On OSX monitor profiles should be saved in: >>>StartupDrive/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/Displays good one rob day thank you for coming in and getting my post corrected since when i posted, it would not work for me on the System directory you pointed me to i reinstalled 10.11.6 on top of my install and ran Cocktail over that for an Energy Saver issue that preserved my full working install and put me right back to work NOW THE PROFILE DRAG & DROP WORKS AS EXPECTED AS ROB DAY OUTLINED (it's giving me an option to Authenticate the move) - FOR ALL USERS (it being in my System Library Vs User Library) ... View more

okay with Finder running GO (push/hold Option key) drop down to Library> ColorSync> Profiles (drag and drop the profile here) it worked ... View more

thanks, neil, it's a problem because the OS is not letting me do it i'm pretty sure the eye-one display 2 Xrite - i1match package is incompatible with the new OS - and i don't have money for a new package i've had ok luck just moving the profiles i made in 10.6.8 to newer systems - and copying them to the profiles folder has never locked me out before still stumped... ... View more

not yet sure how Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Acrobat will run on my pristine install of High Sierra... but I hit the Java bug trying to open illustrator i noted the fix solution here some time ago looks like i need to go back and review the steps Pls just tell me how - CS6 Yosemite Java ... View more

>> and the half-color managed Windows apps (Adobe excluded) Assigned/Assumed sRGB then Converted Correction: should have wrote more like:  half-color-managed windows apps converted to sRGB (not the monitor profile) ... View more

>> When he sets everything to the Windows default, it "seems" to be altering the LUTs so that the screen physically won't output anything more than sRGB... Windows is most likely only "PASSING THROUGH" the RGB in his scenario - sRGB in = sRGB out if you do that test with the PDI Adobe RGB target (tagged or untagged) it should look pretty good on a WG monitor ... View more

>> the real question at the bottom that so far has not been answered ... I am unclear from a technical perspective what Windows is doing and what impacts it has on the display output. that is a much more focused question - and your wide-gamut screen makes it a little easier to observe try running this PDI reference set through your workflow both tagged and untagged versions but to repeat myself in other words (last time I checked): Windows OS (and most Windows apps) are either passing the RGB numbers straight to the monitor unaltered - or Assigning/Assuming sRGB then Converting to the monitor profile FULLY COLOR MANAGED apps, like Photoshop, read an embedded source profile and Convert/Translate colors to the monitor for a theoretical 'true color' monitor proof (Source>MonitorRGB)... ... View more

> don't use applications without color management. Just don't. >> That's nice in theory, but 99% of the applications used in the 3D industry are not color managed and likely never will be for the foreseeable future due to legacy code that makes up the ones many use. The ones that do have it are only partially implemented. that's pretty much the point here and it is clear you understand the question you are asking... ... View more

>> With most higher end displays being wide gamut, if you work in almost any 3D apps, the output from the framebuffers are generally not color managed. it is almost impossible for most people to edit sRGB color (with any degree of accuracy) in a non-colormanaged environment using a so-called wide-gamut monitor >> some people I know are calibrating their displays, but abandoning the use of the generated display profile and instead leaving windows in its default sRGB color management settings.  As I'm a Mac user and don't run into this, I was curious if doing this has the same effect as clamping the gamut at the hardware? Is this just a software version of this?  Doing this basically throws out all color management, but basically converts everything to the same color space (sRGB) and then the outputs regardless of the application match. i really lost you there after your first sentence - but if your destination color environment is based on sRGB you may do better at your "3" option above (either "Don't buy high gamut displays," you wrote, or set an sRGB preset on your monitor and hardware profile it, as someone else wrote). >> I'm unclear what window's CM system is actually doing if left unaltered vs actually setting up proper CM. the last time i looked at Windows - it passed through the source RGB 'numbers' to the monitor without altering them and the half-color managed Windows apps (Adobe excluded) Assigned/Assumed sRGB then Converted i am not so sure Windows OS and "proper CM" go hand in hand (until you introduce an app that actually reads an embedded ICC profile and Converts to a proofing space, like a monitor for example but your milage may vary... ... View more

