Jqqerry
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Jqqerry
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Feb 17, 2025
04:57 PM
3 Upvotes
You say that you didn't misunderstand, but the content of your thread seems to have entirely stemmed from misunderstandings. It also appears that many other contributors have kindly and thoroughly explained it to you...
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Feb 08, 2025
07:11 PM
https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/p-completely-broken-hand-tool-ps24-5-hand-tool-sticking-sticky-not-seeing-mouse-up/idc-p/14660275/page/26#M106438 Are you experiencing this specific bug? If so, try updating or pressing the spacebar once more. This has likely been a persistent bug for quite some time.
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Feb 08, 2025
07:08 PM
@westdr1dw Did you import the exact same RAW file into ACR? Or are you referring to opening a JPEG or similar file in ACR and adjusting +100, -100? If you imported a RAW file, then the values you mentioned—5600K, 3200K, 6300K, etc.—should appear exactly as expected. However, if it’s not a RAW file, then of course, those values won’t apply in the same way. (This is likely the same for LrC as well—try importing a JPEG file into LrC and see for yourself.) It's not a raw file. It looks like other users have already explained this to you, but you seem to have a major misunderstanding about it.
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Jan 31, 2025
03:16 AM
@jeromea13244388 I tried using the settings you suggested, but I don't notice much of a change. Also, it doesn’t seem related to the bug that occurs when using the window arrow. The issue still happens, although it occurs less frequently now.
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Jan 30, 2025
06:23 PM
@jeromea13244388 Hello! It's been a while. Happy New Year. If you apply the options you changed, does the issue of the brush turning into a Windows arrow no longer occur at all?
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Jan 13, 2025
04:49 AM
2 Upvotes
@Daniel Presedo Thank you. Please provide updates if there are any changes or updates. The essence of the Remove Tool is that users can achieve a level of quality similar to what they would achieve manually, but with just a simple click and in a short amount of time. However, that essence has been compromised, and the current Remove Tool holds no meaningful value in that regard. @stockphotog.miller That's correct. Even with a small brush size, it takes a very long time, and this happens even on the latest hardware. There's a lot that is wrong with it.
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Jan 05, 2025
06:42 PM
1 Upvote
The current version of Photoshop continues to have issues. Especially in versions after 26.0, the Remove Tool often triggers crash reports after being used a few times and operates very slowly. (Please don’t mention the Faster or More Stable options, as they are not fundamental solutions to the problem.) This is how the Remove Tool performs in version 25.12. While 25.12 isn’t the most stable version, its speed isn’t too bad. (As I’ve mentioned in other threads, there’s also this bug: in versions 25.12/26.2, it seems that the first stroke is always processed by the CPU, which makes it slow, while the GPU seems to take over from the second stroke onward.) And this is how the Remove Tool performs in version 26.2. You’ll definitely notice the difference in speed—it’s extremely slow. During the time you wait for it to process, the results are either the same as in 25.12, fail to remove the object properly, or trigger a crash report, making it a very unstable version. Additionally, the reason I kept Generative AI turned ON is that enabling it produced results similar to those in version 25.12. When it’s turned OFF, the speed improves slightly, but it’s still slower than the standard Content-Aware tool, the results are inaccurate, and it’s practically unusable for actual work. Also, the studio driver is already up-to-date. I’ve been reporting issues regarding the stability of the Remove Tool since last year, but it seems to be becoming increasingly unstable and slower over time. Of course, I’m always grateful for Adobe’s continuous advancements and technology offerings, but I hope the Photoshop team can address this issue. The main advantage of the Remove Tool, in my opinion, was that it was faster, automated, and provided fairly decent results compared to traditional tools like the Healing Brush or Clone Stamp. However, at this point, it’s slower than doing it manually, and the quality is even worse (in version 26.12). It feels like the identity of the Remove Tool has weakened considerably. Of course, even if you're lucky enough to get a good result, there’s still a chance of a crash report being triggered. So, it’s both funny and sad that you have to immediately press Ctrl+S before and after using the Remove Tool to save the PSD and protect your data. I’m not joking. From the massive crashes caused by Object Selection and Select Subject, the introduction of the "More Stable - GPU bypass" wasn’t really a solution either. Until that feature was introduced, I kept reporting bugs while constantly pressing Ctrl+S with every step. And now, I see that the same “More Stable” option is being recommended for most reports related to the Remove Tool. Please, fix Faster so it can operate with its original speed and stability. I just want to focus on my work. Having to press Ctrl+S every time I use a tool is terrifying.
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Jan 01, 2025
05:32 AM
In May 2024, it was stated that "The team has determined the root cause, and a fix should be released soon." And today is January 1, 2025. Yes, 2025........
