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Tangent001
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June 25, 2022
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Roe v. Wade Decision

  • June 25, 2022
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Thank you for taking the initiative to support women who may need to travel to different states to exercise their rights to control their own reproductive choices. Adobe has always been a technology leader and I am grateful you are stepping up to address a grievous wrong. I've always been a loyal Adobe user and will continue to do so.

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    Ricky336
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    July 8, 2022

    This whole thread is way better than an watching an America soap opera like "Days of Our Lives" or an episode from "Dynasty" or a tele  novella!

    Except this is real life. United we stand, divided we fall! The US is falling it seems.

    Even here opinions are like the Grand Canyon!

     

    Vote purple 😀

    The thing with talking about politics is that people always get their knickers in a twist! (UK saying)

     

    Nancy OShea
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    July 8, 2022
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    The US is falling it seems.


    By @Ricky336

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    To that I can only say,  #10 Downing Street

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boris-johnson-resignation-why-was-he-forced-to-resign/

     

    If we forced every politician out of office who boozed it up at parties, or hired someone accused of s*xual misconduct, there'd be nobody on either side.  🤣  Just saying...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_States

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Ricky336
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    July 9, 2022

    Exiting times isn't it!!😄

    With BJ though this incident was the straw that broke the camel's back.

    The wonderful world of politics😃😃😃👍

    Ricky336
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    July 6, 2022

    This is likely to become a  never-ending story...shows how people can get divided over issues that get overblown. (Depends on which side of the fence one sits on.) Although this is an important issue, are mountains being made out of molehills? (It seems like that.) I don't live in the states, so I can't really say anything about this issue, (the media representation also depends on the viewpoint they want to promote) suffice to say that opinions are getting so divided, that the chasm is like the Grand Canyon! 

    JR Boulay
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    July 6, 2022

    Inter-racial marriage has never been banned and has never been a problem here, even if you go back 500 years.
    People do what they want.

    In France, racism is not an opinion, it is a criminal offence punishable by heavy penalties.

    Acrobate du PDF, InDesigner et Photoshopographe
    JR Boulay
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    July 5, 2022

    I don't want to discuss the delay but just to specify that it is not "French", it is the one recommended by the EU which has been applied in order to harmonize.

     

    If you know France well you should know two things:
    - the law provides for so many exceptions (vaguely defined) that in practice the delay is not often a problem. 😉
    - in public hospitals it is completely free, for all, without exception. Even for uninsured foreigners.



    "And what a disgusting not to mention inaccurate and over the top illustration."

    This is the principle of the caricature.

    🙂

     

     

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    Leslie Moak Murray
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    July 5, 2022

    We also have exceptions here. And as I said, I'm personally pro-choice. All I'm saying is that this stupid hysteria with these idiot women at protests looking like a bunch of escaped mental patients, acting like it's the Handmaid's Tale, are not helping. It just makes us look bad. There are just too many nitwits on both sides of this issue. I'm just as put off by the Republicans who rhapsodize about the Bible and "murdering babies" etc.  All the Supreme Court did is to say that this issue does not belong with the federal government and handed it back to the states. This "right" simply is not in the Constituition and never was. This is how it always was before Roe, and women simply drove to another state. I personally know women who did that. And nobody acted like they were living under Sharia law or something for petes sake.

     

    But now they're acting like a woman would have to fly to the planet Venus to get an abortion and it is just not true. I just think there are too many people who seem to need a cause, a reason to be irate and protest and block traffic and feel like they've "Made a Difference."  All I'm saying is that this is not a very good one. And I'm also saying that Miss Coco has a very flawed understanding of our Constitution (and so, apparently, do a lot of Americans). In addition to that, though, I hope you can understand why seeing our flag desecrated in this repulsive manner by a foreigner is especially repugnant to me.

     

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    Leslie Moak Murray
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    July 5, 2022

    Is this who you want to be associated with? I sure don't.

     

    [Provocative photos redacted by moderator.]

     

    NOTE:  These communities are for all ages, please let's keep this family-friendly.

     

     

    Leslie Moak Murray
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    July 4, 2022

    You guys. I'm pro-choice but Roe was always on shaky constitutional grounds (so is Obergefell). It was passed by an activist court and has always been vuinerable. All the court did is to say that the federal government has no place in it and that they're handing it back to the states where it belongs and where it always was before. Nobody is banning abortion. Before Roe, it was illegal in my state, and people just drove across the state line to do this.

     

    And as for la Libération, hate to tell them but France has a 14-week abortion ban. A total BAN nationwide. That is not what we're doing here.  And before 2021 it was 10 weeks. They only extended it to 12 weeks last year and only very recently to 14 weeks. Frenchwomen have to travel ABROAD to get abortions. And they do so. And here we are losing it because we have to drive to another state, which is how it always was before.  I went to school in France briefly and worked for Air France for 11 years and went there al the time so I am sorry but  have to laugh sometimes. And what a disgusting not to mention inaccurate and over the top illustration. EW. Now everybody just breathe. I'm sure there are actual causes you can devote yourselves to if you need one so badly.

    Tangent001
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    July 6, 2022

    Several states have trigger laws that will ban elective abortion entirely, many without any exceptions for sexual assault resulting in conception or incest.

    Nancy OShea
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    July 6, 2022
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    Several states have trigger laws that will ban elective abortion entirely, many without any exceptions for sexual assault resulting in conception or incest.


    By @Tangent001

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    You mean like this recent 10 year old incest victim in Ohio?

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    JR Boulay
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    July 4, 2022
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    Nancy OShea
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    June 27, 2022

    Since the ruling and even before it, corporations have stepped up to help cover  expenses for employees who must travel out of state to receive proper healthcare services.  Among them Redit, Tesla, Condé Nast, Google, Warner Bros, Disney, Meta, Starbucks, Johnson & Johnson, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Levi Strauss, Uber, Lyft, Zillow and many others. 

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/24/business/abortion-companies-travel-expenses.html

     

    Adobe, which had previously said its health care policy covered travel expenses for abortions, said: “We have and will always prioritize inclusive benefits to create a world-class culture for our employees.”

     

    Safe-harbor states like California, Oregon, Washington, Maryland, New York and Massachusetts have already begun ramping-up to accommodate the expected influx of patients traveling from red states.

     

    There is a proposal to issue federal travel vouchers and child care assistance to women who need to go out-of-state.  Another proposal could establish safe-harbor clinics on federal owned lands. 

     

    A small group of Democrats are also proposing a bill called the Health and Location Data Protection Act  -- a $1 billion federal push to keep women's medical and reproductive healthcare data private in a post-Roe world.  

     

    There's much work ahead.  And the minority wackadoodles can pound sand. 😬 

     

    Vote blue in 2022! 

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert