Let's find the "QUALITY ISSUES" challenge

[Evri]

Hey everyone,

I thought it would be fun and hopefully useful to start a little challenge here.

I recently had a video rejected for “Quality Reasons,” but when I reviewed the file, I couldn’t spot the issues mentioned in the rejection notice.

The reviewer’s possible reasons were:

Unintentional shaking (The camera is completely steady and doesn’t move)

Empty black or white frames (none that I can find)

Compression or audio problems (there’s no audio at all)

So here’s the challenge: can anyone actually spot a quality issue in this video?
If yes, please explain what you see. 

[ZALEZPHOTO]

Brother I am an ignorant when it comes to creating ai photos or videos.  Your video is awesome and could not tell you why it was rejected. But I'll trade you know how on traditional shooting for yours any day of your choosing.

[DaveFX · Accepted solution]

The girl has a sudden and abrupt movement of her back and hip at sec. 5, the animation is not fluid ... from experience I have already seen this type of rejections ... I have more than 3000 videos, no AI ... but I know what a fluid motion is ... just my 2 cents  ... 

[Evri]

I’m starting to believe their reasons are completely random and depend on whether the reviewer is having a bad day or not.

I’ve seen much worse AI videos accepted here, and I’m familiar with the overall quality standard that gets approved. 

I mean Take this video for example, how is this getting accepted? It’s shaking, out of focus, pixelated, the main object is out of frame, and it looks like a moussaka or crème brûlée in a glass when it's supposed to be dalgona coffee? 

[daniellei4510]

You're correct, it shouldn't have been accepted. That happens at times. Probably more often than it should.  It should have been submitted as a still image in any case. 

[Abambo]

I’m starting to believe their reasons are completely random and depend on whether the reviewer is having a bad day or not.

By @Evri

You can't rule out a bad day, and such an asset should indeed not been accepted. However, from a buyer's point of view, I would never buy this asset, and if I would buy your asset, because I did not see thze issues at first, I would complain about it.

Many generative AI videos do not have correct natural motion, and I suppose that rendering issues are even worse than with still assets.

[ZALEZPHOTO]

Evri as you can see, there's plenty of people willing to opine here.  My advice to you is to staying focused in creating great work. Don't be discouraged by rejections, 

The fact is that I've had many photos rejected, only to end up being accepted after a few attempts. 
idk why this happens, if it has to do with a preselection system, ranking or just plain algorithm activity. The fact is that when I started submitting 8 months ago, I was expiriencing a lot more rejections, and today perhaps my work is ranking higher and not getting such scrutiny, and photos that were rejected 3 months ago are now getting accepted.

Above all, have fun and ignore the noise

[Evri]

Thanks! The truth is, I’ve had a lot of rejected photos so I’m used to it.

The problem with videos is that they cost money to produce, and I still believe the rejection of this particular video was unfair. It’s unique within their catalog, and I honestly don’t think the “hip movement” of the model is a valid reason for rejection.

I still believe it could be useful to someone and that it has value.

I'm trying to contact the reviewing team to get a clear answer. 

[ZALEZPHOTO]

Look everyone is entiteld to their own opinions. I absolutely disagree with the idea there's an "shaking or abrupt" movement.  Don't look at it as an unfair rejection, and don't wast time on it. I beleive this is just the nature of a gigantic oporation that needs to filter a lot of junk or substandard submissions. Put this video in a resubmit later folder, and save your time writing to someone who will never reply, not at least until you are a great partner for Adobe.

I love what you did, I have my mix feelings about AI, but this is an animation that will never be done in a conventional way unless you have a blockbuster budget to do so. Keep up this level of quality, and us your vision to also shoot the real thing, I bet you will creat great work, and put a lot less time into it.

Cheers!

[DaveFX]

"I absolutely disagree with the idea there's an "shaking or abrupt" movement. " ... sorry but i dont agree ... high quality is another thing ... maybe you are used to a lower quality... this is the problem... and you get offended if your average quality work is not accepted... a separate issue are the rejections with incorrect or non-corresponding reasons, but the video of the user who wrote the post is not to be approved... based on the standards I have been accustomed to for 8 years and that Adobe demands...

In the last 2 years, I'm speaking in general, but there are exceptions, the quality, especially of images and videos made with AI, has lowered the quality level of the entire stock industry... if customers love these images or videos, that's another matter, and I imagine Adobe is also happy if it sells such videos or images... I repeat: in my opinion, the time to enter this market is gone because it's now very hard for a video to be approved, and there are so many contributors with portfolios of 50,000 assets, so the competition is prohibitive... anyway, good luck, I'll move on and close.

[ZALEZPHOTO]

Like I said, everyone is entitled to their opinions.

cheers!

[Evri]

"there are so many contributors with portfolios of 50,000 assets, so the competition is prohibitive" 

That’s quite a pessimistic outlook. Whether there are 50k or 50 billion assets, there will always be room for new trends, techniques, and ideas that bring fresh air of content. Comments like that only serve to discourage new contributors, which is something I find really unhelpful.

[ZALEZPHOTO]

I 100% agree! Adobe greatest challenge is finding good enough content, and more importantly great work.  Some in this forum are not constructive... and their comments a manifestation of some kind of frustration.
And that besides annoying, destroys the enthusiasm new people have.

Thats my opinion, and anyone is welcome to disagree 

[Nancy OShea]

Some in this forum are not constructive... and their comments a manifestation of some kind of frustration. And that besides annoying, destroys the enthusiasm new people have.

