Hi Norio, my problem with the StartupShutdownService is fixed now. I may add an own menu with three sub items with the IMenuManager form the Startup()-method sucessfully. Now I want to read an parse an provided XML-Order-file by selecting the respective sub item of the named menu. Therefor I'd like the xmlcataloghandler sample with some adaptions(e.g. I will not need the samples StartupShutdownService. I've copyed most of the sample files to my project source folder, added the type declarations from XCatHnd.h to my UIEID.h-file, retyped all the header-names at the sample files from XCatHnd.h to UIEID.h. But now I get Typeredefintion errors. What is the best way to incorporate the xmlcataloghandler sample into may project? That question is a new one. Regards Jochen Seliger Norio Kawamura <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 7. Juli 2016 um 02:16 geschrieben: Norio Kawamura created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8860833#8860833 > ... View more

Hi Norio, I've can now add my own menu with serveral sub items to the ID main menu. Now I've two further questions. 1. How to get the signal from the different ID File Save events? 2. As I want to invoke the FileHelper + XML-Parser from my menu sub item, I need to include the xmlcataloghandler sample into my plug-in. As I do not nedd its StartupShutdownService, I suddenly do not need al its files. What is the best approach to incorporate the required functionality into my own plug-in? Kind regards Jochen Seliger Norio Kawamura <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 29. Juni 2016 um 01:29 geschrieben: Norio Kawamura created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8843506#8843506 > ... View more

Hi Norio, as I had lost of problems with ID-versions, SDK's an VS-Compilers since I started the reimplementation of our plug-in, I was not clear where to start. At the xmlcataloghandler sample I'd added a cout << "No FileHelper got"; to the alternative branch of that one, where the FileHelper should be called. This output was not shown. Our work flow solution, we need the plug-in for, is coded in JAVA. So I'm not an experienced C++ developer. Obviousely I was confused, due to that fact. After adding CAlert::ModalAlert statements before the FileHelper-Existing-test and to all the logical branches, I get the messages at Plug-in's 'starting startup services' stage. Our own plug-in is build based on the xmlcataloghandler sample. The only difference shall be, that at startup will be added an own menu to ID's main menu bar and the fileHelper shall be colled from the respective sub item of our menu. But at the moment noc output is hown at 'starting startup services' stage. Seems that at Boss Class declaration and the following linkage of the inplementing file/class to the calling code is broken. I've compared our code with the xmlcataloghandler, but can not find out, what is wrong. I'm not really clear which items(declerations and references) will have to be set at which files/classe and where to use own declareted variables and where variables created by the Adobe code. May you provide me the logical desciption for, or may I send you our UIE-plug-in-source and ask you to have a look at, to fix the problem? I've contacted Bartek Kropaczewski concernig that request, but he did not receive the zip-file, I've sent him. I'll first try to transfer the zip-file to Bartek. If that will fail definitly, I'll come back to you, if you aggree. Kind regards Jochen Seliger Norio Kawamura <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 29. Juni 2016 um 01:29 geschrieben: Norio Kawamura created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8843506#8843506 > ... View more

Hi Manan, I've asked Norio from which codesegement ho called the CAllert. He wrote me that at his sample no FileHelper call is called. But at my SDK sampel it is implemented at the StartupShutdownService::Startup()-method. That FileHelper is not by Norios plug-in. Either you or Notion will check if really the code of the CS2 SDK at your site differs from my site (btw. if at that sample no FileHelper-call is not coded at the Startup()-method, it's under question why the StartupShutdownService is implemented at all at your sample), or Norion will send me the source code from your SDK version. On my oppionion there is a lack in between. Kind regards Jochen Seliger Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 28. Juni 2016 um 12:36 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8841182#8841182 > ... View more

Hi Norio, thats at least a little success. At Plug-In registering your massage is shown. But did you show this message from the registering package or from the StartupShutdownService::Startup()-method? At least at my CS2 SDK sample the call of the FileHelper is coded into the named Startup()-method. That dialog is not shown by your plug-in. May be the failure is placed after your message. Could you please look at the StartupShutdowService::Startup()-method in case you did not call your message from that message. But anyway it were strange, if your xmlcataloghandle sample did not implement the call of the FileHelper at startup. If all is that way confused i ask you to send my your xmlcataloghandler sources. Kind regerds Jochen Seliger Norio Kawamura <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 28. Juni 2016 um 10:16 geschrieben: Norio Kawamura created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8841002#8841002 > ... View more

