jdmack01 wrote: With Adobe Audition, when I'm running the script I described, I see the processing being bounced from core to core and the CPU usage is around 25%. I'm sure that Audition could, with some work by the developers, be made to be more efficient from this POV. I think that a lot of people have noticed that if you really load the program up with tracks, especially with effects on, that you need to lock as many as possible if you want to get a reasonable level of replay - rather more so than with other software doing comparable things. This doesn't generally affect me, because I rarely run more than about 8 at once, and generally don't need to do any channel processing at all (classical mixing), but for anybody doing larger mixdowns, this can become something of an issue. Time alone will tell what happens, though. ... View more

jdmack01 wrote: I would *love* to see all four of my processors chugging away in the task manager when running these scripts, cutting that time down significantly. I don't think you would - because at that point your computer's OS would stop functioning! The RAM issue doesn't have any direct bearing on how many processors are running - that's not it at all. Audition isn't actually a particularly heavy user of RAM; it's video software that tends to eat this up. And I'm pretty sure that this is where Matt is coming from; what's the real need for being able to address RAM that the processors won't use anyway? The processes that really benefit from multiple-processor operation are FFT-based ones, which only really get efficient when the processing load is shared, but even they don't use huge amounts of RAM either. ... View more

Lost Weekend wrote: I have some amazing virtual instrument plug-ins from EastWest and Steinberg that I can't use on Audition, because they're not compatible. I have to go to my old version of Cubase, which I'm really not crazy about, but it's my only choice for now, in order to use these instruments. It would be so much easier for me to do all my recording on one DAW instead of importing and exporting files from one to another. On quite a regular basis it's been found that plugins that aren't compatible have actually been at fault rather than Audition. And we're not talking small names either - Waves had to rebuild quite a few of theirs so that they actually met the laid-down criteria. Apparently there are some regular shortcuts that programmers take that will work - sort of - with some software that could be perhaps described as 'not very particular', but these plugins all seem to come unstuck with Audition unless their authors get it exactly right. Nowadays more do than don't, fortunately. ... View more

Bob Howes wrote: I can't think of any competitor that isn't "out of the frying pan and into the fire". I can think of a couple - but I'd describe them as jumping out of the frying pan staight into my bank balance, and digging huge great holes in it... ... View more

Adobe have always said that they would indicate if Audition wasn't to be developed any more, and no indication has yet been given... That's all you get. As for why - well it always begs a few questions. The general answer has always been that they never make promises in advance, just in case they can't deliver them, so it's simplest to say nothing at all. I'm pretty sure that the real reason though, is simply that - THEY CAN! ... View more

There's never news on patches until they actually appear, I'm afraid. But quite frankly, I wouldn't hold your breath, especially as it's likely to be an OS issue rather than an Auditon one directly. ... View more

The only thing of note that appears to have changed recently is that cookies are non-expiring again. All of the other things that are SERIOUSLY ANNOYING about this forum software haven't changed in the slightest. I mean, how damned difficult is it to provide an extra line in the link box so that you can give your link a sensible name instead of just leaving a string of html on the page? It's basic stuff like this that makes it as annoying as it is... ... View more

tomrrt wrote: Not that anyone will be reading this but thought I'd write anyway. Oh, people do read these threads... and the answer I gave in the second post of this thread still stands. I was working a lot with Audition but have now moved on to Logic Pro (MBP) and Sonar (PC) and Melodyne Studio (both) as Audition appeared to have reached it's end of life point. So how do you define its 'end life point'? Since you can't possibly know what the developers may or may not have in mind, and there have also been loads of suggestions made to them since AA3.0 was released, I don't think that you can justify a comment like that as anything other than a wind-up - just like everybody else who trys the same thing... ... View more

