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Also, one more thing 
you should check out charts like this:
Because in After Effects at least the general performance with the i9-7900X is actually lower than the Threadripper 1950X. And I'm pretty sure you will see the same kind of low performance in Lightroom and Photoshop as well (if that's the programs you are using mostly). WHile the cheaper 6 core i7-8700K beats them both out of the water (weirdly so)...which is why Puget systems sells completely different machines for 3D rendering and image & motion graphics. So unless you do 3D rendering, I don't see anything else than a general loss to be honest. And Adobe programs won't use all cores ever I think, so no point in future proofing, its more likely they will move more and more of the heavy tasks to the GPU things such as Filters, effects, color processing and UI. which is what's happening in AE and Photoshop.
Yes I am in that position. I have the G.Skills memory kit and yes it is so expensive that I couldn't justify changing it out at the highly inflated prices now. I have what I have and it won't run at its stated 3200GHz on XMP. I don't know if the problem is the 1950X or the Motherboard itself! When I chose the XMP it does say 3200GHz and picks up the correct settings ie. 16-18-18-38 at 1.5v but it refuses to boot into windows. I have reduced the ram settings down in incremental steps down from 3200 and it will only run at 2933MHz
Hi Trevor. I think I finally found my problem. I was getting ready to starting remove the motherboard when I finally had anidea!
I started up the PC and entered the bias, low and behold there wasn't two dime not been recognised.
I made a note of the bime that weren't recognised and then switched off the PC. I removed dims B1 & B2 and replaced them with two others from known working slots on the board. I turned on the Pc again and wirt into the bias again ah Sh!t the same two dims Bi & B2 wernd working again.
I contacted Amazon and reported this issue and they are sending me out another motherboard and CPU to try. The reacon I chose to return the cPU was incase it was my CPU was faulty. I am anchesley waiting their arrival now.
Hopefully now I will see the full performance from my system now when the arrive. I will keep you all informed as to my progress.
Regards.
Mike
Hi guys i'm flolowing this thread..Have you allready try to fix the HPET issues so far ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/6wmhrf/help_threadripper_1950x_asus_zenith_x399_lag/
I allready see peoble with some same lag issues problems. I didn't notice someone talking about it in this thread, but maybe i'm wrong 
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I had the i9 7940x for like one day, few days ago. But i send it back cause this CPU was much to hot runing @stock and hiting 95°c+ when 100% load during render on C4D (like a bit more than 2 min). I wasnt runing a liquid cooler but a dark rock 3 air cooler and is allready one of the top in air solution.
I found that i could buy now pre delided i9 procesor directly on some shop from my country that could resolv this master issues, let see i'm now waiting for the money back.
I dint notice big difference in Photoshop in boot load when compare to my actual 5820k. As well no lag with the i9 and still a bit faster for boot system. I dint try with After effect as i dint not use so much.
I was still hoping good news about the TR 1950x and the Adobe experience as i reallly prefer the marketing position of AMD and I thing that Intel start to be ridiculous with there manufacture and hardcore prices when compare for similar perf in AMD cpu's. But still i know i dont want to folow the hype i just want the best compromise for my overall usage and XP.
I'm also illustrator using both 3D (+rendering) and 2D with toshop, CorelPainter and Illustrator.
Jeff
Were you using the Pro version of the Dark Rock 3? Even that would be a big ask of a 14 core CPU with a claimed TDP of 165W, but which apparently goes rather higher when stressed. I have a lot of respect for Be Quiet products, and have some Silent Wings fans on order for a drive enclosure, but I'd feel that I was pushing my luck expecting even their best CPU air coolers to keep a 7940X under control.
What do people feel is a reasonable temperature for one of the higher end i9X CPUs to operate at? 95°C is clearly too high, but we are apparently expected to accept temperatures higher than we were previously used to. It seems completely unreasonable to me that so many people are apparently having to spend $1000 on custom loop systems. In a way, it underlines the disappointment people like Mike, who I think started this thread, are feeling after spending so much money on Threadripper, and the more expensive i9X CPUs, so they are forced to spend more money to be able to carry on using their over heating systems almost by way of a face saver. It's like they are apologizing for Intel when they should be making a fuss.
What the answer is I don't really know, but a product recall and replacement with new chips with a more suitable Thermal Interface Material is not unreasonable to expect, and there are plenty of precedents ranging from millions of cell phones, many thousands of cars to less in number, but way more expensive jet airliners.
Hi all. and firstly I would like to wish you all a happy Christmas and a Prosperous new year. Well I still haven't received the replacement motherboard and CPU. well I did expect a delay with the holidays upon us now but i still hoped I would receive them before the Christmas.!
I've been using the TR-1950X system for a while now and I am finding that with the programs Im use ie. PS?LRcc Nik's silver effects pro and Corel Painter 2017 that I am reasonably happy with the speeds Im getting. Now remember that I have two faulty memory slots on my motherboard so things can only improve when I replace the board.
I will post a full report when I have the new system up and running. Here is something I found that might be of interest to those AMD owners.I know that this is with the 1700 CPU but the overclocking is the same for all AMD CPU's >>>> 8Pack - AMD Ryzen, Overclocking & Memory improvements! - YouTube
Regards.
Mike
Hey, I did the HPET fix, it didn't make much difference for me. But it seems much of what these guys in the Reddit thread is talking about is almost a bug, strange lag spikes which I havn't had. For me it is a general experience in After Effects, that the program just performs really bad with the Threadripper, its just slow in general (as you see on my two videos) It would have been awesome to see if the i9 had the same slowdowns, or if it is an AMD problem...I don't mind a top CPU not boosting AE, as long as it doesn't bog down. as AE isn't the only program I use...But currently I avoid even working on the new machine in AE.
I use the custom Noctua CPU fan for the Threadripper. I have overclocked it, I tried 3.7 and 3.9GhZ I gives no difference in the program despite the CPU runs fine and cool, even on full load.
For programs like 3ds Max which I also use and Cinema which you mention, the CPU is perfect. Because the UI doesn't slow down and the rendering speed will be super fast. But After Effects doesn't seem to use modern CPUs in any proper way at all. I will consider to upgrade my machine to the next Intel i9 series when it comes out in 2018, since I have another machine currently which I use for After Effects and Photoshop. But it's depressing. its time for Adobe to step up and modernize their software. Sadly it seems Adobe think they are on the bleeding edge of optimizations, which I read from some Adobe MAX blog from them 
(they seem to live in their own bubble tbh).
Anyway, this is just 1st world problems But for me, though I would love to support the underdog. I will never invest in an AMD CPU ever again, unless it's been thoroughly tested and proven by many many users.
Merry Xmas
Jason, what motherboard are you using, and what radiators are you using and where are they mounted and with what fan arrangements? Oh, and what sort of temperatures are you managing to hold down to?
I am still waiting for parts for my 7900X system, and I have gone with the ASRock Fatal1ty Pro Gaming i9 partly because it has a 13 phase VRM. However, I now see they have release and XE version of that board with a much bigger heatsink on the VRM, which strongly suggests that it was getting hot with the original
Original ASRock X299 Professional Gaming i9 VRM heatsink
I'd see if I could swap the board (the build has not started yet), but goodness knows how long that would take.
Jason you must be using a custom loop to be including the VRM in your water cooling. What system are you using?
BTW This thread is all over the place, but it has some interesting and useful information, so keep it coming I say.
Well Trevor. I had a look over on the EK site and put your motherboard into the search on their site. This is what came up?
Hope this helps.
Mike
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