PE 7 - Mod files from JVC camera importing with errors.

[_Stuart_Fern_]

Hi everyone,
I was having enormous difficulties with Premiere Elements 4 so I bought version 7 as it listed mod files as a supported type. Well at least PE 7 is actually seeing the mod files and easily importing them. Unfortunately each file ends up with its own unique error - mostly green pixels showing up in the image randomly or even faces or images from other files suddenly appearing in the middle of a different file.
My project will only go for about 35 mins but it is being created from 3.5 hours of footage. Is anyone else having these sort of issues? Is it just to do with the dreaded mod file, or have other people experienced it in other situations?
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Stuart

[the_wine_snob]

Let's hope other with the same problem find the post.

I agree completely. If they do a search, they should, but who knows. If they do not, at least some of us can link to this post to help them.

The question remains though - why do the green pixels appear in the first place?

This would be a question for the JVC fora. Obviously, there is something in the internal conversion from their GOP .MOD format, to full I-frame, that does not work perfectly.

I feel that we will have even more problems, come the Holidays, and new equipment with new CODEC's and formats. Who knows?

Again, thanks,

Hunt

[A_T__Romano]

Hunt,

Just some quick thoughts....

a. Have any JVC/Premiere Elements 8 users been using the Premiere Elements 8 project preset (new project dialog) = NTSC/"Hard Disk Flash Memory Camcorders". It is described as "For video files produced by High Definition 1920 x 1080i camcorders like JVC GZ-HD7". Is this preset more or less prone to importing with errors?

When I went to check out what the JVC GZ-HD7 was, I found that it was a JVC camcorder that could record Full 1920 x 1080i to its 60 GB hard drive. What really blew me away were some notes about JVC formats. I knew about the .mod files, but .tod files to cope with??  According to the note, typically the .mod file is for standard definition video and .tod is used for HD definition video. Has any of this wave of JVC errors involved these .tod files as well as .mod files?

My method of choice for converting the .mod files to DV AVI in order to get the JVC video with the .mod file extension into Premiere Elements is MPEG Streamclip. I will have to look into how MPEG Streamclip does or does not handle .tod files. However I do see a lot of .mod/.tod converters being promoted. Maybe we could get some feedback on do they really work and at what cost to the workflow and the personal funds.

ATR

[the_wine_snob]

ATR,

I do not know what exact JVC cameras are being used. Going back some months, I did an article on .MOD & .TOD files, and linked to a conversion program site, provided by a frequent contributor to the Pr/PrPro fora, Ann Bens.

As I have never used any flavor of JVC, I have zero personal experience with any version. I am not sure if Ann has used any either, but she did publish a link for conversions, so I linked to that in hopes that I could help others in the future.

Other than passing on info and links that might be helpful, I know nothing, but that is not uncommon for me...

Hunt

[the_wine_snob]

Here is the ARTICLE with the link to Ann's links.

Hunt

[soundwel]

To Stuart Fern:

I also have the same problem with you.Finally I find the MOD Converter.You should have a try with it.There are so many functions for me to use.It is really powerful.

Thanks a lot.

[the_wine_snob]

Soundwel,

Did this conversion utility yield files that do not have the reported green pixels?

Here's hoping,

Hunt

[chaosdsmFL]

I had meant to post in this thread, but I had posted here instead (last 2 posts): http://forums.adobe.com/thread/390350   important point:  no more errors... all it took for me was PE 8. I never used the full version of PE 7, only used the 30 day trial version, but I had the same random green pixels with it on my PC that others are reporting here.  I actually tried it on 2 different PC's cause someone on another forum said that a hardware error with my PC could be causing the random green pixels, even though it only occured with PE 7, same results on 2nd PC.

Anyway I decided to try PE 8 before buying Cyberlink's Power Director 8.  It took 2 days, but I finally figured out how to properly handle my Everio Gz-MC500 .mod files to output as 1920x1080, & quality is as good as I could expect in a low light situation.  I haven't tried a daylight scene yet which this particular camcorder was superb at when new.

Copied from other thread:  Again this is for PE 8.

1> After importing the video clip under the apropriate 1440x1080i setting for a hard drive/flash media based recorder, drag the clip to the timeline.

2> Right click on the clip in timeline & select "Show Properties"

3> click the "Motion" drop down arrow to open the motion options.

4> Uncheck the box marked "Uniform Scale"

5> click the "100.0" to the far Right of the heading "Scale Width" & enter 131.5 & hit enter.

Here's the result:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPGmMicMyUg

[the_wine_snob]

Thank you for posting. Sounds good for JVC users, who go with PrE 8.

Appreciated,

Hunt

[Video_CJC]

This message is for the Wine-snob, if you remember all the issues I

had with my JVC, the distortion during paning, do you think Adobe

addressed that field order issue in version 8? Thanks, Carl

Ps. Are you into wine making? I know this is off the subject but I

wanted to ask. I could use some advice there too.

Sent from my iPod

[A_T__Romano]

Video CJC

Pending Hunt's answer to your question to him....

Have you downloaded the free 30 day tryout of Premiere Elements 8 to see how it works with your specific JVC video, editing, and in your specific computer environment?

I do not have the history that you have with Hunt. I suspect the answer to your question is NO, but I would need to read through this whole thread which I have not so far and see the details of what was going on in your case.

Whenever I see MOD files/JVC, I think MPEG Streamclip workaround.

ATR

[Video_CJC]

ATE, thanks for the reply. I have not tried the 30 day tryout. That's

a good idea, I just never thought about it. If I have the time I'll

try it tonight.

I just don't understand why companys can't come up with a standard. It

seems like everybody has to have their own propritary stuff.

Thanks, Carl

Sent from my iPod

[chaosdsmFL]

Video_CJC - Definitely give the PE 8 trial a go, I'm pretty sure you'll like what you see, but no sense buying it only to find out it doesn't work for you.

.mod is a defined standard, but it seems like JVC did some work with it to make it work seamlessly with Cyberlink's Power DVD, Power Producer, Power Director software.  While great in theory since most users would probably just stick with the Cyberlink suite that came with the camera, those of us who want other features that aren't found in Cyberlink's offerings are left on our own cause it deviates enough from the standard to cause issues...   I'm just happy that Premier Elements has finally evolved to the point that I can ditch that Cyberlink suite CD that came with my JVC Everio.  Even though there are a couple of extra steps to get the desired resolution & aspect ratio, the finished product, features, & rendering speed*, in PE8 more than make up for that minor inconvenience!

*about 12% faster rendering on my system using the full registered version of Premier Elements 8 Vs Power Director 8 trial version with 4.13GB video clip straight out of the camcorder.

quick specs:

Athlon X2 4400+ 2.2GHz dual core socket 939 CPU

2GB PC-4400 DDR RAM

Windows XP Pro w/SP3

[Video_CJC]

Thanks for the info, I downloaded PE8 but I think it's corupt. When I

go to open "new project" it crashes and an Adobe crash report page

comes up. I'll call them and see if I can download it again. Thanks

again for your help.

Sent from my iPod

[danfeiyan18]

Software that may help you a lot on video conversions is MOD to DVD Converter for Mac, which can easily convert JVC .MOD files to DVD on Mac without losing quality.

[nancy_johnson86]

I guess it is someying related to the JVC camera. So first check it out.