You might consider the very affordable add-on Elements+ which has a script for that purpose: https://elementsplus.net/help/en/save-for-web-all.htm ... View more

Thanks. I might break down and get PSE 2023 even if it does have to limpalong with Rosetta.Fyi, PSE2022 v20.0 April 2022, ported to the M2 Mac OS13 from an Intel MacOS12, invoked Rosetta, ran normally once, and persistently locks up on thetouchy-feely home screen, unable to invoke the editor even after re-starts.I de-installed it and declined to download again, for now anyway.I'm using PSE8 on a 2010 Mac offline and sneakernet-flashdrive for things Icannot do with Apple Pictures (and color correction in a way that workedfor 14+ years but vanished from the 64-bit versions). By @John24677717q2h3   Hi John, I hope you don't mind a Windows user to take part in your conversation... At least on Windows, the equivalent of  'color variations' is still there in the appropriate 'Quick view' which is targetted to beginners. Just select the 'color' section on the right panel. The reason it was  taken down in the 'expert' view is that it was practically no longer used because there are now many more more correction tools which are faster and more precise, including editing in camera raw. Most flexible and precise tools, including for batch color correction of photos taken in the same lighting conditions. My personal view is that color variations don't help at all new users to understand lighting and lighting correction. Our mileage may vary (working with PSE since 1999). ... View more

I have images in one folder. I backed that up and restored it to a different folder. Instead of having all the items in the new catalogue pointing to the new folder, some of them (only some of them) point to the old folder!  Is that not a weird thing to have happened? Surely the restore ought to have linked only to files in the new folder? By @Billy5FE5   Sorry if I am not able to give you a simple solution. To answer your question above: The drives and folders structure of your media files is recorded in the main database (catalog.pseXXdb) in the catalog folder. It's quite possible that there is an identification error for your drives in the current catalog. If so, creating a backup will reproduce the same error. The backup folder will contain two components which can reproduce both the volumes identification and the media folder tree structure: - a renamed copy of the catalog.pseXXdb, now catalog.buc - a tly file: backup.tly which is a special text file recording the structure of the original media folders. So, if the error is already present in the catalog before the backup, it will be reproduced in the restored files.   Generally, if there is no error in your source catalog, you'll find no missing (disconnected) files and you'll see that the view of your folders will be the same in the Explorer and the 'folders view' in the organizer. Then the backup/restore will act as expected.   If there were errors prior to the backup, there is no 'miracle'  solution to correct them, even for expert users with sqlite commands knowledge (not my case). So, it depends if the number of missing files is important or not. You might select and delete the missing files; perhaps locate the missing folders, maybe move them to a known, safe location and import them again from there?     ... View more

Hi @josephunit2n  Thanks for the detailed answers to Greg's questions. I won't interfere with the debugging process with Greg, but I believe you are on the right track and that it will be possible to solve your issue. However, what you have already answered discloses a very important information:  it seems that your media files trees are subdirectories of the catalog folder. This should never happen. The media folder tree(s) and the catalog folder ideally should always be independent; at least, the media trees should never been included in or under the catalog folder. And that happens very naturally for users following the "default" locations offered by Adobe and Windows: - The catalog folder situated in a hidden system folder, not displayed in the Explorer unless you set the Explorer to show it. - The media folders being generally suggested in your preferences to be under the Windows 'Pictures' default category.   There are good reasons to choose 'custom' locations in your preferences for both your catalog location and the default importing or saving paths for your photos. - if the photo files are NOT included under the catalog folder, you can copy and move that folder where you want and the size of the catalog folder is not huge. Better for alternative backup solutions. - You can store your catalog folder beside the media folder (what I call the "library") in either external drive you choose, which enables acessing both from various computers by plugging them alternatively - provided the external drive is recognized with the same drive letter.   So, have a look at your organizer preferences to check where are the 'default' paths for storing new imported files and for saving them. Then decide where you want to store the catalog and the "library" folders.     ... View more