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Dec 26, 2024
04:49 PM
I can't predict the exact version where the problem started (because I don't use Remove tool very well) But 25.12 and 26.1 are. Maybe you can refer to the bug reports from other users who posted that the use of the remove tool will lead to a surge in cpu usage. I think the first stroke always has a CPU.
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Dec 24, 2024
03:34 AM
If stable is selected, GPU is disabled. With some versions of Photoshop + compatibility issues with Nvidia drivers, it's an inevitable choice. Not a fix. The reason for the feature called stable or fast was that there was a huge crash for more than a few months, not days or weeks, and Photoshop eventually included the option of not using GPUs. The issue continued until Nvidia released a new driver at the time, and Photoshop released a new Photoshop that matched it. But the problem is that this is not the end. The current Remove tool is unstable too. So the Adobe community says try the stable option, but it's not a fundamental solution. The part Adobe needs to fix.
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Dec 15, 2024
06:27 PM
@Putragraphy I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Because in certain versions, the Remove tool is very unstable, which means you have to be careful if you have to keep that version. You don't have to save it as jpg. It means save intermediate courses with psd. I also agree that we pay and use the program, but what can we do? So far, there's only one version that's missing from the official release. 23.4? I don't remember exactly, but the bug at that time completely damaged the image itself. So many people reported this, and the release was deleted so that it couldn't even be downloaded at all. But now this can potentially avoid the problem if you don't use crash or issue-causing remove tool. So there's nothing we can do right now that we're using Photoshop 2024, or just have to be careful when we're using the remove tool in 2025.
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Dec 15, 2024
04:22 PM
Currently, the best solution is to not use remove tool in that version... For both window and mac, you have to use the Remove tool at the risk of potential crash. So, if I have to use it, I save it by pressing Ctrl+S before using the remove tool.
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Dec 12, 2024
09:04 PM
And it's a bug that has nothing to do with the more stable/fast option. That option was created during Select subject due to compatibility with Nvidia drivers, and I think it's either gpu or not at all.
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Dec 12, 2024
09:02 PM
As the title suggests, when using the Remove tool, the first stroke is strangely slow regardless of the image size. After applying the first stroke, it processes quickly for any image. This happens even if the brush size is small. This issue is the same in both Photoshop versions 25.12 and 26.1. window10, latest studio driver nvida.
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Dec 12, 2024
05:13 PM
I don't think it's a bad idea, but don't you usually turn off object finder and overlay and use it? I felt very slow when finder was on at the beginning of the millennium release, and I always turned it off and used it, and I remember seeing related issues in the community as well. I think it's a more necessary update to get the speed of object selection as fast as it was in 21.0.3.
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Dec 09, 2024
02:14 AM
1 Upvote
It's unstable even in Windows. So I always get my breath together before I use the remove tool and press Ctrl+S to save it for now, and I use the tool. I do this every time I paint a stroke, because if I don't, all the work can fly away. (Be sure to save before using the Remove tool) Some versions of Photoshop 2024+2025 are very unstable.
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Nov 19, 2024
09:49 PM
Hmm interesting 26.1 has just been released but this is not in the fix.
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Nov 16, 2024
11:36 PM
Maybe it's because the Nvidia driver was released in the latest version a few days ago, and the corresponding release of Photoshop hasn't been released yet...
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Nov 13, 2024
05:08 PM
@Shivani Somayajula Actually, it's not a very important story, but even if you disable the update, sometimes the Creative Cloud app itself needs to be updated. And when you update the Creative Cloud, auto-update for individual apps will be reactivated. Maybe it's related to this that Photoshop has been updated at will, even though I've disabled it in the community from time to time. (This bug? Or a minor issue is a few years old, but I haven't reported it separately because it's trivial.)
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Nov 13, 2024
05:08 AM
@Ronald Samonte As expected, it was an issue with GPU drivers as I expected a few months ago. Then I just have to wait for a version that's compatible with this driver (now really no problem, not opting for the option of not using GPU like stable) to be released from Photoshop.
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Nov 04, 2024
07:24 PM
@Sameer K Hello Sameer. Are the issues related to the current remove tool related to the thread below? You said you found the root cause around May 22nd and the fix will be released soon, but now seeing this Crash or Slow happening to RemoveTool, I suspect an issue with Nvidia drivers, what's the current situation with this? https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/p-ps-error-could-not-complete-your-request-select-subject-classifier-model-not-loaded-correctly/idc-p/14909418/page/4#M112350 Or is this a separate matter?