Hi Norio, the link did not work for me. Could you please send me the resulting plug-in for xmlcataloghandler to jochen.seliger@flowcontrol.org, if your plug-in is really showing the FileHelper-Dialog. Kind regards Jochen Seliger Norio Kawamura <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 28. Juni 2016 um 04:11 geschrieben: Norio Kawamura created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8840585#8840585 > ... View more

Hi Manan, as I remember right, I've send you my UIE.pln. Did you load it to you ID CS2? The 'invald' error is also thrown when the file extention is wrong. May be you did not configure the properties at the VS-IDE right. Or sould I send you my UIE.pln again. That test will probalbly only show, that the StartupShutdownService-error is now present at CS2 after beining correct at a previus release of CS2. BTW: Where the cout << "XYZ" from the plug-in should be shown? Kind regards Jochen Seliger Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 28. Juni 2016 um 00:09 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8840252#8840252 > ... View more

Hi Dialog, The check ot used variables is not anouth to answer the question, if the StartupShurdownService is working at all. The xmlcataloghandler sampel shold show the FileHelper-Dialog at Plug-in-resistration. The invocation of The FilHlpwer is build into the StartupShutdownServeice::Startup()-Method. During the plug-in registration procedure there are logged several steps. One of the lates is logged as 'executing startup services'. At that step the shown abowe Startup()-method should be executed. In the case of the build xmlcataloghandler plug-in, loaded into ID (CS2 in my current case) the FileHelper-dialog should be shown. Did you build the release-plug-in, or may you do it? Is the FlleHelper shown in your case? In my case it is'nt and my own plug-in, implementing the StartupShutdownService similar to the xmlcataloghandler sample does not show the dialog (message)implemented into ths Starup()-method . As we urgently are needing a startpoint, any really working case of SDK-version + ID could be helpful for us. But definitly the StartupShutdownService::Startup()-method execution is required!!! Kind regards Jochen Seliger Dirk Becker <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 27. Juni 2016 um 21:39 geschrieben: Dirk Becker created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8839719#8839719 > ... View more

Hi Manan, Did you receive my SDK-mail? Did you installe it? Do you have consider my reommendation concernig synchonous selection at the top menu choice ad via the pull down menu for either 'debuggin' or'release? Could you register the resulting plug-in? Does that plug-in (in case, is is valide) show the FileHelper-Dialog. That sampel shold show the FileHelper-Dialog at Plug-in-resistration. The invocation of The FilHlpwer is build into the StartupShutdownServeice::Startup()-Method. During the plug-in registration procedure there are logged several steps. One of the lates is logged as 'executing startup services'. At that step the shown abowe Startup()-method should be executed. In the case of the build xmlcataloghandler the FileHelper-dialog should be shown. Is it shown in your case? In my case it is'nt and my own plug-in, implementing the StartupShutdownService similar to the xmlcataloghandler sample does not show the implemented into ths Starup()-method dialog (message). As we urgently are needing a startpoint, any really working case of SDK-version + ID could be helpful for us. But definitly the StartupShutdownService::Startup()-method execution is required!!! Kind regards Jochen Seliger Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 28. Juni 2016 um 00:09 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8840252#8840252 > ... View more

Hi Nurio, the buildi allone is not anoth. This sampel shold show the FileHelper-Dialog at Plug-in-resistration. The invocation is build into the StartupShutdownServeice::Startup()-Method. Duering the plug-in registration procedure there are loged several steps. One of the lates is logged as 'executing startup services'. At that step the shown abowe Startup()-method should be executed. In the case of the build xmlcataloghandler the FileHelper-dialof should be shown. Is it shown in your case? In my case it is'nt and my own plug-in, implementing the StartupShutdownService similar to the xmlcataloghandler sample does not show the implemented into ths Starup()-method dialog (message). As we urgently are needing a startpoint, any really working case of SDK-version + ID could be helpful for us. But definitly the StartupShutdownService::Startup()-method execution is required!!! Kind regards Jochen Seliger Norio Kawamura <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 28. Juni 2016 um 04:11 geschrieben: Norio Kawamura created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8840585#8840585 > ... View more

Hi Manan, does it make sence to send you my compilations (plug-ins) of my own CS2 plug-in and the plug-in build from the CS2 xmlcataloghandler sample? Jochen Seliger Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 25. Juni 2016 um 00:00 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8835251#8835251 > ... View more

Hi Manan, I'm waiting for your error messages. regards Jochen Seliger Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 25. Juni 2016 um 00:00 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8835251#8835251 > ... View more

Hi Dirk, you should build the xmlcataloghandler sample, to check if the implemeted popup of the FileHelper will be shown. In my case it was not shown. And no cout << "XYZ" and no CAlert::ModalAlert was shown, obviusely because the Statrup()-method was not executed. That is the failure!! Kind regards Jochen Seliger Dirk Becker <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 27. Juni 2016 um 21:39 geschrieben: Dirk Becker created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8839719#8839719 > ... View more

