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Wishlist: Your Wish for Adobe's Next New Application

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June 8, 2016
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Welcome to the new Fourm Lounge where we can let down our hair and chat as designers and developers, peers. I'm Pariah Burke, your unofficial guide through this newly rechristened conversation space. Feel free to post anything in this forum you'd like to talk about with other creatives and programmers, anything that isn't "this broke" or "how do I make Application X do that".

Pull up a chair, pour yourself a glass of wine, a mug of stout, or cup of tea, and let's talk.

I'll get the ball rolling by asking a question:

What is the next application Adobe should make? Looking at all the applications in Creative Cloud (and beyond), what do you think is missing? What need do you see that Adobe could fill?

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Ursula5C58

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Hi,

I think it would be really important to maintain or bring back the option to import personal shortcuts to premiere pro 2021.

As a whole preset. (Like we had it in Premiere pro 2019) I really don't want to define every single personal shortcut after an update. (For the time being I stick to Premiere pro 2019;)

Thanks a lot and best regards.

Ursula Schmidt

R Neil Haugen

Legend

I have all my personal shortcuts in PrPro 2020 and 2021 ... so something is off in your computer, and my guess is it would be a permissions issue or perhaps (as I ran into!) it's an issue with a cloud service like MS OneDrive (or whatever it's called).

That re-encapsulated all my "user/x/x" folders to itself ... and as it kept refreshing them, to the Adobe apps, they were unavailable for storage. So every launch, they'd look for the file ... couldn't find it ... and create a new one as they are programmed.

It took me nearly a day to fully kill OneDrive from my desktop.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

I don't wish to rain on anyone's parade here. But this thread is from 2016! A lot has changed since then.

Feel free to submit your feature requests to UserVoice where the appropriate product engineers will see them.

https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/how-to-user-voice.html

If enough other users agree with your idea and it's viable, Adobe may add it to a future release version.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

Sockratease

Inspiring

OK, I guess I'll put my head on the block so you can all kick it around a bit.

Does anybody else see a need for a font editor / creation tool?

I had a trial of one years ago, but it was super expensive! I made some fun stuff though.

Once something is in ttf or otf format it can be used in many other programs - yes, even non-adobe programs!

I use fonts in my 3D Software, and (here it comes!) I even have a fractal generator that uses fonts as source material

I know designers are always tweaking fonts after they are rasterized, but the idea of making one's own has always been fun.

I may be the only one interested in this idea, but maybe not. I suppose the best way to find out is to mention it here.

Pariah Burke

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Community Expert

There is definitely a need for a font editor, but I don't think Adobe could do a better job than FontLab. I doubt anyone at Adobe would think Adobe could do a better job than FontLab, either.

Sockratease

Inspiring

I know there are a lot of them out there (but there are a lot of image and video editors too - but adobe still makes them) so I'll suggest it anyhow...

How about a Fractal Generator?

Fractals have come a long way since the old days of Z = Z^2 + C (The Classic Mandelbrot Set). We now have The Mandelbox and Mandelbulb for the 3D World, and with the advent of Perturbation Theory we can do insanely deep zooms into the M Set well past e10,000 with render times measured in minutes or hours instead of days or weeks like they would have needed just a few years ago.

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OK, now that I've lost a lot of people, I suggest doing a web search for the word "Fractal" and seek images. Fractals and Fractal Generators are one of my many "Secret Weapons" for making nice royalty free patterns and backgrounds. Fractals are deeply rooted in the very nature of existence, so to not have a really high end one (such as the team at adobe could surely create) is odd. Yes, there are many free and open source ones out there, but there is always room for improvement. And yes, the commercially available UltraFractal is hard to beat (but it's interface is troublesome for the non-mathematicians out there). I just can't help but wonder what a big budget company could do with one.

The programs can even be used as image editors! I'll post one or two in my stuff here as examples. Not sure if anybody else cares, but posting this bit is a good way to find out

Cactus Cowboy

Inspiring

Ahh phooey, you don't need a whole program just for generating fractals; just a well coded plugin will do that and they're out there already. Besides, just how often does one use fractals in anything that anyone notices for that matter. A program like that would be a waste of money for Adobe and a commercial loser...well maybe you'd buy it and then complain about how it doesn't do this or don't do that!

As for me, I'd just like to sit in on one of Adobe's department brainstorming sessions or two or maybe a board meeting just to see what the hell they discuss and do with all the tons of cash they've made off of us all these many years. They need to whip those programmers into line and start paying attention to what and how they're coding. To much grab-ass over there and it's really starting to show up in what they're delivering for the price!

Sockratease

Inspiring

I hear your phooey I reply poo-poo and hubba-hubba! To say nothing of piffle!

Just because you can't see the potential does not mean it doesn't exist.

I use fractals in practically every project I do. I have worked them into art on websites for everything from churches to pornography. In fact, I may have been the first to use them in Naughty Adult Content over a decade ago.