>>I printed a book through Saal Digital and realized that colors, contrast, and brightness are pretty different from what I saw on my monitor (macbook)...Any advice? a laptop is not a professional color reference monitor by any stretch of the discussion here - but it is the tool you have to work with so be aware of its limitations and work around them through experience i suggest: you buy a proven hardware monitor calibrator that works with your screen and keep running it until you completely understand the profiling process and have it the best you can you get your Photoshop color settings in order to faithfully 'proof' your color on your monitor you train your eyes (and Photoshop's Proof Colors) to better approximate what's going to happen from your monitor to your print space you package the document for the printer's workflow if your color comes back 'off' - the typical suspects are: your monitor is off (or you are not good at reading it) your colors were out of gamut for the print space your printer's workflow is broken (or your package was bad) in any case, you have a break in the color management chain (presuming your color was good)... ... View more

what changed on your machine when the problem started print using a known good reference image if your settings are correct i would suspect something is going on in your set up try printing from a new user account a screenshot of your File> Print menu may be useful for anyone trying... ... View more

Andrew, yes, at the end of the conversation i believe we all agree on what you are saying >> You always assume when assigning a profile. i think you are referring my making an assumption (presume may be a better word there) that the profile i Assign (i.e. Assume) is what the creator intended (regardless if s/he's worked off a bad monitor and/or stripped the profile AND i am trying to get the color back on track to PROOF it on the monitor or paper) >> Unless you've stood over the designer on his end, with his display and software, you're assuming what the image should look... i believe it is extremely RARE for most down-stream shops to have benefit of that scenario in the real world, but you make a good point i would add that most of the time when the majority shops receive something they don't understand - they steamroll over it and rarely contact the creator to resolve the issue beforehand ... View more

>> How do you know the source image data is in fact in Adobe RGB (1998) rather than sRGB? i'm kind of getting lost in this conversation, but for discussion: if i open a .jpg in Photoshop, use the embedded profile (or ignore any missing profile mismatch and thereby ASSUME/ASSIGN my default working profile) and then ASSIGN aRGB (Adobe RGB 1998) -- and the color then appears correct on my hardware profiled monitor -- i have the confidence in my system and knowledge to presume aRGB was a good move if it improves the color better than any other profile i have available. >> How do you know if the source content was made with or without color management? >> How do you know if the source content was made on a wide gamut display or not? i don't care, it does not matter, i have ASSIGNED a profile that appears correct in Photoshop on my hardware-profiled monitor (wide gamut monitor gamut arguments aside), and i can move forward in my task >> Assigning sRGB may indeed produce a better color appearance on your end than the assumed sRGB profile. that's a bit confusing unless it's a typo, there shouldn't be and difference in ASSIGNING or ASSUMING the same ICC profile in Photoshop, unless i miss your point? >> But it's rather difficult if not impossible to know the appearance of the image, without a profile from the source provider. unless the source provider based his image on a device-dependent custom ICC profile, i can most likely fish around for a device-independent profile to ASSIGN to quickly move forward in my process that's not presuming the original designer had some artistic off-color appearance in mind that i most likely would not miss or second guess if their document was tagged... ... View more

>> Incorrectly tagged doc's is a real rarity. Untagged not so much ok, i would argue that point i work on websites a lot more than print side these days, but i see the problems on both sides, for example:  i find myself routinely having to Assign aRGB (Adobe RGB) to other people's images (and PDFs) and then Convert to sRGB to pop the reds (skin tones) in place the Internet full of Untagged & mis-Tagged images/graphics/PDF too many print shops seem to deal in untagged CMYK and ignore embedded profiles (which is fine if they're delivered in the printer's default/working CMYK and RGB, but a problem waiting to happen if they're not) cleaning up someone else's wrongful Assumption and bad Conversion (after it left the original designer) Untagged PDF, Photoshop, Indesign, Illustrator documents (and mis-matched objects within them) are not at all uncommon in my experience... ... View more

PS  (to resting my case): for the majority of working professionals with a good 'calibrated' monitor to faithfully PROOF their color on a computer screen, color management boils down to understanding their workflow enough to Honor or Use the embedded ICC profile in their document (or ASSIGNING the correct ICC profile to their document when it is missing or wrongly tagged) then setting up a proper CONVERSION to a proper DESTINATION profile and that's not so complicated ... View more

well said again, Andrew very few people have your intricate technical knowledge of Color Management in both theory and the real world and only a few of them take the time to bring those up around them with seemingly endless free information that becomes a time vacuum my goal as someone who's still learning with an open mind is to find the writer i can follow -- then read up, test and observe the theory in action to build the cornerstones of my approach ... View more

