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November 11, 2013
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  • November 11, 2013
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  • Noobs that refuse to RTFM
  • FCP converts that persist in converting to intermediate formats
  • Noobs that use non-editable material and complain all the time
  • Jungfrau marathon after 37.8 km
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    the_wine_snob
    Inspiring
    November 12, 2013
    1. Folk who treat the answers to simple questions (What platform are you on? What are the specs. of your Source Footage? What is your Project/Sequence Preset? What are the specs. of your Export? etc.) as "state secrets," and keep complaining that NOTHING works.
    2. Folk who will get a dozen replies to a question/problem, never revisit that thread again, but will then post the same question to the same forum again, and again.
    3. Folk who shoot 4K, then output to DVD-Video, and complain that the resultant disc is not as crisp as their original 4K footage, and blame their copy of Premiere for that.
    4. Folk who would watch a televised marathon, in real-time...
    5. Folk who see clear, sunny days in the UK, this time of the year... Last month, we arrived just as a "named storm" swept through the Isles!

    Hunt

    able123
    Inspiring
    November 12, 2013

    If I come back here will that be some weird signal that Jim Simon will then post 5 pages of " the world according to Jim " ?  Or is he now ( thank Gawd ) one of the actors on that new reality TV show " Survivors On Desert Island " and won't be back until 22 episodes are in the can ?

    The suggestion that a fake poster credit to sell a fake movie won't be taken as a suggestion somebody actually BECOMES a director.

    ( burp, scuse me , its BEER THIRTY YIPEE ! )

    I take umbrage ( is that the word I want ? ) with the 4k debacle. I shot red test stuff on card limited to 2k on card and had to downscale using redcine X to mov h264 using the mouse... just to get it INTO the mouse... and the quality suffered a lot ( and thank gawd Jim asked if I would ever do color correction on that sample I shared , cause it really helped me to get beat up in a forum where nobody has cc monitors anyway , least of all me who is color blind anyway ).

    My opinion is that if someone wants to take 4k footage, put it in a paper bag and set it on fire, and leave it at some creepy neighbors front door , ring their bell and run away , on Halloween.. more power to them !

    able123
    Inspiring
    November 17, 2013

    OK, it was Warren & Ackerman. I do not recall Warren, but Ackerman was prominent in the magazine. Think that he might have had a brother involved too, but that was so very long ago.

    I only got the mag's title partially correct, as it was Famous Monsters of Filmland.

    Back, long before Star Trek and the "trekkies," we were into monsters. Somewhere (if the roaches did not eat them), there are about 4 8mm "monster" films, that we did with my father's Kodak movie camera. I do not think that we edited, other than in-camera. Let's just say that our VFX were rather limited to gobs of plaster, and some paint. We had never heard of Woochie prosthetic devices, so our "monsters" were very rudimentary, and as the plaster was hard, not very animated. Still, kicks for a little "film-nerd," way back when.

    Hunt


    hehe.. funny... I woulda LOVED shooting stuff when young like you did with Dad. How cool !

    When in grade school ( K thru 5 ? ) I got a little " certificate " from school for running the 16mm projector during various breaks and stuff ( buncha kids in some auditorium watching cartoons and stuff ). I used to panic when film got broke or stuck in gate and you'd see those ugly blobs of BURNING FILM if you didn't shut off the lamp fast enough !  OMG !  hehe.. was fun.  Was my first experience with splicing, making nice 'loops' in mitchell movement, etc.

    The kids were ruthless.. would SCREAM their heads off if something bad happened to the film projection

    I lived in fear every moment of my early projectionist responsibiliy.

    Anyway, fangoria was another big monster mag. The father passed it on to his son, and his son decided to produce a trio of monster movies ( was a deal with below line guys in WI who had a new film studio made from an abandoned girl scout camp in the woods ).  My first "key" jobs were the first 2 of those movies and I got fired before the last of the 3 ( I was wild in those days ).