Hi @Billy5FE5    I think it's necessary to come back to your first post. "I was expecting that either: - PSE would take the location of the files relative to the location of the catalog and everything would work or - PSE would treat the links as absolute addresses and all of the files would be pointing to E: and have broken links".   1 - A catalog (which is a folder in PSE) can be copied or move nearly anywhere on various drives and folders;  it always keeps the location/description of the files it does link to in its database. The location of the catalogued files is totally independent from the location of the catalog file.   - PSE would treat the links as absolute addresses and all of the files would be pointing to E: and have broken links.   2 - PSE does treat the links as absolute addresses, but: a - the addresses in the database don't refer only to the drive letter name which can be changed by external factors as in your own case. Remember that when the organizer was created, most drives were floppy CDs and you could not expect a given CD to keep the same letter when other CDs or devices were plugged in. So the organizer conceptors chose to identify the drive primarily by the internal serial number of the drive as registered by Windows. So, in Windows, the drive is described by 3 properties, the drive letter, the internal serial number and the drive label as shown by the Explorer. The most reliable item is the internal serial number which nobody knows, but which is accessible through a DOS command. So, in many cases, the organizer is able to keep the link to the original drive even if its letter has changed. - b - In a backup/restore process, you can want to restore files situated in different drives, different folders or even from network locations.Users generally expect to restore on the same various locations as the original ones, or to a new common master folder, where different original drives are converted to new subfolders with the name of the drive. In that case, the addresses have to be updated to the new absolute location. Of course, to restore on various original drives, they must be available for the restore.   tip: the text command in Windows powershell to find the internal serial number is VOL X: to get the hexadecimal value of the drive with letter X.   In practice, to share an external drive containing both the catalog folder and the media files folder trees, it's best to use letters much farther from the usual a, b, c, d... like x, ky ,z. Don't forget that in the case of a backup/restore, the real addresses have to be updated to reflect your own choice between original or 'custom' location.       ... View more

I mean:  worried about catalog's stability, integrity, going forward - with source photo files some on C drive, some on intended (for active catalogs) external drive; PLUS, I've never seen, can't understand and do not like - that the same catalog "catalog.pse21db" is found on BOTH external catalog drive AND in same name catalog folder on C drive in the Adobe location (if I open that "catalog.pse21db" on the external drive, the catalog opens with many thumbnails not connected to files - I believe these are the ones stored on C drive;  if I open the same "catalog.pse21db" found in the folder of same catalog name, in the Adobe C drive default location, ALL photos appear, all thumbnails populated, and my random scan shows - as said - some source photo files are on that external drive, some on the C drive). By @josephunit2n     Hi @josephunit2n  Le us start with with a simple fact:  the file 'catalog.pse21db' is not a catalog. It's a a sqlite database file, the main component of a catalog. Catalogs are folders. The name of the catalog is the name of the folder. The 'catalog.pse21db' is the main sqlite database in the folder; there is another one:  thumbs5.cache which is used to store the thumbnails, as well as many other components working together the main database. the "pse21db" extension means the internal format of the database is built for the 21 version of PSE, called PSE 2023. That explains why double clicking that catalog.pse21db opens the organizer with the right flavour of the sqlite database structure and the correct organizer version. That also explains that any catalog database file of the same PSE version is always called the same. Going on further, it's a universal fact that if you have two identical copies of the same catalog, whether on paper or numerical form, they all link to the same data. Two or three copies of the same catalog of the Louvre museum will always indicate where is Mona Lisa situated even if they are stored in different houses. You can always copy or move catalog folders, their links stay identical, even if they are in differeint drives. That's a good thing, but it explains that you can have several unwanted catalog folders on various drives or folders with the same name. Of course, unless you want catalog folder backups, it is generall redundant and misleading. To answer your other question, you may delete unwanted folders directly from the explorer or from the catalog manager.   Before going further, I'd like to know if that makes things clearer now ?     ... View more

I want to use the Export function for the purpose of Export>Layers as files. (example export each individual layer as a png file). I can do that in Photoshop but not in Photoshop Elements. does Elements+ have a script that performs that particular Export function?/. I don't see that it does.   By @Desertrat   Yes, "Export layers as files" is available in the scripts section of Elements+. Scroll down in my previous link to the scripts list; https://elementsplus.net/help/en/layers-to-files.htm ... View more

Hi@josephunit2n  I am trying to find what is wrong with your issue. It seems to me that there is a misconception somewhere about catalog managements. I would start with asking what you mean by "One catalog's structure I do not like, want to correct. " Your general reasoning seems ok and it may help to better understand what you mean by "structure". Changing the location of files and file folder trees on different drives or master folders? ... View more

Hi. Greg, Michel. I´m here, lookin fordward to reading you again with your news. By @Rayo   HI @Rayo    Sorry for being late on this issue;  I have just moved to a vacation home and I am now ready to test catalogs, which may still take some time. ... View more

I was just wondering if after installing elements+ it resolved the issue of having the EXPORT function greyed out? By @Desertrat   Hi @Desertrat  As explained in that conversation, there is no issue with what you are calling the "EXPORT function" which is available under the command name "export as". The saving dialog box lets you choose your preferred file format and warns you if you are losing data (mainly layers) in the conversion process.   So, I don't see the point of adding a script to Elements+ since its goal is to implement missing features in Elements which may be available in Photoshop. Just have a look at the existing scripts: https://elementsplus.net/ ... View more

Hi MichelBParis Sorry for the delay in response, the team was closely looking into the possible issue and trying to resolve it. It took time since this issue is not reproducible at our end and we were investigating into all the possible causes of the same. 1. Can you please help us again by checking if you are now able to see the latest update on playstore , if you have not already updated ?  2. If it shows no update on playstore or you already updated it by now , what's the current version of your app ?  3. If the current version of your app is not 1.7.6.10 , can you please uninstall the app and reinstall it from playstore and then let us know what version is getting installed ? To check the version of your app :  Launch the app > Click on app icon on the top left of the app > Click on About app > Check the mentioned version on the top over there under What's new section By @nancy_maheshwari Hi Nancy, Thanks for the feedback. I think my problem is that I am on the French Android Playstore and the app is not yet hosted there. I first installed the first beta manually from links I got in the forums and unfortunately I don't remember exactly how... I have just uninstalled the old version and as the new version does not either appear on the store, could you remind me of the correct procedure to install new apps downloaded from your links? ... View more

You should be able to convert even very old PSE catalogs, see that tech doc. https://helpx.adobe.com/elements-organizer/kb/convert-organizer-catalog-elements-13-64.html   The oldest PSE versions up to and including PSE5 were based on a Microsoft Acess database engine, while all the subsequent versions used sqlite engine. On the other hand, PSE was updated to 64 bits with version 13.   If you have access to the catalog folder, search for the name of the main database. It can be catalog.psedb or catalog.pseXXdb. The XX indicates the version, for instance PSE2023 is version 21.   Can you find this important information? ... View more

Hi all, You might have a look at the well-known add-on from Andrei Doubrovki, Elements+   http://elementsplus.net/ Scroll down to the scripts, near the bottom. You'll see that the script to add "fade' to Elements seems to have been offered from PSE11;  this shows that all PSE old-timers are right in saying that the "fade" option has never been introduced up to now. I have had versions, 2,4,6,10 and all versions since PSE11 and most versions of Elements+. I must say that there are so many ways to simulate that effect that I never used Elements+ for that purpose. ... View more

should I restore the catalog structure first and then the catalog contents. By @kcgnj7491 No, the normal full backup not only saves the catalog AND your media files, but it also saves the links in the catalog to the new or old location of the media files depending on your choice.   This is a bit misleading, but what Adobe calls saving the structure is just making a copy of the catalog folder without the thumbnail cache. That kind of copy which you have been able to do yourself in your Explorer or Findier is very fast, contrary to a full backup. The dual purpose is to restore the catalog folder if it is missing or corrupted AND it's nearly automatic and fast depending on your settings. However, ONLY the full backup really can restore the structure of your media trees if your restore on a different computer or drive. If you have a backup system caring for the backup of your files, restoring the catalog structure may work only if the media files restore is performed without changing the new location. Otherwile the catalog will show all your media as "missing" or "disconnected". In that case, good luck with reconnecting all your files!     ... View more

Thanks - I did reconnect but was told photos already existed - but I couldn't see them. By @philipl61442014 I understand that you started the reconnecting process and got an error message. Reconnecting  is far from being intuitive and automatic, so I would need more info about that error message. Messages of this kind are more frequent when importing files than trying to reconnect them. I started up Elements 2023 and was asked if I wanted to convert the catalog found - I said yes. Can I start again somehow? Disconnect this catalog and get photos from folders instead - hoping that existing image tags come along with the photos (or are these only held in the Catalog?).   By @philipl61442014 You can always convert an old catalog again. Importing again would be a bad choice, since the tags, captions and albums/version sets are not stored by default in the files themselves. You might be able to recover only tags and captions you had voluntarily saved into the files. However, if you have found the real location of missing files and you have difficulties using the reconnect functions, try to move them from the Explorer to the recorded location in the catalog; in some cases, reimporting the found files may work (no guarantee...) ... View more

Add on question - I have not reconnected all files in the old program - can I do this once I have restored in the new program or must I go back, reconnect and do a full backup again (rather than incremental)? By @philipl61442014   Adobe does highly recommend to reconnect before backing up. On the other hand, in some cases, you may be lucky to reconnect successfully from the restored catalog and media. Think about it, what do you backup when you have missing files? - The whole catalog including the recorded location and properties of ALL items, even disconnected. - The list of  pictures to scan and copy for the backup can't include disconnected files.   The question now is: is it easier to reconnect before or after the restore? - if you restore in a new computer or drive, the missing/disconnected files may no longer be accessible. - If after the restore the missing files are still accessible, you may be able to reconnect all or part of them.           ... View more

Hi, Thank you for  your response. I tried and right clicked some photos on SD card.  It only shows the "copy" function, "no delete" "no rename". It does not let me select the file name so that I cannot rename. It seems the Adobe element is taking over the Windows Organize functions on SD card,  By @Kimi294362484phz   Hi Kimi, When I plug in my card reader with my SD card, that opens the Explorer view of Windows and I can navigate to the card reader and its DCIM folder where all the photos are selectable and can be moved where I want on my computer;   I suspect you may be right in thinking that the plug in action of the card reader is still incorrectly linked to the PSE Organizer. ... View more

Thank you very much for your advice. I don't need the Element Organizer to catalogue my photos. I have "many" external hard disks and I make folders, rename them, and cataloue myself. So I don't like anything automtic. I can do better than automatic. By @Kimi294362484phz   I don't do anything automatic with the organizer. I also manage many hard disks.  What I don't understand in your previous post is how you can't get the Windows Explorer (not an Organizer) to select your files, move, delete or rename files. Your purpose being to perform a preliminary 'culling' of your downloads, Windows can indeed perform those tasks very well. Remember that you are no longer using the Elements Organizer, You can select your batches of files and with a simple right click you have access to all the commands of the Explorer. I simply ignore the 'Organize' button of the explorer which can't do anything for your purpose. ... View more

Just as a matter of interest I've got the shortcuts for the Organiser and the Editor set up ok but I can't see the catalog/database anywhere. Not too fussed but I woud appreciate it if you could check that it is still the same for pse23. Cheers By @maroon hills To find the location of your catalog folder, In the organizer choose Help > System Information. The main database file "catalog.pse21db" if you are in PSE2023 is the important choice.   Good to know: you can double click that catalog.pse21db file to open the organizer with that catalog. ... View more

Is it possible to go directly into the organiser from a desktop icon, avoiding having to first enter by way of the "introductory" page which shows "Oganiser, Photo Editor, Video Editor " and all the other features on offer? By @maroon hills Same solution as for the editor:  create a desktop shortcut to the exe file of the organizer: By default C:> programmes > Adobe > Elements23 Organizer > PhotoshopElementsOrganizer.exe   You can even create such a desktop shortcut from the main database file in your chosen catalog folder: catalog.pse21db ... View more

You should be able to suppress the warning message about the ICC profile in the opening screen:   The Adobe Photoshop PDF format is a combined acrobat format with a true Photoshop PSD format. The advantage is that you can either open it like a simple Acrobat PDF format, in which case Elements first converts the printing format into an image format according to your choices, or you can open directly the PSD version with its layers and all attributes.   How do you open your PDF? From the menu Open or... Does the PDF open in the free Acrobat reader? ... View more