Hi Dirk, I've checked my test of the xmlcataloghandler sample. There is coded within the XCatHnd.fr Class { kXCatHndStartupShutdownServiceBoss, kInvalidClass, { /** Implementation of IStartupShutdownService @see XCatHndStartupShutdown */ IID_IAPPSTARTUPSHUTDOWN, kXCatHndStartupShutdownImpl, /** Implementation to IK2ServiceProvider to identify the service type as startup-shutdown */ IID_IK2SERVICEPROVIDER, kCStartupShutdownProviderImpl, } }, but no FileHelper is shown at plug-in registering, although the call is implemented into the StartupShutdowService::Startup()-method. Did it appear at your test? Jochen Seliger Dirk Becker <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 27. Juni 2016 um 21:39 geschrieben: Dirk Becker created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8839719#8839719 > ... View more

Hi Dirk, as we are offering a work flow solution to shorten the production time and costs of advertisement production at/for media companies, we only may suggest, the our customers will use Adobe applications to create the requests ad design. We can not force them to use a certaine version. That's why we have decided ti start the reimplementation of our previusely implementetd plug-in with CS2 and port the code afterwards to the versions our customer will use. I kindly ask you to provide us a solution to get at least the xmlcataloghandle sample working as desired wit CS2. Kind regards Jochen Seliger Dirk Becker <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 27. Juni 2016 um 09:44 geschrieben: Dirk Becker created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8838380#8838380 > ... View more

Hi Dirk, Ive checked my code. I already use IIAPP Here is my UIE.fr-snipped for Boss declaration: Class { kUIEStartupShutdownBoss, kInvalidClass, { /** Implementation of IStartupShutdown @see XCatHndStartupShutdown */ IID_IAPPSTARTUPSHUTDOWN, kUIEStartupShutdownImpl, //wie in dem Adobe Text mit geändertem Suffix /** Implementation to IK2ServiceProvider to identify the service type as startup-shutdown */ IID_IK2SERVICEPROVIDER, kUIEStartupShutdownProviderImpl,//wie in dem Adobe Text mit geändertem Suffix } }, What is your recommendation to get the StartupService::Startup()-method to be exetited at plug-in- loading? Jochen Seliger Dirk Becker <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 27. Juni 2016 um 09:44 geschrieben: Dirk Becker created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8838380#8838380 > ... View more

Hi Dirk, first of all. We hade implemented a similar plug-in (with StartupShudowService::Startup()-method) many years ago with CS2. That worked at that time, but was lost unfortunately. Now we have used again the CS2 4.0.2 SDK VS2003ID CS2 an not oaur own plug-in and not the xmlcontenthandler sample is preseinting the FileHelpe Panel although it is implementedto the Startup()-method. So was the CS2 SDK changed at time of newer versiones of ID. I may use the interface you have mentined, but first I'like to know, if the CS2 code was achanged backwards. Kind regards Jochen Seliger Dirk Becker <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 27. Juni 2016 um 09:44 geschrieben: Dirk Becker created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8838380#8838380 > ... View more

Hi Manu, the CS2-SDK may be downloaded from the ADOBE site. What error do you get? May be you generated the debug version of the plug-in. That is due to VS2003. There is a permanent choice at the top frame of the IDE Panel, to specify the debug, or relase way to go. The action for buildig a debug or a release version you will have to select from two different pulldown menus. If you mix the selection of the choice and the pulldown menu, you will get an error concerning the required debug version of ID If you get an 'invalid' error, the problem is obviosely due to the versions of the SDK and ID itself. So please let me know the exact error, you get. I may send you the SDK, in case you will not be able to download it from the ADOBE site, but on my oppinion EMail is not the best way. May tell me the connection account and URL to an FTP-Server at yout site, I could downlaod the bundle to? Kind regards Jochen Seliger Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 25. Juni 2016 um 00:00 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8835251#8835251 > ... View more

Hi Manan, that at least sound good. I'll send you our id4sdk.zip the project file for CS2 and for any case the resultiong Plug-in. Kind regards Jochen Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 23. Juni 2016 um 19:35 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8831972#8831972 > ... View more

