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‎Nov 22, 2023
05:30 AM
This has not been a problem in my observations of WCS. Double check your monitor profiles. One may be corrupt.
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‎Aug 31, 2023
11:56 AM
Check the color settings. But all of the latest standards profiles are v4 So I would not recommend changing them.
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‎Aug 31, 2023
06:20 AM
1 Upvote
This is a driver issue. Check for an updated driver or Contact the printer manufacturer for support on that. Or you can try it yourself but these profiles may be baked into the driver.
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‎Aug 30, 2023
05:14 AM
You have the choice to embed profiles, but to go without will either ruin your workflow or if you send your files to anyone else it will ruin theirs. So you may choose to not embed profiles during the save process.
But that will harm your workflow or anyone else who receives your files will receive "Mystery Meat" with no visual intent that will allow them to use the file properly. I will always advise against that. Instead, I will put in a feature request to remove this warning as a needlessly burdensome dialog box that causes people to question their workflows.
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‎Aug 29, 2023
05:09 AM
Both RGB and CMYK images should have embedded profiles. Embedded profiles represent how an image appears or the visual intent. Embedding ICC profiles is the de facto standard and should always be done. When receiving RGB or CMYK images the embedded profile tells a calibrated system how to display that image on the monitor.
The warning is a nuisance created By Adobe and should be made to go away by the same, but not embedding profiles because of Adobe's warning is a horrible workflow and not a trad-off for Adobe's aggravating pop-up warnings.
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‎Aug 28, 2023
11:02 AM
As I mentioned above, it is a feature that Adobe added many years ago when the ICC moved to v4 profiles. 2009 if I remember properly. There is nothing to overcome. The process is internal and the warning is meaningless. It should not occur because the user can not affect the process at all. It only appears when v4 profiles are embedded. No reason to be concerned or make any changes.
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‎Aug 28, 2023
07:46 AM
2 Upvotes
Adobe decided years ago to freeze its support for ICC profile advancements. They will instead convert ICC version 4 profiles to version 2 which saves Adobe money. ICC version 4 profiles can be created as version 2 if done correctly (which Adobe does) and will match the output of Version 4 profiles. so no worries. They have decided not to support ICC MAX which is spectral ICC profiling instead of using CIELab as the profile connection space. That decision stops any of the benefits to the printing and publishing industry. ICC Max has taken off in the medical field, leading to some amazing medical breakthroughs, specifically in cancer research.
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‎Aug 03, 2023
08:31 AM
So if the error is corrected after you delete your pref's. What is the problem you are asking about?
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‎Aug 03, 2023
07:54 AM
Photoshop no longer see's the ICC profile you have selected as default for your color settings. Select a different one, or uninstall and reinstall Photoshop.
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‎Jul 19, 2023
08:06 AM
1 Upvote
There are a lot of G7 "certified" printers in the US but most of them only know what they remember from their class and have very little experience. That is the croud your dealing with. The official ISO color standards are the CRPC profiles available on color.org. So if your printer does not know what profile they are using or which color space they print in, you can figure out what solor space they "Should be" printing in by knowing their print process. Sheetfed Offset, Wide Gamut Digital, Web Offset, white paper, or Web Offset yellowish paper, or Uncoated, or Newsprint. That print process information can allow you ( or anyone else) to figure out what the printer is supposed to do.
G7 is another Pillar, different but very similar to the printing process for Fogra coated for example. The difference is very slight in the highlight areas, if your being picky. In reality what qualifies for Fogra coated will print very closely to G7 coated CRPC6. The Advantages of G7 over the european standards is it's paper relative. Now an argument can be made for color standards that include papers, but todays papers mostly change via optical brightners, so that is not a simple calculation.
Not quite sure what you mean by "overwridden". once a file is in a CMYK colorspace / profile is is only correct for that specific colorspace. So make sure your file workflow includes the correct US profile and embed it in the files.
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‎Jul 06, 2023
04:30 AM
My first response was just missing the quotes. I'm laughing because the statement by the OP is not even close to being factual. Adobe profiles are standard profiles packaged with the software. They haven't changed very much in decades
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‎Jun 29, 2023
04:10 PM
Well done Trevor. A romantic tale for sure!
