model release inquiry

[Gmos]

How do I get model releases for people who can't be id'ed? 

Adobe gave an example of a image that doesn't require a release, and it's an image  of a woman's face: where her eyes and forehead are hidden in like a 'milk' bath, exposing just like nose and mouth with red lipstick on in a opened position.  I feel that person could be id'ed faster then my shadow people. 

[daniellei4510]

Was your image in question refused based on requiring a model release? If it was, there's no way to appeal the moderator's decision.

[Gmos]

That is correct. Someone's reply said that exposure settings could expose faces, so maybe that's the issue. 

[Abambo]

You can test that. When I have silhouettes in pictures, they are far away, if the picture your posted is the whole composition, chances are that with little effort, you can make the faces visible.

[RALPH_L · Accepted solution]

Your image is too small for us to review. Be carefull with silohuettes. Often if someone just increases the exposure details can be seen which might require a model release.

[Gmos]

Best reply so far. I will test that out on jpeg vs and raw.  Thank you. 

[Gmos]

You could be right! Although still hard to make her face, exposure settings still has revealed more details.

 

[Abambo]

No model release is needed for this face. (Please note: the moderator may still ask for a release.)

[Gmos]

Then it's them just being uber sensitive. Because that's the closest face that you can make anything out on.

It's good to know that I may not need a release for such an image.. I will try on other stock sites. 

Thanks again for your input!

[Jill_C]

The guideline is that if a person could recognize themselves in an image, you need a model release. So, even an image taken of the back of a person could require a model release if there is something distinctive about the shape, clothing, hat, etc. I submitted an image of a nun seated on a bench outside a monastery, with her face hidden, completely covered almost head to toe in a black habit, and they wanted a model release. 

[Gmos]

Thank you for your feedback and experiences!! 

[Abambo]

Your cutout here does not need a model release, and if you get asked for one, it's by error. But as you did probably not show the complete picture, I can't be sure that there is not a different issue with your asset. What was the correct refusal reason given to you?

As others pointed out, you can't dispute refusals, but you may well submit the assets again.

[Gmos]

Thank you for your feedback! The rest of the image is just another couple even further back. Someone else replied that exposure settings could be changed to reveal faces. Which is possible I guess. I plan to check that out.  It said I needed model releases. 

[Abambo]

I prefer copy past of the refusal title. Sometimes people paraphrase and don't get it right. 😉

[Nancy OShea]

Make it habit to carry model & property release forms with you.  It's better to collect a signed release form that you may not use than not have one when you do.  Nobody can penalize you for being thorough.

• Model/Property Releases:
  https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/model-release.html
  https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/property-release.html
  
  

[daniellei4510]

There are a number of model release apps for cell phones if something like that would be helpful for you.