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for those of you that think davinci resolve is a fully functional replacement for Premiere

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September 3, 2021
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trying to export an xml file from premiere to import to resolve. 12 shots wouldn't connect. guess why?
seems like it can't import mp4 files from a lumix camera. premiere has no issues with it. tried to just import one of the files directly into resolve... just imported the audio... updating to the latest version of resolve 17 right now to see if that makes a difference...(it doesn't). I can work around this problem by exporting just the files used in the sequence to a better format.

Another shortcoming of resolve is that it can't export prores quicktimes (at least I don't think it can) which can have a big impact on cross platform projects...

Just saying that resolve doesn't measure up in many ways to Premiere. I do much prefer resolves color correction interface and that's why I've gone down the rabbit hole today wasting a few hours so far figuring out what's going on.

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Flavio24328308rjq7

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I know this is old, but this might help: the reason why you are only getting audio when you import in DaVinci Resolve is because to use some 10 Bits codecs you need the Studio version (295 Euros). The free version can not import 10 Bit files from, for example, the Panasonic GH5. I am a very experienced editing instructor. Started teaching Avid Media Composer, Premiere Pro, FCP in 2004. Now teaching also DaVinci Resolve. I assure you: the majority of frustrations when editors compare editing programs come from a lack of trainning. Love Avid, love Premiere, love DaVinci.

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kedans360@gmail.com

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Yeah I geus but it's not nearly as Shi#tty as premiere pro with 10 plus crashes a day on a fast pc. Mpeg importer error. Adobe is running low on system memory while at the meantime the system runs on 32gb ram 3200mhz DDR4. You guys need take this program and shuf it up your a#ss. Why do you think most of your users are switching over to DaVinci Resolve? Since 2018 crashes are happening more frequently. Since I started editing on resolve for my own projects I'm a happier person in general. Unfortunately I have to use this peace of crap for some freelance jobs for other production companies. I'll never pay a monthly fee for this shi#t ever again until it stops crashing. I HAD NO PROBLEM BUY RESOLVE. IT'S A MUCH MORE STABLE NLE.

Warren Heaton

Community Expert

@kedans360@gmail.com

Hello kedans360:

A great thing about the Blackmagic Forum is that they require that you use your real name and enforce forum etiquette.

If you are experiencing 10 crashes a day, that's a workstation configuration issue. The Adobe Support Community is a great resource. Civil discussion and courtesy go a long way.

- Warren

R Neil Haugen

Legend

I'm totally down with getting more color tools in PrPro ... I made a massive rant/fuss around 'here' when the previous Adobe video super decided to kill SpeedGrade rather than rebuilding with new code.

The current head of all Adobe video/audio is Patick Palmer ... co-creator of Iridas, the grading app that Adobe bought and renamed Speedgrade. He was head of SpeedGrade for a while, then off to other projects and now back as head of all digital video apps.

And yes, he's totally into color, and has been respectfully asking up the chain for the budget for more people to do more in color since he took over. Apparently, he has a number more color devs now. The public beta just added color management options in the sequence settings for H.264 and a few other codecs. Obviously more is coming.

The public beta has a nice rectangular RGB curves tool, which I've been pushing for forEVER. And the Vectorscope is colored signal, a nice improvement. More is coming soon, says Patrick ... but they never tell us until we see it.

The "Essential" panels are actually used quite heavily by a lot of pros ... and not at all by others. Everyone doing it differently as always. For a DAW, there's Audition. Which has also been adding tools and capabilities recently.

So ... some things are finallly happening. But I want more, I want it YESTERDAY!!!! ... patience never being my strong suit.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Michael GrenadierAuthor

Legend

But maybe, just maybe, wouldn't it be better if bmd concentrated on color correction and adobe concentrated on everything else... bwdik

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Andy 1968

Inspiring

The customizations we can do with the interface, and the use of the control systems, are both helping me stay primarily with PrPro

I really find Resolve's choices for how their UI is setup incredibly annoying. As noted, friend Joey D'Anna thinks it's wondrous. And not being able to customize Resolve is fine with him ... because the UI seems 'logical' enough he got used to it easily.

But my Tangent Elements panel is heavily throttled back in Resolve. Only half the controls are available at any one time ... at most. And the way you get to most of the things that Resolve allows it to do is through choosing an option which isn't listed as a 'menu' option, but when chosen, it changes the mapping visible to the panel at that moment.

You've got to learn all the steps to get from the tool you're using to the one you want next, none of which is shown in any menu or the little display panels on the Elements. Sheer total memory. And it's the only way to get that panel used much.

Plus ... that Elements panel, in Resolve, is completely limited to the color 'page'. You can't use it for any process on any other 'page'.

But in PrPro, I can map that panel's various knobs, dials, wheels, and buttons to everything from any editing step you can think of, to running the track mixer in audio, resizing/rotating/positioning graphics ... a veritable raft of things all over PrPro.

Neil

Niel,

I agree. The GUI and hardware support of Premiere Pro is better than Resolve at this point in time but that can change. On a side note. Premiere Pro's integration with Encore was way better than what the competition had to offer but that is not the case in 2021. What is the case in 2021 is that no more than 10 days go by in these forums without a Premiere Pro user wanting to burn a DVD or Blu-ray disc for a client. I like Premiere Pro but in time I think Resolve might surpase it up. If owning Premeire Pro was a one time fee of $300.00 with unlimted upgrades no one would be anxious for Resolve to catch up to Premeire Pro but that is not the case and probably will never be the case. I like Audition but Cakewalk Sonar is completly 100% free and has been since 2017. The Adobe products are good but you cannot beat free software that works great. I can only hope at NAB 2022 Adobe will have a new pricing structure and some amazing announcements but who knows for sure?

