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Why remove Blu ray authering from PE 2018

Forum|Forum|8 years ago
October 7, 2017
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Why has Adobe decided to remove Blu ray authoring/burning from PE 2018? - why would I or thousands of other want to commit 1080p @ 35Mbps to a DVD that may depending on length of video only return a poor copy at around 6 to 8 mbps - whom ever the numb nut is that decided this was a good business move has just put

PE to the bottom of the league for prosumer video editing, I for one will not be purchasing PE 2018 and may even cancel my Photoshop CC account, totally ludicrous to say the least, that any company goes RETRO - if Adobe want PE to be for the little Boys and Girls to post their little silly videos on line then make a decent prosumer package for the enthusiast who don't want the bloated Premiere pro cc or indeed the expense of it.

One disgusted and long time fan of Adobe (but no longer)

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MassNerd

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I can't believe BD support has been removed from Premiere Elements!!

I just finished working on a 25+ hour project in 2018 only to find out I can't burn it to Bluray. After finding this thread, I went and reinstalled Premier Elements 14, but of course I can't open the 2018 project file in that version.

I've owned 6 different versions of Elements over the past decade, I guess I'm done.

Some of you dismiss it as no big deal, but here's my use case: A yearly bluray of family videos. Usually 1-2 hours of viewing time with scenes/chapter you can quickly skip to. Something nice to have on the shelf and something easy to hand to relatives, rather than asking them to download a 10GB lower quality MP4 file.

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jammin109

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I too am very disappointed that Adobe removed Blu Ray support. They also dropped AVCHD support which I found very handy for burning HD video on inexpensive DVD discs.

I doubt that this take away was planned (i.e., specifications for PE 2018 probably didn’t state removal of the feature) but rather an expedient solution when the deadline to freeze development arrived and the feature didn’t work (or perhaps they didn’t have time to test it.)

Regardless of the business arguments (few folks have Blu Ray players, fewer have burners, media more expensive, etc.), Blu Ray discs are still supported by RedBox, NetFlix , et al. And, in my case, they are the only way for us very amateur video folks to share HD video with grandparents.

I will report this to Adobe and beg that the feature be reinstated.

Ann Bens

Community Expert

This all has to do with Adobe not supporting Dolby or also known as ac3 anymore.

Bluray uses ac3 so does AVCHD disks

Adobe Creative Cloud apps use native OS support for Dolby

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brianm46086932

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I am guessing BD will not be restored due to the Dolby license.

See post 8.

Premiere Elements users were no the only ones caught by surprise.

Absolutely agree with the sentiments above. I just finally gave up on Pinnacle software because of its bugs and freezes (over at least a decade) and was lured to Premier Elements by the promo material and the reputation for reliability. I find it is so much better than Pinnacle in many respects, and have now re-done a large project that Pinnacle 21 just couldn't reliably complete. But WOW - no Blu Ray support in Premier Elements, which is what I have to have. This is just RIDICULOUS AND UNDER-HANDED! There should be a large label on the product to say "WILL NOT AUTHOR OR BURN BLU RAY DISCS"- but instead it implies that it can do so. Sure it can send an output file to a blu ray disk as though it is a flash drive, but what is the point of that? Why would you? No means of creating menus and chapters etc and will not play on a Blu Ray machine.

As for the option of starting with HD video and finishing up with SD on a DVD, why the hell would you do such a ridiculous thing, and end up with output that is only 25% of the original bit rate.

Pinnacle took away the Blu Ray option a couple of versions back, but because of user pressure, they made it a purchase option for $10, which I paid. Later versions again they made it available inclusively.

ADOBE, you should be absolutely ashamed and offer refunds to all who come forward for it. It is not fit for purpose if a video editor designed to handle HD cannot output it to conventional media for same. Shame.

Brian Muir

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Bill Sprague

Community Expert

This is a user to user forum. To my knowledge, nobody that makes marketing decisions participates in, or even reads, the posts here.

I've personally abandon Blu-Rays because I get better results using either thumb drives or putting my completed projects on Vimeo. Too many in my audience watches on cell phones, tablets or computers. Too many others still have DVD players and can't play Blu-Rays.

From Adobe's perspective it may be that there are so few Blu-Ray burners in existence, but I certainly don't know.

Sorry you are abandoning your investment in what you've learned.

Bill

StaxbyAuthor

Participant

To my knowledge you cannot make a menu and put your project on a stick, my audience of which I have many prefers to watch my videos on blu ray on a large format TV, not everybody wants crap downloads on toy phones or even via other means, those who cannot play blu rays on their blu ray players should either update the players firmware or if the machine is so out of date replace it with today’s technology.

Sent from my iPad

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Bill Sprague

Community Expert

With due respect, I have moved on to today's technology. I now shoot 4K, put it on Vimeo, a thumbdrive or both depending on the target viewer.

I have a BD burner and tried that for awhile. My target viewers typically lost them after a play or two. Vimeo keeps everything I leave there. It is rewarding when a relative goes to my collection to see something current and re-discovers something older.

As our video capability migrates to 4K recording, editing and viewing, the BD standard is fading. BD players can't do 4K. And, although I'm not sure of this, but I think the BD standard is 1080 interlaced not progressive.

Yes, I miss menus, but actually only used them once. I did a really long video of family reunion. As reunion videos can be, it was boring watching start to finish. I put in a menu so relatives could jump to favorite parts. It was a huge pain to figure out which relative had a BD player and who needed a DVD. It took days to produce enough discs.

Intended with a smile....how do your watch Blu-Rays on your iPad?

In all seriousness, it may be that, for the sake your needed menus, you should stick with Premiere Elements 15 or choose some other software.

What ever you choose to do, good luck and please have fun making videos!

Bill

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