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Nov 01, 2024
06:00 PM
Yes, layers were an interesting aspect of Photoshop, and it’s no longer unique to Photoshop alone. Destructive editing and non-destructive editing are, in fact, just wordplay. The misconception people have is that applying something directly to the image or retouching on an empty layer using 'all samples' is considered non-destructive editing. That isn’t necessarily better. Non-destructive editing, as the term suggests, allows you to revert to previous results and provides convenience when changes are needed to meet client requirements. Therefore, retouching directly on the image itself is essentially the same. The only drawback is that it doesn’t allow you to immediately revert to a specific point when responding to client feedback. And focusing on AI functionality isn’t a bad choice. The market is already evolving, and staying ahead is a better strategy than falling behind. However, for example, over the past few months, numerous bug reports have been filed regarding issues and crashes with the remove tool, yet we rarely see such crashes with similar removal features on smartphones. Of course, some may argue that the quality of Photoshop’s remove tool is incomparable to that of smartphones. But what do average consumers think? A Photoshop tool that fails to function or crashes frequently versus a tool that works instantly with a simple touch on a smartphone. At the resolution that typical consumers use, the difference between the two tools is not significant. This is what I wanted to point out. While it’s impossible to eliminate all bugs perfectly, releasing stable, fixed versions each year, like in 2023 or 2024 (versions that work with minimal issues, similar to Photoshop from 2016 to 2019), and following up with additional public beta releases would be fine. It would also help if a warning appeared when updating in Creative Cloud (e.g., “This version is experimental and may have various issues”). Many other programs follow this practice. They clearly distinguish between the Stable Version and the Latest Version.
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Oct 31, 2024
06:29 PM
Since I'm using a translator, I'm not sure if my message will be conveyed clearly. To summarize it in one line: "Programming and bugs may not be perfect, but users do not need to understand that, and there is no reason why a new user installing the latest version should have a negative experience." This is what I want to convey. While the occurrence of bugs and the process of reproducing them are important, what will a first-time Photoshop user think when they hear things like "It depends on the GPU," "It varies by driver," or "Compatibility issues"? We need to think from their perspective because they are not the ones fixing it.
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Oct 31, 2024
06:22 PM
Of course, you are correct, and I partially agree with your point. Also, as I mentioned in the original text, I do not know programming. I am not an anti-fan of Adobe; on the contrary, I love Photoshop. It is indispensable for my job. However, I would appreciate it if you could better understand the perspective from which I wrote this. How can I know the risks if I don't understand programming? That is why I suggest that prior warnings would be beneficial. Let me give you an example. Here is a link to one of the serious bugs from the past (which I also reported). https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/p-strange-color-box-with-data-loss/idi-p/13003352 This bug was extremely powerful and even frightening. It was a bug that literally destroyed images beyond recovery, and some people reported that their family photos were damaged. What fault did they have? Should they have accepted the risk and gone to the Adobe community to search for such issues just because a bug that could destroy their family photos might occur in Photoshop? Who will acknowledge that their photos and memories were shattered? Of course, this is an extreme case. Nevertheless, I still believe that it would be better to make a stable release version from that year the main version, and then carry out additional update releases afterward. I understand that not all bugs can be fixed. However, if I buy a smartphone, the basic functions, such as making calls and browsing the internet, should at least work properly. But the current bugs in Photoshop often affect these fundamental functions, and that's the problem. The stable version I am referring to is one where the basic functions (such as the Brush tool or Liquify, etc.) are released with as few issues as possible, while experimental features are run like an official beta after the initial beta phase. Yes, achieving this may be difficult, as you mentioned, because many things have developed and changed. However, what is clear is that since around Photoshop 2019–2020, an overwhelming number of bugs have appeared, whereas before that, there were hardly any critical bugs that affected the usage and experience of Photoshop. So, while new feature additions like AI are certainly welcome, I hope the Adobe team would reconsider and place more emphasis on "stability" once again.
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Oct 31, 2024
06:11 PM
Yes, you are exactly right. You have precisely captured my perspective. This type of approach can be seen not only in Photoshop but also in other products, programs, and items from different fields. But is this beneficial for either the manufacturers or the customers? I don't think it benefits anyone. That's why I started to think a few years ago: Who are these current updates really for? Are they updates that can actually be used? If they can't be used, what is the point of these updates?
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Oct 31, 2024
05:32 AM
Also, since I am a Photoshop user, many people come to me to learn and ask questions about Photoshop. They often ask me, "Why is Photoshop acting this way?" And I have no choice but to give the same answer now as I did years ago: "The latest version is usually unstable." What kind of statement is that? It sounds absurd, doesn’t it? I don’t want to say this, but it’s the truth. Back in the 2018–2019 era of Photoshop, things were fine. Most users could have a complete experience without any critical bugs.
