PE 7 - Mod files from JVC camera importing with errors.

[_Stuart_Fern_]

Hi everyone,
I was having enormous difficulties with Premiere Elements 4 so I bought version 7 as it listed mod files as a supported type. Well at least PE 7 is actually seeing the mod files and easily importing them. Unfortunately each file ends up with its own unique error - mostly green pixels showing up in the image randomly or even faces or images from other files suddenly appearing in the middle of a different file.
My project will only go for about 35 mins but it is being created from 3.5 hours of footage. Is anyone else having these sort of issues? Is it just to do with the dreaded mod file, or have other people experienced it in other situations?
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Stuart

[Guest]

Hope it goes OK. Let us know how you get on.

[Video_CJC]

No luck. I imported 3 files from my camera using the widescreen Hard

Drive camera setting. I only imported 3 files so as not to take to

much time rendering. Same results. Thanks

Sent from my iPod

[Guest]

One further thing to try (other than converting the clips to DV-AVI before bringing them into Premiere Elements) is to deinterlace the video on the timeline. So right click on each clip and select Field Order, then select always Deinterlace... this will definately eliminate any field orde issue but will impact the quality slightly.

OK, assuming the field order is not the issue and you still get juddering during panning when playing on your set-top DVD player there are a couple of other possibilities. One is that the actual DVD and DVD player combo is having issues. Are you using a good brand DVD and what speed are they? Premiere Elements will burn at the maximum speed of the DVD, using lower speed DVDs produces more "compatible" DVDs. Altermatively burning to folder and then burning to DVD with a 3rd party DVD burning software may give better results as you can control the burn speed.

Another posssibility is that the bitrate of the DVD is too high (as you have only a few clips on the DVD it cant be that the bitrate is too low). DVDs burnt at high bitrate (8Mb/s with Premiere Elements) can have issues with some DVD players when playing back "fast" scenes. You could try to burn at a lower bitrate.. say 6 or 7Mb/s.

[Video_CJC]

Thank you for the advice, I will try what you sugested and get back to

you. As always, thank you much.

Sent from my iPod

[Video_CJC]

The deinterlacing did the trick. The video was was flawless with any

movement in the scene. I did see the video quality was less though as you

said it would be. So I guess this proves this is an interlacing problem? I

just wonder though, all the video I shoot is in widescreen. When I import

the video to the computer, I use the "NTSC hard drive widescreen" setting

but in the editing window the video is displayed in 4:3. I have to go to

the edit tab and change the aspect ratio to widescreen (1.2) for all the

clips. Its like the initial setting of widescreen when I imported the video

didn't take. So the question is, in that same setting, when your going to

import, did the "upperfields first" take as well? Is it rendering

lowerfields first? To many standards in my opinion make it so complicated.

Just to let you know, my DVD burner is a dual-layer HP and I always use

Verbatim -R DVDs. I've had the best compatibility with different DVD

players using Verbatim -R's. Once a week I record a TV show my wife and I

like on the harddrive of my computer. I then edit out the commercials and

burn a DVD. It always works so I know the burner and media are OK.

If you have the time, please let me know the next step. What do you know

about SDcopy? Is that something to look into?

As always, thank you for your time on this.

[Guest]

The aspect ratio issue is another common problem when importing MOD files. Go the clips in the projecy Media Bin. Right click on them, select Interpret footage and select Conform To (guess this is what you are doing). Then select the widescreen format, the clips will then appear widescreen in the editing window. However the upper field first for a flash, hard disk camcorder is correct.

SDcopy basically jusy sets the extension to MPEG and corrects the aspect ratio flag. You are effectively doing the same thing in PE7 using the Intepret Footage and PE7 accepts the MOD format anyway. So I dont SDcopy will add anything to your workflow.

Unless you are prepared to convert your footage to DV-AVI I dont think you will be able to do much more than you have done already.

[letapatrick]

OMG- This was WONDERFUL.  I have been so aggravated by these "green splotches" as I called them.  I was just about to give up when I came across your thread.  Thank you, Thank you, Thank you so much.  You have saved me from countless hours of editing.  I was having to go in the timeline, zoom it out, cut the green scenes and then the video would have missing footage so I would try to add a dissolve transition in to camaflouge the scene.  Thank you really!!!!!

lp

[Video_CJC]

You're very welcome. I'm glad some good came out of this for someone

else besides me!!

Sent from my iPod

[_DunaKevin_]

Great!

It worked for me too Gary.

It's too late for me, weeks of editing are now in Pinnacle project files I will not come back to PE7.

But of course, very good news.

Of course, a poor response from Adobe Support telling me "no support for trial software" (see a previous post) when removing a file is enough to solve this problem.

Sorry, my money went to Pinnacle.

Next time :)

Thanks a lot Gary.

[New Improved Chuck Engels]

It won't be too long before you come back Gary 8)

[_DerekJSmith_]

What exactly does this fastimportermpeg do?? I was having the same problems with my everio and once I moved the fastimporter to the desktop all seems well..... I will not delete it though...