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‎Jun 27, 2023
05:35 PM
Thanks very much Trevor!
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‎Jun 27, 2023
05:55 AM
8 Upvotes
Complicated outline Dave, but here's what I believe the actual surroundings used to look like for this grand windmill
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‎Jun 19, 2023
06:26 AM
1 Upvote
The printer's process of your file and the actual print process doesn't matter much if your file is prepared properly it can be processed in an optimal way.
I recommend you find your color, then specify it as a solid Spot color in Lab. That will provide the printer with a named color and its Lab values. If your job prints digitally, and your color is too bright, it will not print to match, because the press gamut doesn't encompass your color. The advantage of specifying this way is that the special color can be added to the press and proofing RIPs so they will be able to adjust that color individually if needed.
If the color is to print as a spot color then you can ask your printer for a drawdown of the ink color you have specified. Then they will use that color on the press.
The best practice is to specify spot colors as Spot in your files at 100% if possible. If not so long as the color is set up as a spot color in your file as a Lab color it will go through all of today's rips very well.
The match may be disappointing if you're specifying a color that is out of gamut for a print process, and your print job is CMYK.
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‎Jun 10, 2023
05:46 PM
2 Upvotes
To answer your question, yes a monitor profile is accessed by the same methods for both ACR and Photoshop. So you are correct that the profile is used by both software's and would have the same effect on color being displayed
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‎Jun 08, 2023
06:38 AM
Does the image your using include an embedded profile? If so uninstall both PS and ACR then reinstall them. Remove the preferences in your system folder before re-installing.
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‎Jun 08, 2023
05:34 AM
Make sure when comparing applications on the same image that the image includes an embedded ICC profile that describes how you expect it to appear on screen. Sometimes when files do not have an embedded profile and color settings are different between applications (sRGB for PS and Adobe RGB for ACR the image will naturally appear different. You can also check and change your color settings in ACR to match Photoshop. That should solve your issue.
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‎Jun 02, 2023
05:32 AM
Your browser is set to reject al cookies. That should be changed. Disable any pop-up blockers and Ad blockers as well.
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‎Jun 01, 2023
09:42 AM
9 Upvotes
This was a very heavy anchor!
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‎May 29, 2023
04:48 PM
Lol, Adobe's profiles are inconsistent. This is not remotely correct.
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‎May 29, 2023
09:43 AM
As D Fosse has noted, color management bases it's colors in CIELab color space. Color numbers are there to denote a color in a color system.
To make a single set of numbers match across all systems, convert it to 16 bit CIELab. (Make an image in Photoshop) then only convert it once to each color space. Remember hexadecimal colors are only in sRGB and are fore websites.
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‎May 29, 2023
09:31 AM
Always and a resounding yes! Without the embedded profile the files color appearance is not defined. Always include the profile and all color managed software will display it as intended.
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‎May 25, 2023
05:00 AM
1 Upvote
Agree, but then I'm embracing the new brushes that creat cool that would take a bit longer. So is just another tool to use for creating. The real power is in knowing or imagining what should be in a space where nothing exists now.
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‎May 19, 2023
11:29 AM
8 Upvotes
Going Condo...
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‎May 09, 2023
04:26 AM
Yes you can use the CMYK color if there is an ICC profile for Matte Packaging The Coated Guide is printed using GraCol 2013 color space. Make a CMYK Swatch in 16 bit and convert the mode to CIE Lab. Then convert to your Standard Matte CMYK profile and the results will match if the printer prints to standards. There is no standard ICC profile available, make a Spot colot from the 16 bit LAB values of your CMYK color . The printer will eiether convert the file to their press space or creat a special spot color to match the CIE Lab values. Check with your printer as to which they prefer. That will solve the problem.
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‎Apr 27, 2023
05:34 AM
Persian living room rug brown and blue, yellow mixture in a room without furnishings provides no answer
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‎Apr 25, 2023
08:43 AM
1 Upvote
This is the way, Dave 🙂
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‎Apr 25, 2023
08:26 AM
1 Upvote
This is the way!
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‎Apr 25, 2023
05:51 AM
9 Upvotes
Sometimes all you need is a good friend and a tank full of hypermatterSometimes all you need is a good friend and a tank full of hypermatter.
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