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Colours completely change when exporting HEVC h265 sequence to a mp4 h264 file

Contributor ,
Oct 12, 2021 Oct 12, 2021

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Hello,

HEVC (h265) is becoming a pretty common format now which I have to work with in Premiere. I receive it from drones, from various Sony cameras like the a7s3, etc - it's great quality and in 10bit 4:2:2 is great for colour grading albeit incredibly CPU intensive.

However, even working online (no proxies) I'm having massive headaches with colours when exporting.

I've tried both the 2 most recent betas of Premiere and am consistently finding the colour profile is wrong.

 

I've tried playing the exported file (just a standard mp4 h264) in various players and the colours are just night and day different - horribly saturated in a crude way that blows colours; skin tones become burned orange and greens are neon, etc.. 

 

See this screenshot of my settings - I suspect "Export Colour Profile" is to blame, but it won't let me change it?! Really annoying and doesn't make sense to me.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 12, 2021 Oct 12, 2021

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What is your timeline color space?

 

Neil

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Explorer ,
Nov 15, 2021 Nov 15, 2021

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Hey @lflegg any updates on what worked/didn't work for you with this? I'm having some issues with the color of my H.265 footage as well. For me it's showing up as I'm grading F-Log footage...

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Hi lflegg,

 

You can change the ouput color space after changing the profile to Main 10. with H.264 you will get software encode for Main 10 (H264 10). 

 

With Premiere Pro 22.1.1 Beta we have also added Hardware encode support for HEVC 10 bit Media. You can also test with HEVC encode.

 

Regards

Abhishek 

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Explorer ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Hey @abhishekkapoor my footage is still looking funky in PP Beta, any ideas?

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Community Expert ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Emma,

 

Please help everyone check out what's going on with this. We need to know the source of the media, and the color space. Check the Properties for the clips in Premiere, and it's a good ideal to also check the video header of the file with the free utility app MediaInfo ... download/install, and when you've got the icon on your desktop, simply drag/drop a clip from Finder/Explorer on top of the icon.

 

MediaInfo will open, go to that app's "Tree" view, and give us a screen grab of the video data like this:

MediaInfo TreeView.PNG

Also, we need to know what the Sequence color space is set to, so check for that in your Sequence settings dialog and give that information also.

 

Neil

 

 

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Explorer ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Thanks Neil!

Here is the info from MediaInfo:

Screen Shot 2021-11-16 at 3.36.49 PM.pngScreen Shot 2021-11-16 at 3.36.57 PM.png

 

And from PP:

Screen Shot 2021-11-16 at 3.34.57 PM.png

 

Sequence settings:

Screen Shot 2021-11-16 at 3.35.16 PM.png

 

Also, I'm noticing that this looks like H.624 8bit so I'm wondering if my DP mixed up his codecs..

 

The color problem that I'm noticing is across all Adobe platforms that I've put the video into (Premiere Pro, After Effects, Media Encoder).

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Community Expert ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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Weird thing that sticks out is the color space items in MediaInfo ... it has 709 primaries, but 601 transfer and matrix coefficients. Which ends up causing Premiere to load it as a Rec.(Bt) 601 color space file.

 

Which I haven't seen in like for freaking ever. Huh.

 

Neil

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Explorer ,
Nov 16, 2021 Nov 16, 2021

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I'm so glad that you're confirming that's weird! It threw me and I haven't been able to find it anywhere on the internet.

 

And Quicktime is reading *only* the Matrix as 601.

Screen Shot 2021-11-16 at 2.59.46 PM.png

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 24, 2022 Feb 24, 2022

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Soooo, did this ever get solved? Can't figure out why my HEVC (H.265) exporting format is making the video look way more saturated and the whites are popping out like a soar thumb. 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 24, 2022 Feb 24, 2022

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What is the color space of the file? And is it only with HEVC, and not say with H.264 or ProRes?

 

Neil

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New Here ,
Jun 06, 2022 Jun 06, 2022

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This occurs because in the export settings Premiere Pro won't let you select the Export Color Space that matches your sequence (Rec. 2100 HLG) when exporting to HEVC (H.265). It is set to Rec.709 and can't be changed. Same issue with Media Encoder. The workaround that I used was to export to a Quicktime Pro Res 422 HQ, select Rec. 2100 HLG as my Export Color Space. Then I used Apple Compressor to encode to HEVC (H.265).

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Jun 06, 2022 Jun 06, 2022

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This occurs because in the export settings Premiere Pro won't let you select the Export Color Space that matches your sequence (Rec. 2100 HLG) when exporting to H.264. It is set to Rec.709 and can't be changed. Same issue with Media Encoder. The workaround that I used was to export to a Quicktime Pro Res 422 HQ, select Rec. 2100 HLG as my Export Color Space. Then I used Apple Compressor to encode to H.264.

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Jun 06, 2022 Jun 06, 2022

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It's pretty simple: don't use the standard SDR presets for HDR exports!

 

Use one of the presets designed for MP4/HLG ... and you can do the HLG export in the H.264 format.

 

Wanna go "match source - HLG" ... just choose that preset to start.

 

Neil

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