Stuttering images when editing

[Raoul25644528g3id]

During editing 2,7k clips in mp4 format I get stuttering images (mix of the previous images with black) on the timeline.

And when I remove the clip from the timeline or from projectelements or add the media again from my files on the  computer, the problem remains.

I'am using Premiere Elements 2022 on a AMD Ryzen 7 laptop with 32 GB RAM and Windows 11.

Can you help me to solve this annoying problem.

[Bill Sprague]

Do you have a GPU?  If so, what is it?  And, is the driver up to date?  What is the source of the video clips?  What are the project settings and how did they get set?  Does rendering the preview help?

[Raoul25644528g3id]

Sorry for my late answer.

My computer has a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU and the driver has been updated.

The source of the video clips is a DJI Pocket 3 camera.

For the project settings see attachement.

Rendering does not solve the problem. 

[Steve Grisetti]

What is the resolution and frame rate of your video? What camera or camcorder did you shoot this video with?

[Raoul25644528g3id]

Sorry for my late answer.

The resolution is 2,7K and the frame rate is 30.

The video was shoot with a DJI Pocket 3 camera.

The problem did not occur before when I used a Sony 1080 HD camera, but I suppose that my system is sufficiently powerfull to edit 2,7K (or 4K) video. 

[Steve Grisetti]

It's possible the drone is shooting video with a non-standard codec.

Open your drone's video in the free download MediaInfo. In MediaInfo, set View to Text and then copy the report it generates and post it to this forum. With this additional information we'll better be able to advise you how to proceed.

[Raoul25644528g3id]

Video is not shooted with a drone but with a small handheld vlogging camera
from DJI (known from his drones). But perhaps they use the same codec for
both.

And the problem does not occur with all the clips but with some clips .

In any case I follow your suggestion and will share the report.

[Raoul25644528g3id]

Hereby the report

General
Complete name : C:\Users\raoul\OneDrive\Afbeeldingen\Raw material\Ibiza_2024\2024 06 20\DJI_20240620150940_0619_D.MP4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/mp41)
File size : 20.9 MiB
Duration : 4 s 304 ms
Overall bit rate : 40.6 Mb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2024-06-20 13:09:41
Tagged date : UTC 2024-06-20 13:09:41
Writing application : DJI OsmoPocket3
Cover : Yes
snal : (Binary)
tnal : (Binary)

Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5@High
Codec ID : hvc1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 4 s 304 ms
Bit rate : 35.4 Mb/s
Width : 2 688 pixels
Height : 1 512 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Original frame rate : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.291
Stream size : 18.2 MiB (87%)
Encoded date : UTC 2024-06-20 13:09:41
Tagged date : UTC 2024-06-20 13:09:41
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : hvcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 4 s 288 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 318 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 166 KiB (1%)
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
Encoded date : UTC 2024-06-20 13:09:41
Tagged date : UTC 2024-06-20 13:09:41

Other #1
ID : 6
Type : Time code
Format : QuickTime TC
Duration : 4 s 304 ms
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Time code of first frame : 07:03:04;17
Time code of last frame : 07:03:08;25
Time code, stripped : Yes
Default : No
Alternate group : 2
Encoded date : UTC 2024-06-20 13:09:41
Tagged date : UTC 2024-06-20 13:09:41

Other #2
Type : meta
Duration : 4 s 304 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Default : No

Other #3
Type : meta
Duration : 4 s 304 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Default : No

[Steve Grisetti]

This is a non-standard video size -- 2688x1512 -- and using the HEVC codec, and that's why Premiere Elements is struggling with it.

I'm not sure what to suggest. Even converting the video with Handbrake won't make it a more standard resolution, like 1920x1080. You may want to try a different video editor. Premiere Elements is just not going to be able to work with this video. Can you set your camcorder up to record 1920x1080 at H.264 rather than H.265?

Does anyone else have a suggestion?

[Raoul25644528g3id]

I add two other clips, the first shooted in 4k resolution, the second shooted in 1080HD.
Does this change anything as the video compression is still HEVC?

I use 2,7K because I prefer the better quality then 1080 but with less file size than 4K.
In the meantime I found out that I can set the video compression at H.264 in the settings of the camera.

