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  • December 1, 2016
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I'm having a similar problem.  Having come to Premiere from FCPX, I'd recommend to all users, go to FCPX. FCPX is solid as a rock and NONE of these issues are there.  Moreover, EVERYTHING is easier in it.  EVERYTHING!  Premiere CC is a nightmare compared to FCPX.

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    shooternz
    Legend
    December 21, 2016

    I was curious about your comment regarding FCPX stability, non bugginess etc... so I thought I would check out a FCPX Forum

    Topics/subjects  looked very similar to Premiere Forum and it took no time at all to find this and many other issues...

    FCP.co Forum :: Topic: 10.3 issues (1/7)

    Issues and problems  seem to be common to NLEs but unique to different users.   Everyones mileage differs.

    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    December 2, 2016

    Which is of course exactly why so many FCPX users have migrated to PrPro. Right?

    Actually, it's not as simple as you seem to think. Most PrPro users are just firing away. Some are bugged by minor things, and a smaller group are just ground to the ground and nothing seems to work.

    For either of those latter two groups, yes, most certainly, checking out FCPX, Avid, or Resolve's NLE capabilities is simply wise and professional.

    There are as mentioned, the FCPX users that have come here, or Avid users ... and those that go from here to those. Which is all natural, even if there weren't hardware/software issues affecting some users. Different programs with different feel & tool-sets, naturally different people like one or the other.

    It would be d*** nice, of course, if the PrPro team could get the buggy behavior some have under better control ... to put it mildly.

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
    Participating Frequently
    December 3, 2016

    Actually very few FCPX users have migrated to Premiere.  FCP 7 users who never bothered to spend the week to learn X are the ones that have migrated.  Anyone who has spent a week with FCPX would never CHOOSE to go back. The only reason I have (for this project), is because my producer wanted to cut his feature in Premiere.  I agreed to do it but after a year of using Premiere, I wish I had fought him on this.  Everything but everything is harder in Premiere.  Premiere is not being well supported on the Mac. It crashes constantly. It takes an hour to load clips. It's full of gotchyas.  FCPX is stable as a piece of software is. The rare times it crashes it saves everything.  When Premiere crashes, which this new release does contstantly (on the Mac) it disconnects clips. Then takes an hour to reload everything again. Apple released their first version  (2011) without adequate features and scared away 50% of the market and many of the pro's. But, theyve upgraded the product over a dozen times and its miles ahead of any other editing system right now. Anyone who has bothered to learn X, which is a FAST learn (I know this cause I teach it), LOVES it.  It's winning back much of the market now because it's fast, intuitive, stable and FUN.  Premiere is NONE of those things.

    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    December 3, 2016

    Your experience has been very good in FCPX, which is great to hear. I'm more concerned with the work just getting done than which product ... which is why, on the de-linking of SpeedGrade from PrPro in the 10.x builds of 2015.3/4, I downloaded and have worked some with Resolve.

    Awesome program for full-time graders, and some find the Editing "mode" of Resolve quite adequate and intuitive. Me, not so much, actually. As, I've been told so many times that Mac OS's are always more "intuitive" ... yet when I've sat at a Mac, at times I haven't even been able to start programs ... seriously.

    I can get around on a PC quite nicely, thank you ... different strokes are "intuitive" for different folks.

    As you find FCPX "intuitive".  However, the assumption that what is intuitive for you and some of those you work with is therefore categorically better and more intuitive for everyone ... that's not a foregone conclusion.

    To me? Apple ... what a bunch of kindergartners. Completely paranoid of anyone else touching let alone "using" their stuff ... such as say, ProRes. Really professional behavior to completely deny the utilization of a major codec because of the OS of other potential users. The last couple OS releases have been a pain in the backside for so many vendors ... it was a huge topic of aisle-way discussions outside the major pro-video equipment vendor booths at the last couple NAB's. Used to be, they'd get plenty of time to test a new OS before release, and when they found problems, someone was seriously interested in both listening & helping ... and seeing if they could fix something on Apple's part before roll-out.

    Now ... short notice times, poor attitude on the part of the staffers they attempt to work with ... and this is from folks that are about as Mac-centric as you can get. All noting they get better relations with Redmond than Cupertino these days as far as OS stuff. Shaking their heads, seriously feeling abandoned.

    But then, with a CEO who seriously questions why anyone would buy a desktop these days ... right.

    Major colorist friends are now teaching how to leave Mac behind, as for several years now there's been no significant increase in hardware horsepower in big Macs. None. Not even mentioned the last few cycles. So ... they're teaching how to build PC's running either just Windows or dual Windows/Linux OS's.

    With all the multi-K and HDR stuff coming out, the old ... almost what, five year old basic mobo of the big Macs? ... hardware just can't tack on enough gizmos to keep up.

    Kinda funny to watch the vids ... having to point out that gee, there's all sorts of calendaring options also in Windows ... who knew! So you can actually do most anything you've been used to doing, just the UI might be a bit different.

    I'm rather disappointed in Apple, personally. Never used their stuff, but ... I do prefer stiff competition in the things I use. And Apple seems to be abandoning serious desktop computing. They used to be so cool with it ...

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
    Known Participant
    December 2, 2016

    This software is so expensive for our company - I can´t explain. Crash, crash, crash.

    Will never edit with Premiere - it´s all over now ...

    Just want to export old projects, but even this is not possible. Grrrrr ...

    Unbelievable. We try since 12 hours to export projects on three macs - all of them are crashing.

    Our workflow: export projects as XML, open them with FCPX, export, ready. No problems.

    Adobe - I will never ever buy any products of your company!

    And I want my money back!

    I´m the only one?

    We talk ...

    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    December 2, 2016

    Perhaps Kevin-Monahan​ might be of assistance ...

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...