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Are there any and what are the advantages of Premiere over DaVinci Resolve?

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January 20, 2023
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I have accumulated about 500 hours of editing on three different softwares including Adobe Primere in which I underwent 60 hours of training. Until now I edited as a hobbyist but the business I am establishing is starting to gain momentum and I have to make a decision. This is not the (big) cost difference with the subscription model. If things were working smmothly I wouldn't be looking for a replacement.
I got lots of frustration with Primere as a beginner and it's clear that learning a new Editing software will take valuable time. Perhaps it's a corporate logic according to which the user needs to experience the ecosystem and instill loyalty to the design language on the platform (Like Google, FB ads systems) The bottom line is that this is the most unintuitive interface among all the editing programs I've come across as a hobbyist alongside the glitches and complications I've experienced. What I do want to understand - espcialy from you - the more experienced, is whether there are any advantages (beyond popularity and sharing projects with other editors) in which Premiere is better?
The reason I'm asking here and not on general editing FB group / da Vinci forum/ is because there is a chance to find die-hard fans here who will provide arguments and reasons that I hadn't thought of.

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Mike28794481yxy2

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I am trying to make a decision between multiple platforms and frankly they all are very lackluster both in capabilities and in particular customer support. There is something very snobby about PPro and Filmora. Both seem to have customer service that believes they are doing us all a favor and forget who's paying their paychecks. I've used Movavi, Filmora, DaVinci, etc. At least with those three, you can actually try them for free without being hooked into a "you better cancel before X date or else you will be charged a 50% cancellation fee BS. That doesn't sit well with me.

I've been ghosting many threads here for a while before I decided to make a posting and it's quite shocking to see this high-falutin, flipplant attitude of the "Adobe Employees" who reply to some of these so called rants.

Regarding the softwares, Movavi was the easiest to use and can probably do 95% of what you really need to do in all honesty. The rest of the features that Filmora, PPro and DaVinci have are for the most part unnecessary and it's like changing a tire on the side of a road with a suit on. Do you need to wear a suit? No but it looks nice when you are changing that tire.

Warren Heaton

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@Mike28794481yxy2

Yes, it's important to find a NLE that meets our creative needs. We'll spend a lot of time using the software.

Movavi seems like a great solution for personal social media projects where templates can be used. It looks like they offer a 7-day to 14- dail trial period depending on the program with watermarks and "may include some other restrictions".

I'm not sure how someone would put Movavi to effective use for feature film, feature film teasers and trailers, episodic shows, broadcast and streaming promos, industrial video, corporate video, and marketing campaigns - or anything that's Enterprise level.

Something that I've always appreciated about After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Premiere Pro, Media Encoder, Animate, Adobe Type, and Audition is that if I can imagine it then I can create it be it for my professional career for for personal projects.

- Warren

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Mike28794481yxy2

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Movavi has its limitations like certain color grading isn't available. However, it can be used at Enertprise level even though it's not really featured as such. Their marketing is definitely towards a broader audience as they want to make as much money that way as they can. That said, it's not cheap. Not as cheap as one would think.

Why would you not be able to create what you imagine in Movavi? It practically does everything PPro does.

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John280371953ssc

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currently i use dr. WHat is adobe compared to it honestly. I use dr cause its free and does a good job. Is adobe better?

jw i mostly do youtube videos

i mostly do editing and add effects, music and thumbnails.

thanks

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Michael Grenadier

Legend

Personally, I vastly prefer Premiere Pro for editing, and prefer DR for color correction. Premiere's integration with photoshop and AfterEffects is a plus. But doesn't sound like you need that... If DR is working for you, not sure you need to switch.

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John280371953ssc

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just wondering if its worth switching

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SinhVTruong

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I recently started using Davinci Resolve Studio and life has improved dramatically. I don't have to run proxies, turn off FX, or do anything with my Sony S-Log footage. It scrubs so smooth and I can preview my timeline without any hiccups or noticeable lag due to a motion graphic. Lastly, in addition to Davinci's superior color grading and node structure, the export times are night and day. An edit I just did on both Resolve and Davinci exported in 30 seconds on Davinci vs 20 minutes on Premiere Pro.

I am running a Mac Studio with the M1 Max and 64gb Ram 2TB.

Why is Premiere so much slower? This is the latest version 23.1

R Neil Haugen

Legend

I run both daily on PCs. And work for/with/teach pro colorists, mostly based on Macs.