    Hope the kid made out okay. The 3rd was so bad it never got released ( had oliver reed as the lead in the 3rd one ).  From what I heard, several bad things happened during the production of 3rd movie. They woulda been better off to keep ME ON IMO.  What happened was, the girlfriend of one of the 2 producers who owned studio ran off with all their money one day. Just opened safe, took money and left.  About the same time the new key grip took the entire grip dept. paychecks ( on those days it was cash in envelopes ) and ran away to Chigago and bought about a pound of cocaine, and was never seen again.  Then oliver reed got really drunk every day and didn't wanna work unless one of the producer guys would wrestle with him in the dirt first. Oliver was a good wrestler.

    hehe... you can see one of the producer guys as the one who did those scary movies about some guy who has a lot of pins stuck in his head.

    Mine were children of the night and timewarp or something.  Children of the night went pretty well except when karen black REALLY BIT the young girl playing a lead part. She would yell, " OW, YOU'RE HURTING ME ! " .. then you would hear " CUT " and so on.

    Steven L. Gotz
    Inspiring
    November 12, 2013

    You get tired after a few months. It just gets worse as time goes on so most of us develop a live and let live attitude.

    Truthfully, what happens is that you stop answering the questions for a while, then, one day, you realize nobody has answered, so you get roped back into answering. You do this until you get good and tired again, and the cycle continues.

    Reading the manual is old fashioned, don't you know? So I just keep pointing them to the Eagle and to the Creative Cow tutorials. I continue to say nice things about Lynda.com - would you believe that I still get paid a little every month for my Premiere Pro 1.5 tutorials from 2004? Lynda is really a delightful, intelligent, competant woman. I had lunch with her one day and it was quite memorable.

    I can understand why they thyink that an intermediate is needed, but we just have to keep at it. We need to get the point across as best we can by telling them to try it out for themselves.

    As for non-editable media, I don't believe that there really is such a thing. Not really. There are always going to be people who try to edit highly compressed video, but that is their problem. They will have to get used to the fact that Premiere Pro is not designed to stitch together media without a loss in quality. We are going to see more and more of this as more and more people figure out that they can accomplish a lot with a free trial, and that $50 per month is a bargain if they use enough of the programs. But almost all media can be edited. It is just the quality that is an issue. I was surprised to find that FLV files are not supported anymore. Seems like a mistake to me.

    I have never run more than a 20K run. And the only marathon I have ever watched was the women at the 1984 Olympics.

    artofzootography.com
    cc_merchant
    Inspiring
    November 12, 2013

    Running feels like this:

    Glacier 3000 Run

    Jungfrau Marathon

    Participating Frequently
    November 12, 2013

    A guy on another forum who persists in advising users of Window editing programs to convert source files to Prores.

    He really bugs me when he advising Edius users to convert to Prores when Edius probably has the best transcoding software there is should you have a PC that cannot handle native material.

    A certain user on this forum who has many posts and yet persists in degrading others who give advice that is either in conflict with his (clue there as to gender) or an alternative.

    Idiots who post.....................will someone make me a promo?

    Those who post a question when someone else has posted the same query a few posts earlier

    Finally.............that Adobe does not acknowledge that many, many users do not want a subscription system, especially when it is extorting more money out of us than upgrades did.

    Reading posts on the Adobe forums about bugs, here, bugs there.............................there product development really sucks at times

    Rant over

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    On the plus side, its 11:15 here in the UK, and I am pondering why am I sat here talking to you guys when I could be outside under the blue cloudless skies (a rarity at this time of year)?  Where is my gardening kit?  Bye

    Col

    John T Smith
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    November 11, 2013

    1 - by the time they ask a question for the "2nd... 3rd... 4th... whatever" time when they have been told they need to RTM

    2 - no comment, I'm on Windows

    3 - see answer #1

    4 - I don't run (bad knee)

    Community Expert
    November 11, 2013

    1- Most would be better off with Elements

    2- Post Houses that only accept Prores, I'm on a PC

    3- Phone makers that use variable frame rate

    4- I let my son do the running