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I've been using PE 13 to edit video shot with a Sony camcorder for several years. I start with several chunks of video (around 2 gb each) of MTS format video. They are added to the timeline in the order they were shot. In PE13 everything is good and audio is in sync from beginning to end. I recently installed PE 2018 and starting with the second chunk of video the audio is behind the video. Not sure if the time difference accumulates from new chunk to new chunk but this didn't happen in 13 and does in 2018. Has anyone seen this and is it a correctable think in 2018? I haven't found anything in the prefs that would account for or correct the situation. Thanks!

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Camcorder audio not in sync with PE 2018

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I've been using PE 13 to edit video shot with a Sony camcorder for several years. I start with several chunks of video (around 2 gb each) of MTS format video. They are added to the timeline in the order they were shot. In PE13 everything is good and audio is in sync from beginning to end. I recently installed PE 2018 and starting with the second chunk of video the audio is behind the video. Not sure if the time difference accumulates from new chunk to new chunk but this didn't happen in 13 and does in 2018. Has anyone seen this and is it a correctable think in 2018? I haven't found anything in the prefs that would account for or correct the situation. Thanks!

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Most likely you're using video that is using variable frame rates.

Open some of the video that's out of sync in Premiere Elements in the free download MediaInfo. In MediaInfo, set View to Text and then copy the report it generates and paste it to this forum.

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General

ID                                       : 0 (0x0)

Complete name                            : C:\Users\Steve Desktop\Videos\NFARL\2019\2 February\00108.MTS

Format                                   : BDAV

Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video

File size                                : 1.98 GiB

Duration                                 : 17 min 13 s

Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable

Overall bit rate                         : 16.4 Mb/s

Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 18.0 Mb/s

Recorded date                            : 2019-02-19 19:36:45-05:00

Writing application                      : Sony HDR-CX130

Video

ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : High@L4

Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

Format settings, RefFrames               : 2 frames

Format settings, GOP                     : M=2, N=15

Codec ID                                 : 27

Duration                                 : 17 min 13 s

Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Bit rate                                 : 15.5 Mb/s

Maximum bit rate                         : 16.0 Mb/s

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Interlaced

Scan type, store method                  : Separated fields

Scan order                               : Top Field First

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.250

Stream size                              : 1.87 GiB (94%)

IrisFNumber                              : 2.000000

Audio

ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AC-3

Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital

Codec ID                                 : 129

Duration                                 : 17 min 12 s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Channel layout                           : L R

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Delay relative to video                  : -67 ms

Stream size                              : 31.5 MiB (2%)

Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text

ID                                       : 4608 (0x1200)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : PGS

Codec ID                                 : 144

Duration                                 : 17 min 12 s

Delay relative to video                  : -67 ms

General

ID                                       : 0 (0x0)

Complete name                            : C:\Users\Steve Desktop\Videos\NFARL\2019\2 February\00109.MTS

Format                                   : BDAV

Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video

File size                                : 1.98 GiB

Duration                                 : 17 min 13 s

Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable

Overall bit rate                         : 16.4 Mb/s

Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 18.0 Mb/s

Recorded date                            : 2019-02-19 19:53:58-05:00

Writing application                      : Sony HDR-CX130

Video

ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : High@L4

Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

Format settings, RefFrames               : 2 frames

Format settings, GOP                     : M=2, N=15

Codec ID                                 : 27

Duration                                 : 17 min 13 s

Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Bit rate                                 : 15.5 Mb/s

Maximum bit rate                         : 16.0 Mb/s

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Interlaced

Scan type, store method                  : Separated fields

Scan order                               : Top Field First

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.250

Stream size                              : 1.87 GiB (94%)

IrisFNumber                              : 2.600000

Audio

ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AC-3

Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital

Codec ID                                 : 129

Duration                                 : 17 min 13 s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Channel layout                           : L R

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Delay relative to video                  : -608 ms

Stream size                              : 31.5 MiB (2%)

Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text

ID                                       : 4608 (0x1200)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : PGS

Codec ID                                 : 144

Duration                                 : 17 min 12 s

Delay relative to video                  : -67 ms

General

ID                                       : 0 (0x0)

Complete name                            : C:\Users\Steve Desktop\Videos\NFARL\2019\2 February\00110.MTS

Format                                   : BDAV

Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video

File size                                : 1.98 GiB

Duration                                 : 17 min 13 s

Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable

Overall bit rate                         : 16.4 Mb/s

Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 18.0 Mb/s

Recorded date                            : 2019-02-19 20:11:12-05:00

Writing application                      : Sony HDR-CX130

Video

ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : High@L4

Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

Format settings, RefFrames               : 2 frames

Format settings, GOP                     : M=2, N=15

Codec ID                                 : 27

Duration                                 : 17 min 13 s

Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Bit rate                                 : 15.5 Mb/s

Maximum bit rate                         : 16.0 Mb/s

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Interlaced

Scan type, store method                  : Separated fields

Scan order                               : Top Field First

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.250

Stream size                              : 1.87 GiB (94%)

IrisFNumber                              : 2.400000

Audio

ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AC-3

Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital

Codec ID                                 : 129

Duration                                 : 17 min 13 s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Channel layout                           : L R

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Delay relative to video                  : -604 ms

Stream size                              : 31.5 MiB (2%)

Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text

ID                                       : 4608 (0x1200)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : PGS

Codec ID                                 : 144

Duration                                 : 17 min 12 s

Delay relative to video                  : -67 ms

General

ID                                       : 0 (0x0)

Complete name                            : C:\Users\Steve Desktop\Videos\NFARL\2019\2 February\00111.MTS