[_Stuart_Fern_]

That is an incredibly good point. I had written off Adobe Premiere Elements as the technical support had rapidly responded to my request with absolutely no help at all. And suddenly here is a solution and Pre 7 is working for the first time ever and I'm stunned. Someone please explain.

[_Gary_R__Lambert_]

I too was ready to give up on Elements 7... I think it was just luck of timing and getting a helpful tech (thanks again Ronald!). I do not know what the fastimportermpeg file does exactly, but I still am not seeing any of those green artifacts. I even have gotten brave and deleted this file from some of my workstations.

I do have one other "issue" with Pre7, and that is the way they changed the Timeline to pair the video/audio tracks. I find that Video 2 is paired with Audio 2, and both tracks are above Video 1 and Audio 1. My video editing experience comes from using AVID and Final Cut Pro, and this pairing of the tracks, rather then having all the video tracks above all the audio tracks, is confusing to me and the my students who are just learning video editing. I asked Ronald if there was a way to change the way the tracks are listed on the Timeline, and he said "no". His suggestion was that if this bothers anyone, they should go to: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform and fill out a "Feature Request". If Adobe gets enough of this request, they may change it in future versions.

Happy Editing all...

[Guest]

I just had the same problem, can not import .mod files created by JVC Everio camcorder, into Premiere. After searching for help/reading the Adobe forum, and learning of everyone else's import issues, convert s/w trials, etc. I finally went back to my fall back position.

1) I created a dvd of the mod files (using the sw that came with the camer, or really anything that creates a dvd format).
2) I went back to Adobe Premiere Pro, and Using the Capture device (F5) via my Matrox Break-out box/Line in which I hooked to my external DVD player, I am able to bring in all media, exactly like it plays on a dvd player. now I can get back to editing on the one avi file that Adobe created for me.

I would like to hear from anyone about the cons of doing this. is there a down side/problem? so far, I have not found any.

[Steve Grisetti]

Cheryl, we are 35 posts into a 6 month old thread. The best way to get a response to your question might be to start a new topic.

[Guest]

We have added a few more pages to the thread over the last week Steve...  so infact it is current...

[Video_CJC]

Again thanks for your time. Can you tell me of a good program to

convert my video to DV-AVI like you mentioned?

Sent from my iPod

[the_wine_snob]

My main conversion program is DigitalMedia Converter, and it works very well for me. It's not freeware (costs ~US$40), and it does not ship with any CODEC's of its own (a good thing, in my book). It allows batch processing and hardly ever chokes on a file, unless it is corrupt. There is/was a trial, and I would suggest that, if available, prior to buying the program. There are many freeware conversion programs available too, but since DMC works so well for me, I really do not use any others.

Good luck,

Hunt

PS your iPod is smarter than mine! [Grin]

[Guest]

Also see this FAQ on converting to DV-AVI. It gives a number of options. MPEG_Streamclip works well (and MOD is a supported import format) and it is freeware and instructions are in the FAQ. Also did you get PowerDirector with your camcorder?... you can export to DV-AVI with this.

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/415317?tstart=0

[the_wine_snob]

Paul,

Good call on PowerDirector. I have used it as a conversion utility (did not like its editing interface), and it has output some perfect DV-AVI's.

Hunt

[Video_CJC]

Thanks guys, I'll check out Streamclip, by the way, I purchased my

camea on Ebay w/no software. I don't have Power Director.

Sent from my iPod

[Guest]

Hi guys,

I have a JVC HD-7 camcorder which outputs MOI files. Before dropping them into Premiere Elements I convert them to MPEG2 file using Streamclip. However, in version 7 I'm also experiencing the random green pixels. As suggested I have tried the two solutions:

1. Removing the ImporterFastMPEG.prm

2. Importing as an AVI

The 2nd option removes the green pixels but then you have to render the clip before you can play back. Of coure if you then cut, edit or add any knd of transition you then have to re-render the timeline. This is not practical for clips that are 5 minutes or more longer.

I never had any of these issues in version 2.0 and the reason for the upgrade was so that the mpeg files could be played back during the editing process.

Any suggestions would be appreciated, especially if anyone has a solution to this annoying problem.

Thanks,

Bob.

[Guest]

An update regarding the green pixels problem:

As has been mentioned above, deleting/removing the ImporterMPEG.prm file fixes the green pixel problem but the preview window drops a considerable number of frames making the preview playback difficult to use (without rendering first). The solution I found was to do the following:

1. Leave the ImporterFastMPEG.prm where it is - do not delete or remove.

2. Edit your video (with the green pixels)

3. When ready to export close Adobe Premiere Elements, delete the Media Cache files and then remove/delete the ImporterFastMPEG.prm file

4. Re-start Adobe Premiere Elements and then open your project - the files will be re-rendered without the green pixels.

A long-winded way of doing it but at will give you decent playback preview video and no green pixels in your final video file.

Bob.

[the_wine_snob]

Bob,

Thank you for taking the time to both investigate this problem and then for posting the workaround.

For the MOD files, it would be good to have a "button," to disable the FastMPEG.prm, or a script to easily do so, within PrE, when the time comes.

Appreciated,

Hunt

[Guest]

Let's hope other with the same problem find the post.

The question remains though - why do the green pixels appear in the first place?

Bob.