Hi Manan, meanwhile I can my UIE-project with the VS2003-IDE again. But as you wrote, the CS2-SDK an ID is unavauilable for you, the question is, what is the best version to go further. We have the CS5.5-SDK installed, but have still truoble to port our project to the VS2008-IDE. The test trail for our ID CS5.5 is over. On my opinion a parcticable way could be, if you try the xmlcataloghandler sample with the SDK you have installed (if I remember right CS4). After you have tested the sample and it will present the FileHelper through the XCatHndStartupShutdownService::Startup()-method, we will download the CS4-SDK, port our plugin-code to that sample, build it and send it to you to test the general functionality (menu adding, Filehelper-showing and ID-Save-Eventhandling). Is that a way you aggree to ? Kind regards Jochen Seliger Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 23. Juni 2016 um 16:32 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8831217#8831217 > ... View more

Hi Manan, I did not read your text corretly. So if you could first may build the xmlcataloghandler sample with the SC4 SDK (you have installed) to present the FileHelper at startup, we could install the CS4 SDK, build our plug in,based on that sample, and send you the final UIE-plug-in afterwards for general testing. Do you agree? Kind regards Jochen Seliger Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 23. Juni 2016 um 16:32 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8831217#8831217 > ... View more

Hi Manan, that sounds fine. So please try the xmlcataloghander sample. That Plug-in shall present the FileHelper at startup. Kind regards Jochen Seliger Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 23. Juni 2016 um 16:32 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8831217#8831217 > ... View more

Hi Mana, it seems that it will not be easy to port the CS2 project to CS5.5. So fare I made my id4sdk-Project 'USF_ID_EDIT' unhandable fot the VS2003 IDE. So the only chance is to send you the 'xmlcataloghandler' sample source tree + the project file for VS2003 and the resulting XMLCatalogHandler.pln. This sample should also present the FileHelper at startup, but wiil not do it too. Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 23. Juni 2016 um 14:37 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8830942#8830942 > ... View more

Hi Manan, the first errror is "wrong compiler". May you sayme where the odrfz sould be configured at VS2008?. Jochen Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 23. Juni 2016 um 14:37 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8830942#8830942 > ... View more

Hi Manan, I'm yust porting the code. At the first(unchanged) build I've got an error concerning wrong compiler. I'll change the project properties now and try again. Jochen Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 23. Juni 2016 um 14:37 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8830942#8830942 > ... View more

Hi Manan, so I'll try to build the sources with the CS5.5 SDK. But afterwards I will send yu the resulting plug-in and the source bundle, becaus I do not have a CS5.5-InDesign. Kind regards Jochen Seliger Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 23. Juni 2016 um 14:28 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8830938#8830938 > ... View more

Hi Manan, as we had other problems with newer versions of ID+SDK, we've decided to start the reimplement of our meanwhile lost first version of the plug-in build with SC2-SDK, again with CS2 and port it afterwards to the newer versions. What is strange, that we used at thet first version the StartupShutdownService. The only samples (xmlcataloghandler), having at least a XXXStartupShutdownService.cpp file I've build and run while setting a cout << "XYZ"; to the XCatHndStartupShutdownService::Startup()-method. But nothing was shown at startup eaven for that sample. The semms to me,that something at the basis is made wrong til our sucessful time. I have installed the CS5.5 SDK on my system. May I send you CS5.5 sources as well? Kind regards Jochen Seliger Manan Joshi <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 23. Juni 2016 um 14:08 geschrieben: Manan Joshi created the discussion "Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services" To view the discussion, visit: https://forums.adobe.com/message/8830872#8830872 > ... View more

Hi Alo, that information I've alredy found and have implemented my code regarding tis informetion. But the my StartupShutdownService::Startup()-Method is not reached, because obviusely the StartupShutdownService is not executed by the plug-in-registering-functionality. The plug-in it self is loaded without any error. I've got several recommendations and heve searched by myself. But all these samples basicmenu, snippedrunner and paneltreeview use another approach. Here the resources are defnied within the ID.fr file and are processed obviously by the odrfz. At none of these cases the StartupShutdownService::Starup()-method is reached at plug-in(ID)-Startup. Kind regards Jochen Seliger Alo Lohrii <forums_noreply@adobe.com> hat am 23. Juni 2016 um 09:12 geschrieben: Alo Lohrii marked Nimesis's reply on Re-Asking: Help with startup/shutdown services as helpful. > ... View more

Hi Mimesis, I've followd yor recommendations on CS2, but the StartupShutdownService::Startup()-method is not executed while the plug-in is loaded to ID CS2. May you provide me the exact steps to do/implemented or a working project using the StartupShutdownServices at CS2, because we want to start out reimplementation at CS2. For your information, we hade implemented a similar plug-in with CS2 several years ago, which worked with the named service. But that plug-in was lost unfortunately. Please help us, to get that services Startup()-method executed at the respecitve stage of plug-in-registration. Kind regards Jochen Seliger ... View more