Adobe 3D Apps should be included in the Creative Cloud All Apps Plan. Change my mind.

I understand substance being separate from the other apps. Most people that use Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects and Illustrator do not need substance apps in a regular basis.
However, what I don't understand is that even though the substance apps are a separate subscription, they still use the same set of devices as the CC apps. So if you have 2 devices with CC you can't log into a third device to use Substance apps. That is abusive because you're paying for a separate subscription for the substance apps, so they should give you permission to use them on any 2 devices you want, even if they are not the same devices that you use the other CC apps.
If it's a separate subscription it should be completely separate, with different launch app, different devices, everything.

Hey, newbie here, just discoving this suite of apps. I too have an individual account and I also thought this was part of my CC monthly purchased account. Or rather, was HOPING because as a packaging designer, I need more integration into the standard Illustrator/Photoshop set up I use. I am sure if you are also involved in this industry there is well known software that is already the industry standard. If Adobe hopes to rise to the needs or have superior capabilities, you would think they would offer this included into the CC family because people would switch over or begin to use it because its there. Specifically, if you want to maintain industry relevence, give your loyal costomers a reason to maintain our creative framework with Adobe. That said, there is also the thought because we have to be here- no other alternative software I can consider as a professional designer- I am a captive audience. That leaves a very bitter taste and I am not happy about this but will try to watch the bootcamp and then decide. It sucks because it's all just a power grab, and it's just another expense for a single freelancer like me. $50 a month on top of the $60 I pay for CC is just too much. If I had to pay could you make it like $10 a month add on? Anything like that?

Substance 3D Texturing should be a part of “All Programs”! This is not OK Adobe...

We don’t need any of the ‘web apps’, like 3D Assets, 100 GB storage, fonts etc. just the basic Substance Tools for doing creative texturing just as we have done in PhotoShop since back in the days 25 years ago!

Adobe pulled the deal I already had with Allegorithmic, then I was hopeful it should benefit me as an Adobe customer later… but the tools never showed up in my “All Programs”- subscription, it sucks... I really had the idea that I was paying for Adobes All Programs for Creatives.  "All Programs" yeah sure….

Adobe could have made me a ‘happy customer’ here, but Adobe chose to maximize the profit instead of the user experience.

I’ll create my own software! 😝

What I find a little sad is that as a motion designer, in the creative cloud "All Apps" plan I do not use all apps. For example I never installed Adobe XD, Dreamweaver or Dimension. But I'd love to have Substance painter for example. Why can't I swap it with the apps I don't use? What would be great is a bundle, at a similar price as the creative "all apps" plan which would include substance apps with video and photography apps, and exclude the web design apps. Or whatever Adobe could come up with. But it feels so unfair to have to pay extra for apps you need while Apps you don't need are in the Creative plan. 

I agree that Substance 3D Texturing also should be a part of the "CC all programs" package! Right or not, but the fact that it's not included, and I must buy another plan, makes me feel tricked.

When I pay my monthly plan, year after year, I also expect Adobe to use a part of that revenue to create new tools. So it's comparable to, if Adobe made a new Photoshop with 3D-paint, that was not included...

I have been using Photoshop for creating textures to my 3D works since ~1996, so for me Adobe and 3D has always went hand in hand.

This is so dissappointing. I was so happy to be able to use and learn this programs under my All Apps subscription. I agree, the name of the subscription is misleading.

I agree with this. I've been using Blender which is free, but I have a CC account. I thought.. hmm why not try an Adobe 3D program, (even though we all know blender/cinema 4d is better.)

Found out it isnt included in CC plan. If I'm going to buy an app it's going to be cinema 4d, octane, or unreal engine, z brush, Houdini, sketchup, Maya, 3ds max, or any open source app. 

Not a good move Adobe!  

Adobe "CC All apps" is all Creative Cloud apps. It has never included all Adobe apps - for example Adobe Captivate and Adobe Framemaker are separate applications outside of the Creative Cloud group. So having a separate suite, in this case for 3D, is not unprecedented.

Dave

Thank you for your feedback.
The 3D offer is a separate offer from  'Creative Cloud All Apps', it is a new offer and quite unique for 3D.
We will forward your feedback about the apps your are using most.