (from my CS2 Production Studio Premium) instead. Maybe I am just in the dark on what Organize/Organizer did, and certainly do not know what the newer versions might now do.

    Still, and it's not yet hear Halloween, I am scared - very scared. Maybe I should be glad that I only have PrE 4. All it did was kill CS2 Production Stuido and all of its apps. on installation. A Repair Install fixed those. Gonna' keep what I've got, and keep reading of your trials and tribulations.

    Thank you for reporting. You and ATR are doing a great service to all PrE users.

    Hunt

    October 3, 2009

    Hi Hunt,

    This 'Organizer' thing is a new feature in PE8 - it's one of the main new features in fact, but personally I don't use that sort of thing.  I'm probably becoming an aged reactionary but I'm not keen on the trend for software to hold your hand and do everything for you like it or not.  I prefer to take charge, and when I make mistakes that perhaps the program would not have made, I learn from them and thereby improve myself.  If features like this have to be included, at least make it necessary to activate them rather than having them switched on by default (and as far as I'm aware, I never turned this stuff on).

    I have this mental picture of PCs worldwide being brought to their knees by AVCHD Background Rendering, Auto Analyzing, and the program not terminating on exit, all happening at once..

    the_wine_snob
    Inspiring
    October 3, 2009
    I have this mental picture of PCs worldwide being brought to their knees by AVCHD Background Rendering, Auto Analyzing, and the program not terminating on exit, all happening at once..

    Some decades ago, Ray Bradbury wrote a short story, Dial F for Frankenstein. I do not know if it was published in a compilation, and forget exactly where I read it, Playboy maybe? There were a few similarities, to what you write. Now, this was before computers, that did not occupy anything less than a whole room (no desktops then), and he focused on the international telephone system. Still, some parallels.

    Hunt

    PS - I am with you. I think that this is one of the main reasons that I am much more comfortable in PrPro, than I am in PrE. Or, maybe I am just a "control freak!"

    Inspiring
    October 3, 2009

    Ozpeter

    I have not gotten a chance to look at the issue that you present and try it, but does disabling the feature at the Organizer level (see AutoAnalyzer tab at bottom of Elements Organizer) have any impact on what you are experiencing? I will try looking at this as soon as I can.

    I had to disable that AutoAnlyzer feature in Premiere Elements 8 because it kept automatically spliting my video into clips when I did not want that to happen. However, you can still right click you media in the Organizer and select Run AutoAnalyzer.

    For quite some time (before Premiere Elements 8), I have been running my WIndows XP SP3 with all the Start Up programs off, except Microsoft Services.

    ATR

    October 3, 2009

    I'm not seeing the tab you refer to ("AutoAnalyzer tab at bottom of Elements Organizer") - maybe having now turned it off in the options (by giving rubbish answers to the compulsory questions) that tab has gone.

    Inspiring
    October 3, 2009

    Ozpeter

    The tab to which I referred is at the bottom of the Elements Organizer window in the gray bar just above the Start bar. The row starts with "My Catalog and continues with "...items dated..." and follows with an icon for signing into account and the AutoAnalyzer tab.

    BUT, forget about that. Instead, Elements Organizer, Edit Menu/Preferences/AutoAnalyzer Options. That AutoAnalyzer Options dialog has more options than just On and Off.

    ATR