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After Effects - the most stable release I ever had was CS3

  • October 21, 2024
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My guy, the most stable release I ever had was CS3. worked like a charm, no memory leaks, fast as F1, and I could render 2K, minute long comps in minutes in a $400 high school computer lab.

Multi-frame rendering did reduce render times, and it scaled well with cores, which is why people loved it.... then they took it away... and several years later they gave it back... and it wasn't as scalable, and even puget benchmark had a note on that, under why they no longer recommend high core counts. https://www.pugetsystems.com/solutions/video-editing-workstations/adobe-after-effects/hardware-recommendations/

for those who don't want to follow a link:
"After Effects used to make great use of high core count systems (including dual Xeon) but starting with AE CC 2015 most tasks no longer benefit from having a high number of CPU cores. This is largely due to the fact that Adobe removed the “render multiple frames simultaneously” feature in part due to the fact that they are starting to integrate GPU acceleration. While it used to be that more cores = faster, since higher core count CPUs run at a lower speed a CPU with around 8 cores will be faster than a higher core count CPU or even a dual CPU setup. Multi-frame rendering brought some of this back, but from our test data it doesn’t scale well enough for a dual CPU workstation to give an advantage over a single, high core count CPU."

the regression is real, and I'm sorry, but my experiences mirror what Puget Systems experienced;
multi-frame rendering is hugely less scalable and efficient than the simultaneous rendering hack, and the fact that they removed the faster, scalable version, and took years to give us a far inferior version speaks volumes of the lack of care and interest in maintaining a market presence, or a useful tool.

so, really, you can "Nuh Uh, I'm different!" as much as you want, to as many users as you want, but it won't stop the fact that everyone, including companies who build benchmarking software and optimize workstations to run it faster... agrees the software runs like lukewarm tar.

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      Kevin-Monahan
      Community Manager
      Kevin-MonahanCommunity Manager
      Community Manager
      December 20, 2024

      Hello @Drew12 13,

      I branched your post out of the feature request for control over the UI color. Your comment was off topic from the original poster's request. Thanks for understanding.

       

      Cheers,
      Kevin

       

      Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
      jefubbudu
      jefubbuduAutor
      Inspiring
      December 21, 2024

      Thanks. Probably a good idea. 

      Warren Heaton
      Community Expert
      Warren HeatonCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      October 22, 2024

      @jefubbudu 

      Puget Systems has a wealth of information when it comes to making informed decisions about configuring a workstation or purchasing one of their pre-built systems; however, there’s content on their website that is out-of-date. For example, After Effects no longer uses multiprocessing and the page that you link to refers to an almost ten-year-old version that does.

       

      Do me a small favor, Mr. Ubbadu, and find what Puget Systems currently recommends for “Best performance, especially with multi-frame rendering”.


      Render Multiple Frames Simultaneously is an older technology that gave us the faster render times that everyone wanted, but a headache that absolutely no one needed with third-party plugins that didn’t support running multiple instances of After Effects to speed up some processes.

      Multi-frame Rendering (MFR) is “a new technology in After Effects which utilizes all of the cores in your CPU in parallel.”  As far as using third-party plugins go, if it’s not updated for MFR then it’s effectively the same as rendering in Single-Frame Mode.

       

      If anyone is curious about what, if any, faster render time MFR provides, they can do one render pass in Multi-Frame Mode and another render pass in Single-Frame Mode. Be sure to temporarily disable Cache Frames While Idle and to purge both the disk and memory cache between each render.


      jefubbudu
      jefubbuduAutor
      Inspiring
      October 25, 2024

      I wasn't talking about now. I was talking about a previous regression, and that it hasn't been fixed. that regression being the scaling performance from low core counts to high core counts. The benefit of the old version, was that it seriously did not care- if you gave it more cores. it worked better. Now, you run into diminishing returns around 16 cores, and you're running into serious limits past 32. That is why AMD EPYC, in modern pugetbench testing, often cannot compete with their normal desktop cards, expecially when price is involved. 
      we're out in the sticks here, and off topic, but it really isn't up for debate that after effects runs poorly after over  decade of nothing but bloat.

      D
      Drew12 13
      Known Participant
      October 26, 2024

      @Drew12 13 

       

      It did.

       

      Sorry about that.

       

       I upvoted your post.

       

      I preferred the yellow highlight of CS6.

       

       


      That's OK. I totally understand how things can quickly go from one topic to
      another.
      I really liked being able to change the theme color. Now it's back to the
      boring blue.
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