ghost zero wrote: btw: could this be a compatibility issue that is the fault of audition rather than windows 7 x64 or my sound driver? I can't say unequivocally that it isn't - Audition uses an ASIO interface, and whilst that's known to work fine with XP, it's also quite possible that it doesn't behave exactly the same with W7. You have to bear in mind that what ASIO does is to punch a large hole through the OS so that it can get directly at your sound device without being 'mediated' by the OS - well, as far as possible anyway; you have to reckon that the sound device is still 'seen' by the system, so it's not completely hands-off. But, as I've argued before, any OS that gets in the way of an already operating setup should be viewed as the offender, not the existing SW. This was exactly what I said about Vista, which most people now admit was demonstrably true - it sucks big time for audio. But also, I'd have to say that not being able to record a 'what you hear' option doesn't actually have anything to do with the drivers as such, but is simply a routing issue within the OS. What I have no idea of though is how, if it has, this has changed in W7. So if you can't find an easy way to make it work then you'll have to wait for somebody who has to say how they did it, I'm afraid. ... View more

Oh, they've been playing with it, that's for sure - it behaves differently to the way it did a few days ago. Now, it seems to log me out more frequently, but simply clicking onto Login again restores it - sometimes automatically without me having to do anything. But not consistently! So, just to misquote Star Trek once again (for those who missed it before) - "It's forum software, Jim - but not as we know it"... ... View more

I've never seen it mess up a system yet. It's described as a driver, but really it's a driver interface, and as such it doesn't interfere with your system at all. ... View more

ghost zero wrote: btw, in audition there is a check box to "release ASIO driver in background".  any ideas what that does?  i ive tried that option on/off but doesn't fix it. It wouldn't - it does exactly what it suggests. If you click on that, all it means is that when you click on another panel in Windows (which puts Audition into background mode), you'll lose the ASIO driver. Most times this is more of a hindrance than a help. As for Wild Duck's observation that ASIO doesn't support 'what you hear' - well, he's absolutely correct about that; ASIO effectively punches a hole through most of the top layers of the OS, so 'what you hear' wouldn't ever get a look-in. I still think that ASIO4ALL is your best bet for a solution, quite frankly. It stands alone, you don't have to remove any other drivers, and obviously you get the choice of whether to use it or not. ... View more

ghost zero wrote: But when I click the record button, I get an error message titled "Adobe Default Windows Sound Driver" error code FF9-5-0044 [8878000a] "device could not be opened".  And then Audition only records silence.  I've tried using the Sound Recorder program that comes with Windows 7 x64 and that records fine.  But Audition won't record any sound.  Any ideas?  Can this be fixed? Unusual - but this is Windows 7, which wasn't around when AA3.0 was developed and technically isn't supported (although generally reports are good). You've done the basic check I would have suggested already (sound recorder), so this sounds very much like the Audition driver is not liking your sound device for some reason. But, if you've installed the correct driver for the card, you won't have been using the same one that sound recorder uses, so it doesn't actually prove very much, I'm afraid - Audition uses ASIO and sound recorder uses the internal WDM one. The one thing that might work if all else fails is the (free) ASIO4ALL driver - this is much more likely to have been updated for Windows 7 and also gives better error reporting. It carries out the same function as the Audition one (converts WDM to ASIO and vice versa), and generally works pretty well. Alternatively, if you think you are using ASIO then check to see if there's an updated driver from Creative - but if you are already using the latest one and it's not working, try ASIO4ALL as a stopgap and complain to Creative... (I hope all that makes sense!) The other thing that's just occurred to me is that if the device can't be opened, something else has grabbed it. The obvious candidate is Windows Sounds - have you turned them off? ... View more

Suite Spot wrote: ... the last post (not the bugle thing) There have been plenty of times when I thought that the bugle thing would have been far more appropriate! Strikes me though that your browser might have loaded a cached version, in which case the refesh button is your friend. ... View more

Suite Spot wrote: And now you guys poking fun at this glossy mag 'institution' - shame on you both!!! So where can I get some of that paper & a T-shirt Can't see a problem with poking fun at PT myself... and one of my sons prints T-shirts as a part-time job, so organising a few shoudn't be a particular problem either. I'll see what he can do. Maybe we should put my earlier  Lizzy B. Browning's ode to PT on the back? ... View more

