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The fact is that approval in one plattform or another is a total mystery for most people taking this work seriously
By @ZALEZPHOTO
Surely not.
I've said it many times and I get harrasment from community members simply for sharing my experience.
By @ZALEZPHOTO
You are giving bad advice that may get contributors in trouble.
I've had many photos rejected on quality issues, when there were none, only to be approved on the 4th or 5th time. I AM NOT telling anyone to insist on resubmmiting photos and risk getting canceled, but if you are 100% sure your photos meet the standard, wait a couple of weeks and try submitting again.
By @ZALEZPHOTO
This is one of the bad tips.
Your first:
Wrong white balance, narrow DOF and sensor dust. The refusals were correct, the acceptance has been done by error.
Your second:
Interesting shoes…but the picture is overprocessed. My guess is that you have added a lot of noise reduction. There are countless artefacts around her right leg. Here also, the refusals were correct.
And no one so far has commented on that simple fact
By @ZALEZPHOTO
You did.
And you give advice that can ultimately lead to account suspension because you ultimately advise people to spam the system.
Thanks for taking all the time to make your points even though I didn't think you addressed my points. Mr Abambo your reply proofs exactly what I said about the harrasment I always get from people here when I share my personal experience .
By @ZALEZPHOTO
When you're giving bad advice to spam the system, someone needs to speak out. That is not harassment. Submitting the same picture multiple times, without addressing the issues, may get you banned. That is not my personal experience because I never got banned here.
So again: submitting the same asset multiple times may be considered as spamming. I wouldn't say that correcting you is harassment.
The bigger picture, in my point is that the two photos I shared were finally accepted after 3 submissions, and despite your opinion there're issues with them.
By @ZALEZPHOTO
There are issues in your pictures, and they got refused multiple times for those issues. My guess is that you just got by chance the last time an inexperienced moderator at the end of their shift, when they were tired and just approved your pictures. That does not mean that there are no issues with those pictures.
I had indeed one or two pictures accepted, despite that they should have been refused. In my case, it was because of IP issues, that the moderator did oversee. As soon as I detected the error, I deleted the assets. Moderation is done by humans, and humans err. The system does not allow for submitting your assets as often as needed to get them accepted.
If you have never experienced rejection on photos, specially ones with shallow depth of field, then by your own admission you are giving advice based on what you haven't experienced, and I'm ok with that and don't care to opine about that.
By @ZALEZPHOTO
Who says that I have never experienced rejections? My very first rejection:
Since then, I experienced many more, as all of us have. Including some that you won't see any more, as they have been regrouped under “quality issues” to streamline the moderation process:
im new to Adobe and decided that I wanted to be exclusive with one agency, now most of what they reject I submit to Getty since I wish to make my presence here long term, by submitting great work, and inspire others to to the same.
By @ZALEZPHOTO
Sure. Adobe does not claim exclusive access to your pictures, and subscribers to Getty or other stock databases will not use Adobe stock. So if you want to diversify your sales, go ahead. Many other databases have less strict moderation, and they accept more assets. Some databases accept any submissions. Whatever makes you happy.
BTW, you're entitled to your opinion on Ramey's photo, and I COMPLETELY disagree.
And I'm sure difference in opinions are fine by me.
By @ZALEZPHOTO
You may check my comments. I have not issued one opinion on whatever pictures OP did post here because he did not yet post one. He just posted a link to his portfolio. That's OK, but that does not prove that his pictures are good or bad. Indeed, you can't check the quality of the picture (maybe except for the composition) based on thumbnails. So you completely disagree with my opinion, which I have not yet made public. That is also a standpoint.
38 yr Professional Photographer
By @ZALEZPHOTO
I first studied micro-electronics, that did not exactly include optics, but general physics included that field of competence, so I understand quite well all the aspects of a modern camera, including the limits in which they operate. Then I worked nearly 30 years as a graphics designer, and one of my tasks was to make bad pictures suitable for print. So I know a lot about how noise, exposure and DOF affect the work of graphic designers and how to check the pictures so that they are usable. During that time, I also worked as an industrial and architectural photographer, and occasionally as a portrait photographer. Many of my work has been published on websites and in brochures and annual reports. I know when a picture contains errors. That does not always mean that a picture is bad, it may be acceptable for this or that application.
But the buyer of a picture is entitled to get a picture that can be used in any situation for which they need the picture. Many buyers complain, when they get a bad picture and the pictures get removed and, in some cases, whole accounts get blocked.
But yes, you are entitled to disagree, but only to opinions that I expressed.
Sorry sir, you lost me in h the beginning and stop reading when you expressed "my comments are spam and someone needs to speak out"
By @ZALEZPHOTO
Your comments aren't spam, but you advise people to spam the moderation queue. That is different. When Adobe detects that you systematically resubmit refused pictures multiple times, that will be considered as spam and Adobe will suspend the account. Period. That is not an opinion.
A large number of my photos got approved on the 2nd 3rd and 4th time without anything done to them, and soon sale!
By @ZALEZPHOTO
Exactly that may be considered as spam. It won't get the attention of the team the first, the second, or the third time. But after each submission, you increase the chance to get caught in the act. Your chance is that currently there are huge numbers of contributors stressing the system far more than you do.
I ASSURE YOU, my only interest for Adobe to become a better experience for contributors, and have a sincere encouragement and feedback to new contributors learning the ropes.
By @ZALEZPHOTO
Do so, instead of giving bad advice. Discussion over.
I intend to help Adobe by sharing my user experiences, so they improve their end.
By @ZALEZPHOTO
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1) Adobe doesn't lurk in these user-to-user communities. You're preaching to the choir here.
I made the personal descision to upload exclusively to Adobe...
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2) I maintain no exclusivity to any one brand or service except when I'm forced to. Things can change abruptly. Having fallback options are preferable to having none.
We've all seen posts by ill-fated Contributors who had their accounts temporarily blocked or permanently terminated. In the absence of other revenue streams, they risked downing without a life preserver to keep them afloat. Don't be that ill-fated Contributor.
The constant rejection of flawless photos leaves me puzzled...
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3) Nothing is flawless. Some flaws are just less noticeable than others. Stock isn't personal. It's a fickle business driven by trends that come & go and a floating standards bar that never stays constant. Also, the competition is fierce and getting more so each week. Your content can be a hero one week and a zero the next. That's just the nature of Stock. Don't try to overthink it.
(...) i keep getting messages regarding the quality of my photos that is not good.
I have also uploaded the same photos on Shitterstock & has been approved.
By @Ramey Short
Well, I suppose it was only a typo, but my experience with Shutterstock is that they accept even out of focus assets. Anyhow: Adobe's turf, Adobe's rules!
The quality of the photos is definately not the problem.
By @Ramey Short
Definitive is a word that should not really be used here. Let's see one of your works full size, as refused for quality issues. (please only one!)
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