Format                                   : BDAV

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Duration                                 : 17 min 13 s

Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable

Overall bit rate                         : 16.5 Mb/s

Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 18.0 Mb/s

Recorded date                            : 2019-02-19 20:28:25-05:00

Writing application                      : Sony HDR-CX130

Video

ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : High@L4

Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

Format settings, RefFrames               : 2 frames

Format settings, GOP                     : M=2, N=15

Codec ID                                 : 27

Duration                                 : 17 min 12 s

Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Bit rate                                 : 15.5 Mb/s

Maximum bit rate                         : 16.0 Mb/s

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Interlaced

Scan type, store method                  : Separated fields

Scan order                               : Top Field First

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.250

Stream size                              : 1.87 GiB (94%)

IrisFNumber                              : 2.200000

Audio

ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AC-3

Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital

Codec ID                                 : 129

Duration                                 : 17 min 13 s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Channel layout                           : L R

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Delay relative to video                  : -600 ms

Stream size                              : 31.5 MiB (2%)

Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text

ID                                       : 4608 (0x1200)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : PGS

Codec ID                                 : 144

Duration                                 : 17 min 12 s

Delay relative to video                  : -66 ms

General

ID                                       : 0 (0x0)

Complete name                            : C:\Users\Steve Desktop\Videos\NFARL\2019\2 February\00112.MTS

Format                                   : BDAV

Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video

File size                                : 1.63 GiB

Duration                                 : 14 min 10 s

Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable

Overall bit rate                         : 16.4 Mb/s

Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 18.0 Mb/s

Recorded date                            : 2019-02-19 20:45:38-05:00

Writing application                      : Sony HDR-CX130

Video

ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : High@L4

Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

Format settings, RefFrames               : 2 frames

Format settings, GOP                     : M=2, N=15

Codec ID                                 : 27

Duration                                 : 14 min 9 s

Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Bit rate                                 : 15.5 Mb/s

Maximum bit rate                         : 16.0 Mb/s

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Interlaced

Scan type, store method                  : Separated fields

Scan order                               : Top Field First

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.250

Stream size                              : 1.54 GiB (94%)

IrisFNumber                              : 2.400000

Audio

ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : AC-3

Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital

Codec ID                                 : 129

Duration                                 : 14 min 10 s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Channel layout                           : L R

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Delay relative to video                  : -576 ms

Stream size                              : 26.0 MiB (2%)

Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text

ID                                       : 4608 (0x1200)

Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)

Format                                   : PGS

Codec ID                                 : 144

Duration                                 : 14 min 9 s

Delay relative to video                  : -66 ms

General

Complete name                            : C:\Users\Steve Desktop\Videos\NFARL\2019\2 February\Output\February 2019 Presentation.mpg

Format                                   : MPEG-PS

File size                                : 2.11 GiB

Duration                                 : 50 min 26 s

Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable

Overall bit rate                         : 5 982 kb/s

Video

ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)

Format                                   : MPEG Video

Commercial name                          : HDV 720p

Format version                           : Version 2

Format profile                           : Main@High 1440

Format settings                          : BVOP

Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes

Format settings, Matrix                  : Default

Format settings, GOP                     : Variable

Duration                                 : 50 min 26 s

Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Bit rate                                 : 5 479 kb/s

Maximum bit rate                         : 18.5 Mb/s

Width                                    : 1 280 pixels

Height                                   : 720 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS

Standard                                 : NTSC

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Progressive

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.198

Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00;00

Time code source                         : Group of pictures header

GOP, Open/Closed                         : Open

GOP, Open/Closed of first frame          : Closed

Stream size                              : 1.93 GiB (92%)

Color primaries                          : BT.709

Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709

Audio

ID                                       : 192 (0xC0)

Format                                   : MPEG Audio

Format version                           : Version 1

Format profile                           : Layer 2

Duration                                 : 50 min 26 s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 384 kb/s

Channel(s)                               : 2 channels

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate                               : 41.667 FPS (1152 SPF)

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Stream size                              : 139 MiB (6%)

General

Complete name                            : C:\Users\Steve Desktop\Videos\NFARL\2019\2 February\Output\February 2019 Presentation.xmp

File size                                : 4.46 KiB

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Is that a report from just one video? It looks like several.

Which is the video that is playing out of sync when you add it to Premiere Elements?

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Sorry....grabbed the folder to process which generated outputs for all the video files. All files are from the most recent camcorder shoot. When adding the first video in the above output the audio is synced correctly,  When I add the next video the audio lags the video. The audio lag continues when adding the other files in name order but I don't think the lag increases with each successive video. Since I needed to get this edited and out the door I re-installed PE13 and edited the video with no problems and no audio lag. This only happens in PE2018. Thanks much for the help in figuring this out.

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I dont use sony cameras but have been reading out of sync seems to be occurring more often lately.

Possible solution is to use Sony Play Memory to copy files from card to hdd instead of Explorer or Elements.

Once on the hdd ingest into Elements.

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Thanks for the reply Ann. Files are all pulled from the SD card to local storage (SSD) and then brought into PE for editing. Not familiar with Sony Play Memory so I will have to investigate that. Again the files stay synced when using PE13 and only have issues in PE2018. After looking again at the MediInfo  output file and it appears that the camcorder is using VBR for the files. What seems to be the best utility to convert the files from VBR to CBR to see if that makes 2018 happy?

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VBR as in variable BITRATE is not the same as variable FRAMERATE (VFR) which is often the issue. But regular cameras don't film in VFR.

Try the Sony app.

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I will. Thanks.

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