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PBR validate node's albedo to grayscale conversion weights?

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Feb 03, 2022 Feb 03, 2022

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Hey Substance3D team and community!

I was pinging Substance3D on twitter about this a while ago, but didn't get a response (https://twitter.com/olafhaag3D/status/1484321640515129352).

I was looking into the PBR BaseColor / Metallic validate node to better understand how safe values are determined. As a first step, it converts the albedo to a grayscale image, presumably to get luminance values.

I was a bit surprised about the channel weights .299R+.587G+.114B, which are typically used to calculate rec601 luma, not used with sRGB/Rec. 709 values.

SD-PBR-albedo-grayscale-weights.jpgWhy is that? Aren't the colors linearized internally? I try to understand why the colorimetric weights (.2126R+.7152G+.0722B) weren't used, assuming nodes use a linear colorspace.

More on grayscale/luminance/luma conversion and the difference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grayscale

 

The PBR Albedo safe color node, on the other hand, treats all channels equally.

SD-PBR-albedo-safe-color-levels.jpg

I assume the 0.19 and 0.12 values in the function are just the range between 50 and 30 sRGB, which kind of hints at non-linear sRGB colorspace is used in nodes. But since sRGB are non-linear values, how useful is a linear interpolation?

I appreciate any information to clear up my confusion. Thanks!

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