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Oct 31, 2024
05:27 AM
I have been using Photoshop for a long time, and it is an essential part of my profession as a retoucher. I am always grateful to Adobe and truly appreciate their products. However, while I’ve had these thoughts for quite some time, they seem to have grown stronger over the past few years, so I wanted to share them briefly here. (Once again, I want to emphasize that I am a fan and consumer of Adobe and its products. I am not an anti-fan.) I wish Photoshop were more user-friendly. This isn't about superficial aspects like a simple UI or visual elements. What I’m referring to is communication, quick feedback, and prompt action. Yes, I admit I don't know anything about programming. But let me give you an example. Let’s imagine a new user sees an Adobe advertisement on YouTube or social media and starts using Photoshop, inspired by a new dream. Excited, he launches Photoshop and tries out the generative AI or specific feature that he saw in the advertisement, unaware of the potential crash or existing issues with that feature in the latest version. Then a bug occurs. The user becomes confused. Yes, he could go to a community and ask for help. But let’s be honest. Among those who use Photoshop or Adobe products professionally or as a hobby, only a portion are inclined to seek feedback or discussion in a community. And of those, only some will report their situation and ask questions. Now, back to our story. He just purchased Photoshop today and, attracted by the intriguing features he saw in the advertisement, used that feature as soon as he launched the program. Unfortunately, it turns out to be the latest version with a bug, and he comes to a community saying it doesn’t work. The answer he receives is to provide the system info. After that, he might be told to reset his preferences, but there is no direct solution. So, what would he think until the bug is fixed? Once again, I want to emphasize that I like and value Adobe's products. However, I find this aspect a bit strange—am I the only one who feels this way? Not everyone using Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere, or similar programs is pushing them to their limits and encountering errors due to heavy use; many users are just hobbyists. So why do these unpleasant experiences keep happening with each new version? Of course, this issue isn’t exclusive to software like these programs; the same can be said for digital devices. For example, smartphones sometimes have certain features that don’t work properly in their latest version. However, these issues are usually fixed with hotfixes within a week. On the other hand, Photoshop’s update cycle is at least a month, and most people have no idea if the feature that piqued their interest and led them to purchase the software after seeing an ad will be fixed or not by the next release, or which functions will work properly. Why aren’t there more bug reports? Because only those who know how things should function can identify when something is abnormal and report it as a bug. That’s why I believe that Adobe should include such information on their Photoshop release page and in the Creative Cloud update logs (e.g., next to the Photoshop thumbnail). :: The current version may have issues with certain features. Due to compatibility problems with NVIDIA drivers, some bugs may persist, and some users may not be able to use specific features. While a Stable option can be used as an alternative, please understand that it may take some time to resolve these issues. Wouldn’t simply stating this prevent the confusion users face when they install the latest version and ask, "Why isn't this working?" Moreover, instead of monthly releases, I think Adobe should lock down a stable version for the year—one that can truly support key features like Photoshop's identity-defining tools such as the Brush, Clone Stamp, and Liquify. This would be the reliable version, while additional releases could introduce newer versions that might be slightly less stable, though not in beta. Of course, I understand that not everyone’s equipment is the same and that preventing all bugs is impossible. But is it really necessary to continue this cycle of confusion year after year, month after month, day after day?
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Oct 29, 2024
05:04 PM
@jeromea13244388 It seems certain that it rarely happens in general situations now. For example, with a very weak brush of flow 1%, it only seems to be visible from time to time in situations where you draw or retouch a fast repeat with a wacom tablet pen. But I still don't know the exact cause. =( But what's clear is that I don't remember experiencing anything like this in the old version (like Photoshop 2020, or 2019-2016 before that).
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Oct 29, 2024
06:11 AM
@jeromea13244388 hi longtime no see. Yes. I think in 26.0, these bugs and issues have improved a lot. (It might just be a mood but I think it's less frequent) But because of the deceleration and crash of the Remove tool (probably another issue with the Nvidia driver, it seems like a glitch), I deleted it and stayed at 25.12. I don't exactly remember the version we first reported and talked about before. But back then, if I purposely tried to recreate the bug, I could immediately recreate the problem with the brush cursor. But now 25.12 to 26.0 seems a bit difficult to forcefully reproduce. (Of course, when I'm busy working, I sometimes turn into a mouse cursor)
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Oct 26, 2024
08:23 PM
@lucellent Yes, I also pressed vote on your thread. Community volunteers often share information with each other, but this crash, or very slow speed, has actually often been a matter of Photoshop itself rather than a user issue. https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/p-object-selection-very-slow-response-photoshop-23-5/idc-p/13233087#M66122 So the stable option is not the solution. I just have to wait for updates from Adobe and Nvidia.
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