They work far better than you think.

If, as you claim, they are not that hard to make then that is obviously an argument in favor of having one - not a reason to overlook them. After all, the more resources we have, the better we are at our trade.

I have seen many of those plugins and they are all bare bones and extremely limited. I've yet to see one with the ability to make hybrids, map images into orbit traps, or allow for use of animated texturing of 3D Fractals.

Fractal landscapes appear in everything from video games to Star Wars movies. I think that alone proves their worth in a production environment.

But since you are a skeptic after my own heart, I'll keep on going! Here is an image I did in a fractal generator for a model's website (and she loved it, not to mention eventually becoming the woman I wound up spending my life with).

That is just a single example of the literally infinite possibilities when using fractal generators with pictures (I just used that one because it's special to me). I even have that one animated. I never rendered it in great quality since it was just for fun, but here is a link if anyone cares to waste a minute or 2 watching it:

http://vid106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/sockratease/slices2.mp4

Dismissing them outright is not something you'd do if you were aware of the extent of their potential.

If most of those programs are single person to small volunteer teams, I strongly suspect that if adobe threw money at development that they may just manage to take things to an even higher level. Possibly even enough to convince you that you could well be mistaken in your abrupt dismissal of the idea.

They could allow for immersion with 3D obj files and rigged figures could interact with the fractal environment in full 3D making use of distance estimate calculations and collision detection for a program capable of full computer generated imagery movie making. Not all of us use real cameras or even real humans in our work. I actually hate working with humans and real world lighting (except for porn!). Real people all too often just do whatever they want. Full cgi is far easier to control.

Liam Dilley

Inspiring

You know, for me. I do not want to see any new software.

At the end of the day most of the most used software are modified and updated but still share the same code base, legacy code and features. Across the board these hinder the apps causing them to be to big in file size, poor performing and well... Bulky.

Other software now matching Photoshop for features in many regards or with more features, new and well presented run well on a mac without even tapping into the graphics card heavily to operate etc. Still prefer photoshop to many out there but credit where it is due... Modern image manipulation applications etc run better.

Illustrator is even worse and even on the best Mac's when you have illustrator and photoshop open along with a few other apps, your web browsers.. Trouble happens.

People are still trying to turn to font management tools to not take 2 days to load an Adobe product trying to load fonts in an old school clunky way.

I would much prefer see a series of revisits to applications from Adobe. Take Photoshop, build it to what it is today but from the ground up, modern structures, optimised, good perfomance and features in a scalable solution for more awesome updates.

Do that for other applications as well.

For Dreamweaver - It is time to retire it. Keep it but do nothing more to it. I think this is to much to save. Use what Brackets has formed with the community, replace both the coding apps in CC with a new application, again taking Brackets but developing a ground work.

You do not need the design mode stuff in Dreamweaver any more. If basic designers want to do something that produces SOME form of code to make a site - Muse is there.

Even Atom from Git has come along way fast as a coding platform with great community plugins and support. Adobe embraces the Design world but Design and Code come hand in hand for many things, even animation.

A well rounded, great looking and feature rich coding platform from Adobe being able to pull assets in from photoshop in a smooth and effecient way (which DW simply isnt) that takes queues from Coda, Sublime, Atom etc.

I think they have all the apps, TO many in fact, some can be combine, but its time to focus on optimisation and performance.

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

Liam Dilley wrote:
For Dreamweaver - It is time to retire it. Keep it but do nothing more to it. I think this is to much to save. Use what Brackets has formed with the community, replace both the coding apps in CC with a new application, again taking Brackets but developing a ground work.
You do not need the design mode stuff in Dreamweaver any more. If basic designers want to do something that produces SOME form of code to make a site - Muse is there.

Muse is not capable of supporting advanced programming features. And if you've ever used MU, you already know the code is a devil to work with in any other code editor but MU.

Since Macromedia days, DW has appealed to both coders and designers. I don't think it's reasonable to take anything away from either camp. However, If you haven't already, please take a thorough look at the public Beta release that's currently available through the pre-release site. Use your Adobe ID and password to access it. You might be pleasantly surprised by Brackets integration plus many other features both coders and designers have been asking for.

Welcome all! Dreamweaver beta is now live!

Nancy O.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

Liam Dilley

Inspiring

Nancy, that is what I was referring too.
To develop a replacement for Dreamweaver with the foundation of the brackets work that does not include the out dated design features. There is another application that does that basic click draw site stuff - Muse.
There are different target audiences, trying to do all in one does not work.

I have seen the beta for Dreamweaver, I feel it is a real mess.. Seeing that was one of the justifications for my post. Even Komodo edit, which I am not a fan did a rebuild to meat modern developer requirements (http://komodoide.com/komodo-edit/

I am still not a fan but it does more in terms of modern best practices then the DW beta.