By @ZALEZPHOTO

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Sugar-coated cereal tastes sweet, but it contains almost no nutritional value. The same can be said for sugar-coated critiques. 

Blowing smoke up people's posteriors for LIKES doesn't help anyone. It gives them a false sense of security that their work is perfect, even when it's not. That's detrimental, not constructive. 

In the long run, an honest, unsugared observation goes a long way towards educating the OP about what to look for & help them improve their outcomes with future projects. Nobody's perfect. We all make mistakes. There's no shame in making mistakes. Shame comes from ignoring them.  

In summary, the OP has 5 possible reasons for the Quality rejection: jerky motion, malformed fingers, a wonky dress hem, foreground & background elements that don't make sense. Armed with that information, the OP can decide what to do next. Either discard the project & start over, or fix it and resubmit.

[Evri]

Nancy, why are you so obsessed with repeatedly saying it doesn’t make sense? The purpose and advantage of AI is to produce surreal concepts and create something a common videographer can’t. Having such a powerful tool and aim for accuracy and realism would be a waste. Also, as far as I know, there’s no rule that requires strict realism. Is there? 

[Nancy OShea]

Speaking as a buyer, natural realism is a selling point.

But hey, you do whatever you want. Ultimately, customers will vote with their wallets.

[Abambo]

The purpose and advantage of AI is to produce surreal concepts and create something a common videographer can’t.

By @Evri

Sorry, but you are ill informed. Your levetation video is easy to perform. https://youtu.be/s-a9sOZX9wU?si=_ymYu_yxuygRYTT7

Having such a powerful tool and aim for accuracy and realism would be a waste. Also, as far as I know, there’s no rule that requires strict realism. Is there? 

By @Evri

Did you ever watched Star Wars? It's not realistic, but convincing. You do not need to be realistic, but you need to convice the public. Look at Disney's animation techniques. They are convincing, but if you check them picture by picture, they are not realistic: https://thelightinglab.es/en/disneys-12-principles-of-animation-a-guide-to-create-realistic-and-dyna...

The photographic language is real, also for generative AI. And the cinematographic language is real, also for generative AI.

[Ricky336]

The thing is though, this platform isn't actually a teaching platform.  
Why was my asset rejected? Answer; probably because of this reason and a few others. The end.

[Evri]

I’m actually more interested in knowing the specific reason than in getting this video accepted. If they provided accurate rejection feedback, it would benefit all of us and help improve the overall quality of their catalog. 

[Abambo]

I’m actually more interested in knowing the specific reason

By @Evri

You'll never know what caught the moderator's eye. They refuse at the first issue they see.

[Ricky336]

I agree with you @DaveFX , the video appears a little 'jumpy' to me as well, and I think it could be smoother. Perhaps some may regard this as a small thing, but nevertheless, it is an important consideration to bear in mind.

[daniellei4510 · Accepted solution]

Agreed, but I'm still blaming the fingers. If this had been submitted as a still image, they would be the first thing the moderator would look at.

[Abambo]

I absolutely disagree with the idea there's an "shaking or abrupt" movement.  

By @ZALEZPHOTO

If you are doing movies, you know that errors in the movement are very visible.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. You are mixing those up.

[Abambo]

I honestly don’t think the “hip movement” of the model is a valid reason for rejection.

By @Evri

But it is, the same with the unatural cloth movement when the levetation starts. You need to see this from a buyer's point of view. A buyer of this asset would complain about this asset. You just can't submit nearly error free assets. 

@ZALEZPHOTO is giving bad advice and his method to resubmit until accepted may get him banned one day. He just has the advantage, that there are many more contributors now than when I started, where the moderators were much more attentive to details (you also got bad assets accepted at that time, btw).

But every asset is dependant on it's use. I've seen very cheap advertising with really bad generative AI pictures. There is a market for those assets. Most serious companies (at least in my line of business) rule out the use of generative AI, or are only interested in quality generative AI. If it costs more to correct bad assets, they will buy good assets from stock.

[ZALEZPHOTO]

Brother you continue to interpreting my comments to justify your repeated and boring replies.

I have NEVER said I keep resubmitting until I get approval, much less recommend anyone doing that. I have share my personal experience, (includding over 30 years shooting full time as a professional) that I've had work approved on the fourth try and the only thing I've changed was the time I submitted.  

One more time so try to pay attention so that you may stop the habit of interpreting to your own conditioning:

Adobe's selection system has problems that need to be solved. That is a fact proven when work that should not be rejected is, or when brosing at the buyer site any pro can see mediocre assets that made it in. I've said this is something that hurts EVERYONE includding you. Or that several times I have mistakenly submmited the same photo, and twice have been accepted, then I delete one. 

I've also Emphasized that this should not be taken personal as some rogue employee has it against anyone, but said this should not be ignored. And above all, I HAVE REPEATED many times my desire is to help Adobe improve, not biting on the hand that feeds me.

Brother Abambo, I am sure you have also read that I stop the practice of resubmitting rejected photos, now I just go straight to Getty whoe ends up accepting 80% of what is rejected here... so PLEASE you can quote all you feel like you have to, just be accurate and factual. 

One more thing, no one has more advantage for being in this forum, in fact it is my opinion that some people here do more to discourage beginners than giving them actual useful tips, perhaps something everyone should keep in mind when sharing their opinions.

Hopefully this makes my position crystal clear to everyone here!