I'am a bit surprised that Adobe Premiere struggles with H.265, which is a more advanced format than H.264. And knowing professionals are using DJI drones and camera's, and probably shoot also in HEVC, how are they editing their footage ?

4K
General
Complete name : E:\DCIM\DJI_001\DJI_20240703162335_0913_D.MP4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/mp41)
File size : 57.1 MiB
Duration : 5 s 572 ms
Overall bit rate : 86.0 Mb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:23:36
Tagged date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:23:36
Writing application : DJI OsmoPocket3
Cover : Yes
snal : (Binary)
tnal : (Binary)

Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5@High
Codec ID : hvc1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 5 s 572 ms
Bit rate : 80.7 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Original frame rate : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.325
Stream size : 53.6 MiB (94%)
Encoded date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:23:36
Tagged date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:23:36
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : hvcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 5 s 547 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 317 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 215 KiB (0%)
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
Encoded date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:23:36
Tagged date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:23:36

Other #1
ID : 6
Type : Time code
Format : QuickTime TC
Duration : 5 s 572 ms
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Time code of first frame : 08:10:48;09
Time code of last frame : 08:10:53;25
Time code, stripped : Yes
Default : No
Alternate group : 2
Encoded date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:23:36
Tagged date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:23:36

Other #2
Type : meta
Duration : 5 s 572 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Default : No

Other #3
Type : meta
Duration : 5 s 572 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Default : No



1080 HD
General
Complete name : E:\DCIM\DJI_001\DJI_20240703162403_0914_D.MP4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/mp41)
File size : 21.7 MiB
Duration : 5 s 305 ms
Overall bit rate : 34.3 Mb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:24:04
Tagged date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:24:04
Writing application : DJI OsmoPocket3
Cover : Yes
snal : (Binary)
tnal : (Binary)

Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5@High
Codec ID : hvc1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 5 s 305 ms
Bit rate : 28.9 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Original frame rate : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.466
Stream size : 18.3 MiB (84%)
Encoded date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:24:04
Tagged date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:24:04
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : hvcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 5 s 291 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 317 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 205 KiB (1%)
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
Encoded date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:24:04
Tagged date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:24:04

Other #1
ID : 6
Type : Time code
Format : QuickTime TC
Duration : 5 s 305 ms
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Time code of first frame : 08:11:16;05
Time code of last frame : 08:11:21;13
Time code, stripped : Yes
Default : No
Alternate group : 2
Encoded date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:24:04
Tagged date : UTC 2024-07-03 14:24:04

Other #2
Type : meta
Duration : 5 s 305 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Default : No

Other #3
Type : meta
Duration : 5 s 305 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Default : No

[Bill Sprague]

I've been shooting with a DJI Pocket 3 for a few months.  Before that it was a Pocket 2.  They have always been set to 4K, 30fps and H.264.  I have had no issues with editing in Premiere Elements, Premiere Pro or a couple others video editing programs. 

H.265 was, and maybe still is, a good idea for making smaller sized files.  The problem is that the licensing agreements have blocked progress.  We continue with H.264 and larger video files.  

Is there a reason for 2.7K?  For most projects, HD fills the screen with pixels.  If you are going to do post processing pans, zooms or keyframes, the extra pixels of 4K will be more useful.  

Switch your camera setting to H.264 and skip 2.7K.   Your editing work will improve. 

[Raoul25644528g3id]

Thank you for the good advice Steve.
I will switch to H.264 and shoot in HD and 4K for zooms, pans, etc,....

I watch the edited video's always on a 55 inch TV. Therefore I thought that
shooting in 2,7K would give better image quality, even when I export the
final video from Adobe in HD (what I usually do to facilitate sharing) .

[Raoul25644528g3id]

Also thanks to Bill.

[Bill Sprague]

Thank you for the good advice Steve.I will switch to H.264 and shoot in HD and 4K for zooms, pans, etc,....I watch the edited video's always on a 55 inch TV. Therefore I thought thatshooting in 2,7K would give better image quality, even when I export thefinal video from Adobe in HD (what I usually do to facilitate sharing) .
By @Raoul25644528g3id

Have you tried outputing both a 4K version and an HD version for the TV?  When I've done that, I've been surprised because I don't see much difference.  It may be that 55 inch is not big enough to see the fine detail.

[Raoul25644528g3id]

No not yet. I will try it one of these days to see if there is any difference.