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Jim Curtis

Inspiring

I'll add to the chorus that Resolve does export ProRes from Mac systems. I have a colleague who does color work for me occasionally, and the XML round-trip workflow is solid.

Seems to me that the Premiere devolopers are missing out on a HUGE opportunity by not making Pr as good or better at color than Resolve is, especially since everybody and their pet marmet claims Resolve is superior at color work. Rather than adding features (like inessential "Essential" panels) for amateurs, perhaps Adobe should put the PRO back in Premiere Pro, and gussy up the high-end features that pros want. To beat a dead horse, I'm specifically talking about color correction.

Why is Adobe giving customers a reason to jump ship? Their net worth is $317 BILLION+. Certainly, they could afford to spend a few bucks to make Pr PRO live up to its name.

They should also look at beefing up the audio section to be more like a professional DAW than a tacked on feature set with more inessential "Essential" features like ducking. That would be far more professionally addressed with side-chaining a compressor than the goofy way it's implemented now.

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Michael GrenadierAuthor

Legend

it's on the windows side that resolve has problems with prores which makes sense. And if you're not paying attention, it will bite you on the butt. For many people this may not be an issue but for those of use who not only work on both windows and macs in their own workspaces, but need to work with facilities that are more often windows based than not it makes life more complicated. if Adobe can reach a deal with apple to make prores work on windows, I assume blackmagicdesign could also...

Warren Heaton

Community Expert

Have you tried transcoding your footage to Blackmagic's editing CODEC? You'll need their Premiere Pro plug-in for the PR side.

if you're running macOS, ProRes import/export should work fine.

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Andy 1968

Inspiring

Warren,

Are you talking about transcoding to Blackmagic's BRAW to be used in Premeire Pro? I think mgrenadier stated Premiere Pro can play the mp4 files from the Lumix camera just fine. There is no need to transcode using Premiere Pro. That being said I think mgrenadier stated Davinci Resolve cannot playback the mp4 files from the Lumix camera ? Keep in mind Resolve can playback BRAW by defualt. No need for a plugin.

Warren Heaton

Community Expert

I am taking about being able to round trip between the two applications or simply to do what's been most common professionally for the past two decades: edit in Premiere/Media Composer/ Final Cut classic and finish in Resolve.

If you're doing a project at a level that requires finishing in Resolve, you'd avoid CODECS that are not good for editing.

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Andy 1968

Inspiring

We all have our reasons for using Premiere Pro. I have said many times Premiere Pro works much better with the Intensity Shuttle than FCPX or Resolve. Edius also works great with the Intensity Shuttle and I have heard Avid does as well. Premiere Pro also seems to work with most control surfaces better than FCPX and Resolve. I know most people don't use external hardware but I am a bit of a hardware geek.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

BlackMagic provides software (Resolve) to sell hardware. It's their model. So their program works far better with their own gear than anyone else's. And they don't allow users to mod the app workspaces nor make any changes whatever to any control surface mapping even with their own gear.

My Tangent Elements panel is half-dark when working in Resolve. And they mapped out (to me) a rather odd series of things you have to select to get to the sub-level things you can do. But of course, they want me to shell out a thousand or more for a BM panel.

I have no room for another panel, nor interest in learning a panel I can only use in Resolve, because none of their panels work with any other app. Which I find rather annoying.

That said, their color capabilities are better than anything outside of probably Baselight.

Of course, I've good friends who love to edit in Resolve. I find it as annoying as anything else with the app. Nothing's perfect, of course.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Andy 1968

Inspiring

I hip that BMD wants Resolve users to use BMD design products. That being said Resolve still does not integrate with BMD capture cards as well as Premiere Pro. Keep in mind Premiere Pro was built from the ground up to support more capture cards than any other NLE. Resolve, FCPX, Vegas, Speed Razor, Avid etc. were not. Adobe Premiere (not Premeire Pro) used to come bundled with $2400.00 capture cards $1,800.00 capture cards and even $200.00 capture cards. The other NLE were not bundled with video capture cards like Premiere Pro. That being said Adobe Premiere (not Premere Pro) did not work with a Taraga 2000 capture card as well as Avid Media Composer but times have changed. In the year 2021 BMD has had a lot of time to intergrate Resolve with thier own capture cards but they still have not done a great job.

I remember when the Taraga 2000 capture cards worked with Avid, Speed Razor, Premeire Pro, Media Studio Pro etc. Who remembers Speed Razor?

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Resolve is a color app that's had other NLE functions grafted onto it. PrPro is an editing app with other functions grafted onto it.

Once you actually think about the implications above, it's pretty easy to mentally sort where each will struggle.

And like you, I do wish they played better together.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

Hi,

Yeah, I've been through situations like this. It would be great to get a good solid workflow procedure between Resolve and Premiere Pro. I don't think we have a decent FAQ yet. Let me know what you've come up with. I have a full version of Resolve so I can help you verify anything, even on an M1 if you have one. Let me know if I can help.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio

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