Hi @Rayo  I am also following this discussion and trying to keep in mind all the details. The translation task is just slowing down my understanding but in the end, I can follow all your steps. @Greg_S.  I think the problem with the file structure is because you chose to restore the existing structure.  Since that contains duplicate file folders, the existing problem remains.  I think I would try the other option.  In other words, do not check the box:   I will ping @MichelBParis to see whether he agrees with me about this. By @Greg_S.   I am not sure the other options would work. I'll have to make tests and come back with the results. ... View more

Greg is right that there is no difference in the Camera Raw dialog on Windows 10 and ACR 14.4. That's the simplest way to be guided to many variations of conversions to black and white. From the online help called from the ACR dialog help icon: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/using/processing-camera-raw-image-files.html#main-pars_heading_1   Keep in mind that: 1 - your camera provides "raw" data (photo sites light intensity, not colours) filtered through an array of colour filters. That raw data has potential ability to recreate colours after conversion according to your choices. Unless you are using custom-made camera sensors, you always shoot raw for colour output. There is no Black/White raw NEF file, there is a common raw file which can be processed in either way.   2 - You can always "remove" colour from a file in any photo (not raw) format. That's the process which is being used to get black and white output from a raw file. The raw data is first processed into a virtual colour image, which is converted to black and white. The Nikon software uses your choice of style and directly shows a converted version, the ACR version needs you to tell which possible style you want (as shown by Greg).   Note that you can convert any image to black and white in the main editing dialog by pushing back the saturation slider to zero to the left. ... View more

Thank you for your advice but I want to use the Windows file organizer. Because I have been using it for long time and I know how to use it. I don't want to use any other program to organize files. By @Kimi294362484phz   As I said earlier, there is no harm to use only the Windows Explorer as your personal organizer. A lot of users are happy with that and they have none of the problems you are showing with the Windows organizer. They are all using the solution of a shortcut on their desktop and they are not using the organizer downloader, they use only the Explorer to download the files from the SD card.   The screenshot you are showing is the way the organizer lets you select the files you want to import, which means both to download them to your computer and to register and document them in the catalog database. For that selection task, the organizer displays directly the Windows Explorer view. Keep in mind that the purpose is only for selecting the files, not for other tasks you could ask for if you were in the Explorer outside of the PSE downloader. The logical way to import photos from a card reader is to plug in the card reader or to browse the Explorer view for the DCIM folder of your reader. It seems that in your case the Windows action associated with plugging in the card reader is to open the Organizer downloader instead of the normal downloading function of the organizer. Could you confirm if that is your problem?  That would help other volunteers to guide you with the Windows process to change that default action. ... View more

Hi @Kimi294362484phz  Let's be clear, there is no harm in ignoring the organizer and using only the Windows Explorer as your "organizer". Just follow the very old solution given by Greg (known since PSE11...) Go once in the PSE organizer and disable all automatic options and when saving files from the editor, don't tick the options to register in the organizer. However, you'll lose all the benefits of the organizer, which can do what you are used to do in the Windows Explorer and much more, especially in terms of searching and grouping.   Hi, Moreover I discovered after this element organizer I cannot use windown organizer function of (1) move to (2) copy to (3) Delete, and (4) Rename. these area of windows organizer icons became grey. I cannot use them. It seems adobe want us to use the element organizer for these functions. By @Kimi294362484phz   It seems you have misunderstood the above restrictions. It's repeated everywhere that the golden rule for the organizer is to never use the Windows Explorer to move, delete or rename. First, that does not change anything in the Explorer and does not trouble you if you don't use the Organizer. It's simply that if you are using two cataloguing systems, what you do in one is ignored by the other. Simple basic truth. That's equally true if you are using two distinct organizer catalogs to manage the same files, if you are using the organizer and Lightroom, even competiting asset managers... So, you are right, Adobe want you to be happy with the organizer but it's your choice.   ... View more

Also see the list of supported cameras including some Dimage types: https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html Scroll down to Konica Minolta. ... View more

A possible explanation: It happens that the keyword category has been dragged and dropped inadvertently over an existing other category. Did you try the advanced search by entering the keyword in the text search line on top of the search page? ... View more