Visual studio has a lot more to it then DW and for me Microsoft are doing a lot with the UI etc and doing a better job.
The screenshot used to preview the demo does more harm then good. It shows an attempt at a clean UI while actually being extremely cluttered, scattered and all over the place.

Based on several best coding apps 2015 and 2016 and surveys I have seen DW continues to fall and I do not see that changing.
While Photoshop has seen good improvements but still has the slow codebase that needs sorting, DW is one of the applications that just needs to be re-done front and back.

kre57

Inspiring

As a Premiere Pro user, I would prefer to see fewer new features and more focus on fixing bugs.

John Waller

Community Expert

Hard to convince the marketing department of those priorities.

Adobe still has to sell software subscriptions and compete in the market against other vendors who will always add new features. Hardening PP and fixing bugs is a given for most users.

kre57

Inspiring

I understand that but it seems like the balance is a bit off at the moment. It may just be my perception but from past visits to the support forum I have seen many other who share it. You have to support the customers you currently have to keep them, correct? That seems like a priority to me.

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

Not sure we need a separate app for this but I think it's time to support Base64 encoding in Dreamweaver, Illustrator, Photoshop, Animate, Muse, etc...

For anyone who doesn't know what the heck I'm talking about:

Base64 encoding images for faster pages | Performance and seo factors

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

K´mo

Participating Frequently

I wish some kind of 3D software where you can build intermediate level meshes fast with UV's so you could visualize your graphics to clients. I work with many kinds of products where the final graphics are on curved surface. And it would be great if you could also plan a whole room with these products. Including lighting.

Szalam

Community Expert

K´mo wrote:
I wish some kind of 3D software where you can build intermediate level meshes fast with UV's so you could visualize your graphics to clients. I work with many kinds of products where the final graphics are on curved surface. And it would be great if you could also plan a whole room with these products. Including lighting.

After Effects comes with Cinema 4D Lite included.

This training series shows some of what it can do.

You can do what you're describing in it.

K´mo

Participating Frequently

I didn't know that! Thanks for the tip, I have to take a look at it

Joseph Labrecque

Community Expert

This might be a cheat answer... but I really wish they'd build an Android version of Spark Post

Yeah, not a "new" app per se... but yeah.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Hmmm ... a few things, of course!

Before continuing, Adobe makes so many apps, and rather than new ones, I think re-building some of their current Whiz Kid Ideas would be incredible for me.

First, I SO agree with John above ... a new DVD/Blu-Ray authoring program would be SO useful. Sigh.

Next, perhaps another Quixotic-adventure, making a "real" grading app if SpeedGrade isn't going to be brought along. The Lumetri color panel within PrPro 2015 is really pretty cool but not something that compares even with SpeedGrade, not even "where it's at" (having been left behind with no development the last year) as far as range of controls/capabilities/SPEED of doing things.

The 2016 release will bring the Lumetri panel a long way along, and I'm thrilled with it, it's very useful in many workflows, and I do NOT want to sound like I'm disagreeing with that work.

BUT ... there's such a huge jump in what you can do within even 2016 Lumetri to say, Resolve ... that many of our peers & clients are having to do all the time consuming detailed tech work to export projects for grading and then re-conform afterwards.

The entire idea of the Direct Link from PrPro to a grading app is AWESOMENESS DEFINED! I just wish they'd build a real grading app ... or update SpeedGrade a ton. Yuck, but I HATE prepping to go to "R" and return. So I stick almost always with Sg ...

That last idea might have just as much legs as an idea as John's but there it is.

Last thing on the first pop into the brain ... really work with CAPTURE!

That is the coolest little app, I'm having a blast creating intriguingly different "looks" as starting points for video colorist/grading work. It keeps each project different ... yet believable. For many I've talked with, it ... surprises them. Not good surprise, but in the ... huh ... um, now what do I do? sort of way. Yet with a bit of futzing, it's really a nifty speedy little tool.

Hmmm ... other ideas do percolate ...

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

Bob Howes

Inspiring

I come from the audio side of things and I wish they'd make (or buy) a MIDI sequencing programme. This would probably want to be a stand alone build but want to link seamlessly to Audition and maybe Premiere Pro. MIDI isn't just for making music...it's also great for creating sound effects for use in your video and audio projects. Everyone needs a good "Swish" or "Swoop" or "Ominous drone" from time to time!

John T Smith

Community Expert

A home grown replacement for Encore, now that Adobe is no longer allowed to port Encore forward to the Cloud version

-CS6 is the final Encore, see #8 here for why http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1337952?tstart=0

I'm sure this is LOW on Adobe's list, since it hasn't happened since CS6, but there are people who still need to create a DVD or BluRay, and installing Encore on new computers and operating systems is being increasingly problematic

-Getting Encore instructions, Cloud or serial number version https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1992717

Kat Gilbert

Legend

What I wish for is in the works... 3D app!

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