I do like the idea of 'PT sucks - big time' teeshirts! ... View more

More aggro: When you post, there's a line at the bottom about attachments - we've mentioned it before. Now it says: Max Size: 5.0 MB                 , All file types are allowed except: .doc, .bin, .dms, .lha, .lzh, .exe, .class, .so, .dll Can you see the extension .scp in the disallowed list? No, neither can I. But if you try posting a perfectly legitimate Audition .scp file it says that the extension isn't allowed! So, you have to save it as a .txt file and get the recipient to rename it. The 'allowed extensions' thing is all rubbish anyway - since you can save a .txt file with unicode extensions in it, into which I think you could copy any of the above, you could post just about anything - so what's the point???? ... View more

Suite Spot wrote: One more reason to hate PT  How do I hate thee? Let me count the ways. I hate thee to the depth and breadth and height My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight For the ends of Being and ideal Grace. I hate thee to the level of every day's Most quiet need, by sun and candlelight. I hate thee freely, as men strive for Right; I hate thee purely, as they turn from Praise. I hate with a passion put to use In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith. - with abject apologies to Elizabeth Barrett Browning, but it certainly sums it up quite well! ... View more

MusicConductor wrote: Wow. Already another month has slid by, and the total page views on this thread has passed 10K.  An impressive milestone. I'm glad you said 'milestone' - because now I want 20,000! And AudioMasters is fixed again. ... View more

Yeah, seen it - but for some strange reason it won't let me fix it (this is a straightforward server issue and it's happened a few times before - just needs a reset) so Despised7 will have to look at it when he wakes up... anyway, sorry about that. ... View more

Suite Spot wrote: I'm not sure if I risk a law suit from Adobe but here goes...... No, that's the one large corporation that you don't run the risk with! When complaints are received, they simply say "Nope - he's completely hands-off; we didn't help him and we're certainly not responsible for him". And when the phone call is over, they ROTFLTAO! ... View more

RonNovy wrote: Hmm... Would the session files the program saves be property of the company that wrote the software?  I do believe you would have ownership of your own creation no matter what form it is in.  I mean you wouldn't pay royalties to Adobe for music you mixed and mastered using Audition right? You might think that, but it wouldn't necessarily be correct. For instance, have a look at this; and bear in mind that Adobe pay royalties to Fraunhofer for use of their MP3 coder, on the basis that you are using their code, certainly - but if you look at the bottom, you'll also find that they could charge you a royalty depending on the revenue you make from it - effectively charging you for use of your own product and distributing it in their format... which means that this: A translator is pretty much just converting your work from one form to another on your own storage space, but again it is still your work no matter what form it's in.  Does providing a translator to users break some copyright laws?  I highly doubt it...  As long as you don't dissassemble the program or use their code I doubt it breaks any laws to read/write work that doesn't belong to the software company.  And I don't think it matters who the translator is written by because it's still user created data being translated and not property of the software companies.  But I guess it's probably better left to a third party developer or group of developers... If you don't own the data within a file, can you really own the format it is stored in?  I can understand patenting complicated algorithms like MP3, but I'd hate to have my simple bits and bytes of data held hostage by some company that knows nothing of my buisness or creative works... ...isn't absolutely true at all, although to be fair, I don't think that any one organisation owns enough of all of the software involved to action it. But if we take ProTools and their proprietary session code format as an example, what we really have is only small companies providing translations, and those aren't exactly promoting it as 'we've broken ProTools'. But if Adobe did it, then the lawyers would scent an altogether bigger fish, and start looking at ways a la Fraunhofer of either making money out of it, or preventing it. ... View more

