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January 5, 2025
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Welcome to walled gardens!

  • January 5, 2025
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Welcome to walled gardens! Buy a new computer, and then you can pay for software you don't own AND use it! Because you know, these reason you can't just download an old version, or update your OS is to protect the public's experience of the product. Can't have you unable to find support for something a decade old, and it would be terrible if for some reason your version didn't have all of the changes that the new version does. After all, they worked real hard on that and lots of investors clapped.

 

Really though, there is a reason I don't suggest this combo to my friends and colleagues. Having two ecosystems which both limit versioning in different ways is a fast way to get your workflow nuked. The fact that you lose access to things you've previously been able to have is also a crying shame. I'm still on CS6 because perpetual lisence, and it's running faster and smoother than anything AE 2017+... and I suspect it"'s half because my computer is a 2017, and because adobe software is famous for bloat and poor usage of novel hardware.

 

Mod note: Branched and moved to the Video Lounge. Title was changed.

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      jefubbudu
      jefubbuduAuthor
      Inspiring
      January 17, 2025

      That's the neat part, you're not allowed to! You don't own AE so Adobe can tell you what versions you are and aren't allowed to use! Oh you had plugins like trapcode for AE 2014? Too bad.

       

      If you want older versions of software you need to look for open source or a company with better customer service... or one that will do the bare minimum to make itself attractive for a real company or power user.

      kglad
      Community Expert
      kgladCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      January 27, 2025

      if you install an older version (and don't uninstall it) you can continue to use it when adobe no longer offers it.  of course that doesn't diminish this threads point.

      kglad
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      kgladCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      January 30, 2025

      Technical debt doesn't go away. On last check there were over 400 addons that ship built in, addons that could now be core functonality. The fact that most effects don't use GPU is technical debt, the entire RAM preview systwm hasn't been chamged much from the early 2000's, or at all from 2013, despite there being new technologies to do that thing. After effects still frontloads 90% of its everything into one core, because changing this pile of spaghetti code into something modular and easily multithreaded is a task fit for a diety, not a crew of 14 working on software that's older than half of them. There have been so many fixes over the years that were meant to be temporary but aren't, heck, they redid the UI... and it STILL doesn't properly assign itself a different thread than the core operations thread. I would say to just put the core functions and UI on their own threads, so no matter what the UI is snappy and rendering doesn't slow down RAM previews or caching but nooooo.

       

      That's technical debt. All the ways the world changed around them, and all the ways they made temporary changes that became permanent.

       

      https://youtu.be/aVNCgmAsI8c?si=_St5DWMplEaGBbb4&t=1840

      Said really well here at this timestamp


      i misunderstood what you meant by technical debt.  i meant adobe denies responsibility for problems with older versions and offers no help with older versions.

      jefubbudu
      jefubbuduAuthor
      Inspiring
      January 5, 2025

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