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September 12, 2013
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BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera

  • September 12, 2013
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I got a call from a shooter yesterday saying he plans to get

one of these cameras (because he can use the lenses from his 16mm).

He was asking for my opinion, and I couldn't offer one.

Does anyone have any direct experience with this camera?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/964117-REG/blackmagic_design_blackmagic_pocket_cinema_camera.html

http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera

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    Steven L. Gotz
    Inspiring
    September 24, 2013

    These videos were shot with the Blackmagic.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/FriendlysRestaurant?feature=watch

    Captured to a SSD card, connected to a laptop for monitoring the scopes, RAW files to Resolve to ProRes for the edit, brought back the EDL for the color work.

    Resolve's 3D tracker to help make the eyes pop without using a key.

    (Post Magazine article from June issue.

    artofzootography.com
    Inspiring
    September 24, 2013

    Get this...

    I just heard back from the shooter, and he has scrapped the idea

    of getting the BlackMagic Camera, and bought a GH3 instead.

    able123
    Inspiring
    September 24, 2013

    Sometimes... if it's a colorist supervised xfer session.

    More often I will get 'best light' xfers, or DSLR.

    But, I am still working as I did in CS5...

    essentially an offline cut in Pr, DL to Ae for finishing.


    hmm.. okay, thanks !

    stupid DL to speedgrade is buggy..new thing in cc 'promised' is direct link instead..the usual adobe bull about features for that which will actually 'work' ...think I'll try the dpx route..with transitions etc...so basically take the chance of making a single video render from multiple ...

    Just save the original junk in Ppro if I have to step back and do over...

    hmmm....

    Steven L. Gotz
    Inspiring
    September 24, 2013
    Legend
    September 12, 2013

    There are some flaws with the camera that may not make it suitable for all situations.

    1. No time remaining indicator.  That's right, there's absolutely no way to know how much record time is left on the card.  And the time display only shows you the record time for the current clip, not all clips, so you can't even do the math and figure out how much record time is left.  It's pure guesswork, and entirely possible to run out of record time without any warning.

    2. No audio meters.  Yep, again a wholly unforgivable oversight on the part of BM.  There is absolutely no way to know what level you're recording at.  You can plug in a set of headphones and listen to make sure it isn't overmodulating, but that's hardly a precise method for professional use.

    3. Small batteries.  The Pocket Cinema Camera uses a standard Nikon battery, but not a very large one, and you only get 20 to 30 minutes of time out of any given battery.  That means you may need a couple dozen to carry around if you're in the field without power.

    4. Black Hole Sun.  There is a sensor flaw in the camera which creates a sort of 'black hole' in any area of severely overexposed highlights.  This may not be a big deal if you always have control over lighting, but can be an issue when you don't and have to overexpose a part of the frame in order to properly expose the subject.

    5. Bad audio.  You will definitely want to use double-system audio with this camera.  The built-in mics are pretty anemic, but even when a good mic is plugged in, the sound is still sub-par and not very usable.  Plan on picking up a Zoom or Tascam for use with this camera.

    Those are the factual 'flaws' with the camera.  But in my research, there is a subjective 'flaw' as well.  While the image is quite filmlike, it is very much a 16mm film look (perhaps befitting the Super 16 sized sensor), not a Hollywood film look.  Ignoring dynamic range, I feel the GH2 actually produces a more detailed, higher quality image.  The BMPCC produces a soft, almost de-focused looking image by comparison.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocp_ewJyOVU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLjy5jTvjn4

    Inspiring
    September 12, 2013

    Thanks, Jim.

    I have passed all of this along to the shooter.

    I also left the impression that I came up with all of this info on my own.

    able123
    Inspiring
    September 12, 2013

    Joe, the guys here .. I forget the guys name I spoke to...but he has posted here...

    http://www.adkproaudio.com/

    did some pretty extensive research into the BM thing, and editing the stuff.... and liked it a lot...not the pocket thing, but the first one.

    Maybe your friend could give them a call...

    for me on pc it was suggested I do some kinda avid codec instead of pro res..for best results...

    I had to shoot stills too, or I probably woulda got the BM instead of the nikon

    Inspiring
    September 12, 2013

    Thanks for nothin', you hedgehog!

    note:

    Are they involved in the 'worm periscope' research for the military?

    able123
    Inspiring
    September 12, 2013

    hehe.. no... you warthog !  The people doing research for worm periscope are really secret people ....shhhhh, dont tell anyone !

    I just wrote email to arri so I could BEG them to hook me up on phone with someone to yap about EXACTLY what I need for JUST the follow focus... nothing else...just the follow focus...( like a plate, 2 rods, the focus gizmo and a whip ).. and probably some stupid zip gear junk for the Nikkor lens.

    http://www.arri.com/camera/pro_camera_accessories/ready_to_shoot_kits.html?item=176&cHash=9444496503ca28b0262f88beca0a4256

    Also asked if they take food stamps !