First, like all these pro video apps, they are coded from different perspectives on how to best utilize the computer resources for the broader user base. So there are major differences in 'parts' usage outta the box.

As a color app primarily, Resolve is coded to use the GPU more than Premiere, which as an editing app is more CPU based. If your GPU has some of the H.264/5 capabilities, Resolve can be better at using those at times than Premiere. And much S-log seems to be H.264/5 long-GOP media ... that might be the part right there.

Second, my desktop is a 24 core Ryzen 3960X, 128 GB of RAM, 2080Ti, two internal Nvme's, one for OS/apps, the other for all cache files. Premiere and Resolve work pretty identically to each other on my rig. In most any format/codec/effects setup.

My 4 year old Acer Triton laptop is loving Pr2023 more than previous ones (why, no clue) and is such a dog with Resolve 18 I uninstalled that app on it. Others get vastly different results.

For preference of working, I prefer the Pr UI. I do not like the locked-down Resolve UI at all. I can work in it of course, and yea, the color tools are deeper being as it is still primarily a grading app getting better at other parts. I don't enjoy working in it however.

And on your Mac, Resolve is clearly doing better. Great!

So as these apps are nothing but fancy hammers ... tools ... use what works for your clients & floats your boat. And get outta that room and back with the family as soon as possible.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Takeone.DigitalAuthor

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Thanks for the detailed answer, Neil. My average work process after arranging the material in directories / bins and creating a proxy:
1. Rough cutting
2. Synchronization of audio clips from an external recorder
3. Connecting sections, adjusting background music
4. Framing, polishing connections
5. Audio polishing of music and recording
6. Work on color

I shoot 8-10 bit on Sony's A7 cameras in 4K with a different image profile including Slog/h-log etc. Assuming I won't enter the hardware race and stay with my modest laptop - 8 GB RAM, SSD drive, 3-year-old Intel processor, and a simple video card - does DR have an advantage over PP?

Oğulcan Tokar

Inspiring

For me, short answer, no. You just lose Dynamic Link & Customizable layout, that's it. Resolve easily wins in pretty much every other field. However Creative Cloud is very useful, so i am keeping that.

I would recommend taking couple days off and prepare hotkeys and defaults, get used to ui.

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Michael Grenadier

Legend

It's not a hobbyist's tool, it's a professional tool. I have extensive experience with avid, FCP1-7 and a decent amount with Resolve. Premiere's my tool of choice.

But you're going to have to do your homework to learn and become fluent in Premiere. There are comprehensive sets of tutorials on LinkedinLearning which is not cheap, but I thnk there's a free trial. And there are lots of tutorials on youtube but a lot of crap to wade thru...

But maybe you don't need all the bells and whistles...

Another plus for premiere is it's integration with photoshop, illustrator and aftereffects. Of course those aren't simple programs to learn either... And gotta say, there's a great community here and you learn an awful lot just scanning all the posts... I can't say I've ever had a problem with Premiere that I haven't been able to solve or workaround often with the help of others on this forum (not to mention Kevin Monahan's the moderators help).

I recently supervised the restoration of a 16mm documentary from the 80's. The post house worked in resolve and when I was brought on board, the director of the film had about 10 notes of issues the post house was not able to solve... I was able to fix most of them in Premiere... Happy to describe some of them if you're interested. That's not to say that they weren't fixable in Resolve... just beyond the capabilities of the post house.

But the fact is, any professional level NLE will probably do the job with sufficient investment of time and patience. And I gotta admit that if I have a color correction problem I'm having difficulty with, I'll move it over to Resolve. It's interface feels much more sophisticated for color correction and much more responsive but it's also got a very steep learning curve when you get to the more complicated issues. And there are many things that I move over to AfterEffects to do and to Photoshop and/or Illustrator which are more difficult and cumbersome to do in Premiere.

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Mike28794481yxy2

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Pro is NOT a professional tool. It's an average software package that has been given a nice, glossy feel. For a tool to be professional level, it not only needs to have professional level capabilities but also professional level service. They two go hand in hand.

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Mike28794481yxy2

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@Mike28794481yxy2

When ranking tools as professional or not, are you accounting for what IATSE Local 700 video editors use?

You're talking very specific use case...I'm talking overall design, support, etc. from the company itself. I have almost two decades of complex FEA, product design, modeling, and 3D mapping experience using some of the top tools out there that cost $15-30k. If you want benchmarks on how a professional level tool should look like, these are the tools to look at. They are a different beast altogether.

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