>> If they are not color managed, sRGB is meaningless. how can it be meaningless (not useful) if sRGB gives the clueless print shop workflow a correct source profile "match" to their default RGB profile and thereby properly sets up their RGB>PrintSpace/CMYK conversion process regardless if they understand it or not? ... View more

>> The main purpose of sRGB has always been to describe an average monitor. That's what the original specification was. In the days of CRT monitors that's worth repeating then the Web, Adobe, Windows ... defaulted their flavors of 'color management' to sRGB and that leaves anyone in the business of navigating their digital color workflows through the real world would be wise to understand the beast and accommodate it ... View more

>> ... (sRGB) there's no particular relevance for print. the relevance of sRGB for print, for me, is sRGB is the only profile I will hand off to a printer with one exception: i am 100% confident their workflow will use my embedded profile in their conversion to their print space i've been burned on too many times otherwise (even after having the conversation) ... View more

Hi, Mr. thedigitaldog. I think sRGB still remains the SAFEST source space to hand off is my point, but I agree with what you wrote. in that case, by all means Capture your images in RAW open in wide-gamut, 16-bit colorspace edit in adjustment layers and convert to the destination space as a last step and never move them into sRGB except for the web (and non-colormanaged applications) ... View more

MY SPIN: First, sRGB would be the safest recommended destination profile for electronic delivery of your images. For printing, sRGB remains the safest bet to deliver to printers (let them do the RGB conversion to their print profile/space)... I LIKE TO EXPLAIN BASIC COLORMANAGEMENT THEORY LIKE THIS: 1) The Color Management System CMS reads the embedded Source Profile and CONVERTS (or transforms or remaps) the document colors to MonitorRGB (the custom 'calibrated' monitor profile) and PROOFs (or paints in light) the color accurately on the display monitor. The Source Profile> Monitor Profile conversion takes place automatically behind the scenes in most modern color-managed applications, including Photoshop and fully color-managed Web browsers like Safari and Firefox. 2) The Color Management System CMS reads the embedded Source Profile and CONVERTS (or transforms or remaps) the document colors to the Target Profile (the custom 'calibrated' printer profile) — a SPECIFIC Printer/Paper/Ink ICC Profile or PressCMYK — and PROOFs (or paints in ink) the color accurately on the printed paper. The Source Profile> Print Profile conversion is generally manually set up in the printer utility when we print from an application. In professional off-set CMYK printing, the conversion to CMYK (Target Print Space) is usually performed manually in Photoshop and saved for the printer. While my simple PROOFING ANALOGY doesn't address the pitfalls of relying on a bad monitor to evaluate and adjust digital color, it does make two important facts about Photoshop and professional color-managed printing workflows: 1) The printer can PROOF (print) the source file faithfully regardless of how right or wrong the monitor is set up, and 2) The monitor can PROOF (display) the source file faithfully regardless of how right or wrong the printer is set up. Remember, this is true simply because the Source Profile is independent of the Monitor Profile and the Print Profile. Getting a known good file (like the Adobe RGB PDI Photodisc-GettyImages RGB reference image) into Photoshop allows me to evaluate the monitor alongside the print to help me see where the problem is occurring... ... View more

Save As: Reduced Size PDF only got me to 18MB (and no Compression option) i would like to get smaller, more control over the compression, so i know what's going on ... ... View more

using Acrobat Pro CS6 on Mac OSX macOS (10.6x) ... View more

thank you i actually had 2 correct pages and 14 pages with the six extra inches of white space (3 left- 3right side) that i wanted to crop off the only way i found to finish my crop task was to perform two Page Range crops, one from "2" to "11" and one from "13" to "16" i didn't have to move any pages at all - Page Range worked flawlessly as long as no correct pages were included in the range at this point i am presuming Acrobat Pro CS6 is unable to crop "All" as per my original question (without working around the correct pages) thanks to all... ... View more

unfortunately the following method i used also cut into the correct size (see sides cut off P1 thumbnail, wide pages properly trimmed) i did following: Tools > Pages > Crop (double-clicked on wide page to open Set Page Boxes dialog) checked Page Range All entered values for left/right that gave me the crop i wanted on all the wide pages, but that ALSO cropped into the correct page ... View more