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RonNovy wrote: Maybe Adobe should buy you guys out (or buy a license) and offer the complete AATranslator package as part of Audition...  It would make a nice addition to the application don't you think? Hmm... I can't see that Adobe's 'competitors' would exactly see that in the same light... It's okay (well, more than okay really)  for somebody to produce something like this on a freelance basis, because that isn't Adobe rubbing everybody else's nose in it - but for Adobe to adopt it formally would probably be rather more than the competition (if that's what it is) would probably tolerate. Quite frankly I'm amazed that Suite Spot hasn't had a 'cease and desist' letter from those ProTool idiots' lawyers anyway - but if Adobe were to do this, I'm pretty sure that they'd get the hawks onto it immediately. ... View more

I'm still hacked off about not being able to use Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V in the stupid editor... (only a couple of thousand to go!) ... View more

As far as Firefox is concerned, we appear to be in that rather awkward situation where not only does Firefox get updated, but so does Java. And since so much of this stupid forum is based on Java code that appears to have been appallingly badly slung together (Java isn't normally anywhere near this bad), you can never quite tell what's going to happen next. As an example of what's sloppy about the Java implementation overall, let's look at the 'insert link' code. Firstly, when you get to post your link, it always starts with http:// and a) that's sometimes inappropriate, and b) it's downright annoying even when it is appropriate. When you copy and paste a link, you invariably get the entire link - and if you just paste it, it won't work properly. Anybody actually using this 'feature' will already be aware of the need to post an entire link, so there's not really any excuse based on 'example', I'd say. But that's not all - when you've finally got your link in there, and you look at what it's been called, you find that it's the entire link! So you have to open the HTML editor to edit this and give it a friendly title anyway if you don't want to create a mess. How simple would it have been to have two boxes, one for the URL and another for a friendly title? Actually pretty simple indeed - so why wasn't it done in this oh so wonderful software... You will also notice above, or in fact anywhere where http:// is written, that the editor appears to try to treat it as a hyperlink anyway - and that's very poor editor coding, I'd say. At a bare minimum, you should be asked in a pop-up when you type it whether this is intended to be a link or not, and of course this simply doesn't happen. And whilst we're about it, there's another thing - no rolling eyes emoticon. This would be extremely appropriate on this forum. ... View more

Al the Drifter wrote: Naw, they probably send you out shopping for groceries, part of the lunch-process team-building exercise. I was thinking along the lines of there being no such thing as a free lunch - but you might just have a point. The JIVE opening video is either hilarious or terrifying, depending on your proximity to corporate employment.  I kept expecting the pointy-haired boss to make a pitch. That's another good point - it hadn't occurred to me that Dogbert's evil corporation may actually be real! But having seen what they've said about software and projects recently it all makes a lot of sense - in a very bad way... ... View more

Bob Howes wrote: Maybe they should have stuck to the motivational seminars. I bet they provided free lunches... ... View more

MusicConductor wrote: --I don't have to log in everytime I try to post a reply.  Not that you should.  But "remember me" doesn't (didn't) work, so when I started lurking a short while ago, I wasn't logged in.  I did that when posting a reply to the PC_Pete letter, and it remembered me when I hit reply on this one. Small steps, sure, but they're steps.  It still cracks me up that Jive's feedback forum page, at the bottom, states: "Jive combines collaboration software, community software & social networking software into the leading SBS solution."  I don't know what an SBS solution is, but if this is the leading one, I hate to think of the trailing one.  Tis the destruction of community that has occurred. Well I'm glad you think it works - sometimes it can't even remember me for long enough to edit a reply even when I'm logged in! SBS obviously stands for Significantly Bullshitted Software, so that should all make sense now. Of course it's the best at that. I like the read count on this thread too - next stop 10,000. Well, look on the bright side - at least it's testing the counter... ... View more

plarsen@mail.tele.dk wrote: All of which demonstrates the relevance of the NNTP option they removed. It's sort-of worse than that. They slung out an entire system which, although not perfect, worked fine - despite what they might claim. And what makes it worse still is that as a company, Adobe have a policy of not releasing beta software. Well, I don't know about you, but I wouldn't say that this forum software was anywhere near release quality, myself. If Adobe aren't prepared to release products of their own in this sort of state (and they aren't, believe me), then why are they prepared to use something written by some other company that they wouldn't release themselves, on their forums? ... View more