Type & Typography

Are there any plans to produce a version of the EditOTFMetrics plug-in that will work with InDesign CS? If not, can InDesign 1.5 amd CS coexist on the same machine (with Mac OS 10.3)? The error message I get opening InDesign CS is: >Adobe InDesign cannot load the EditOTFMetrics >plug-in. The EditOTFMetrics plug-in requires the 2.1 >version of Adobe InDesign. Please contact the >vendor to get a compatible version of >EditOTFMetrics. JP

I need to find out what font was used on this (not so great) logo. You can see it on the restaurant's home page at http://www.boatyardgrill.com/ ... any help would be greatly appreciated. I need to recreate (and hopefull repair) it for print. Thanks! Eric

Hi, at work if my boss creates a document in Word or Power point on WIN in Franklin Gothic. He then sends it to me who works on a Mac 9.2 and she opens it in her mac version Word or Power point the fonts are all wrong even though she has Franklin Gothic on her computer. The questons is does Open fonts cure this problem? Or I'm having problems somewhere else! Many thanks for any advise. S

I've been following the example PDF layouts in the free PDF document on how to create PDFs from scratch and I'm having a few problems. I thought the PDFs I had created were the same as the ones outlined in the examples but I keep getting something like "..file was damaged and now repairing.." pop up for a brief second and then disappear. The PDF (just text right now) then comes up looking fine. Can anyone suggest a reason (or reasons) why I might be getting this? I have the example PDF on hand and can e-mail it if anyone can help me out. I would really, really appreciate any help on this. Thanks. Rob

I have Adobe Poppl-Laudatio (which Adobe doesn't even sell anymore) I would like to convert it to Open Type to eliminate some major cross-platform issues. BUT - I have no experience in ANY kind of programming. Anybody know of a utility for the common folk? Or is this FDK something I (non-techie designer) could ever learn to use? Thanks ~Cathleen sorry - should add I am using Windows XP and sending files to MAC

Hi all I went to buy the frutiger fonts (9fonts) from adobe. The format is open type which is what I want. B ut when going to buy them I am asked whether I want mac or windows format. I thought open type fonts were cross platform? We have both MACs and PCs, if I want the font on both do I have to buy both formats ? Link to font: http://store.adobe.com/type/browser/P/P_1186.jhtml Thanks for any help, sorry for this being off topic but I couldn't see where else to post. gerryR

I am pleased to announce that we have posted the programming details and schedule for the ATypI Type Tech Forum and FontLab workshop. These seminars are associated with the ATypI Prague conference, and run immediately prior to the conference, September 29-30, 2004. One admission fee entitles attendees to mix and match sessions between these two tracks. Regards, T Thomas W. Phinney Program Manager Fonts & Core Technologies Adobe Systems

Hi Has anyone got the FDK working in Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther)? It looks like FinishInstall.py only works with tcsh, and not bash (which is what Panther uses by default). I have run FinishInstall.py with ~/ as my working directory, but all attempts at running MakeOTF.py have failed. (I am trying to generate the example font AdobeGaramondPro.) I get errors involving tracebacks and no tkinter support, which I would have thought of as given. If you *are* running the FDK in Panther, I'd like to hear of it so that I know my efforts were the result of ignorance rather than impossible circumstance. Thanks, Will Robertson

Hello, I would like to use photoshop's font to put in pictures I sell. I would like to know if the fonts are free if I have bought Photoshop, or if I have to pay even if I have already pay the Photoshop program ? I don't know if the fonts on my PC are free. I thank you very much for the answers, and apologise my poor english : I'm french, and I forgot many words ! ... Vera Bel

I am looking for comprehensive literature on fonts, character sets etc. for cross-platform foreign-language typography. What applications support which technologies, and how to get from one platform to the other without losing encodings, diacritics etc. Any ideas where I can find something more in-depth than on adobe, quark etc. websites?

Dont know if this is a FDK or FontLab question, it depends a little bit on the answer. I try it here; its maybe not OK to discuss FDK related issues in a public forum like the MSN FontLab one. So, what is the exact definition of a hint overlap? Are two touching hints, e.g. a vhint starting at position 30 with a width of 40 and the next vhint starting at position 70, overlapping or not? I cant find anything about this in the T1 spec. The reason Im asking is that FDK and FontLab (at least 4.6.0.0/Win) seems to have different opinions about this. FDKs compiler warns when finding touching hints. The same is true for the hint width checking feature in Compare Family. FontLab however, does not warn for touching hints and it does not insert a hint replacement when applying the auto replace command. /mårten

Attached is the latest version of my article on font formats, for your reference. Cheers, T

The OpenType fonts in Adobe's library (at least the few I've looked at) have the embedding flag set to Print and Preview only. This has the effect of locking any pdf (or other) file and making the document uneditable by any recipient who doesn't own the appropriate fonts. This is separate from whatever security settings apply to the document. This IS the way it's supposed to work. My possibly unanswerable question is: What is the advantage (to Adobe or any other interested party) in making the embedding flags Print and Preview versus Editable (still not installable)? - Herb

When executing MakeOTF from the command line, it sends basic compile info to stdout. Is it possible to catch the same info when using the MakeOTF module from within a script as an imported module? I can't find anything about this in the docs and nothing seems to be returned as far as I can see. /mårten

I recently switched from OS9 to Panther and upgraded to Adobe CS Premier. I would like to use OTFs, but it's really becoming a pain!! I've been using Illustrator, InDesign, Freehand, Photoshop Pagemaker, FileMaker etc. for 15 years and all my old files were done with Postscript fonts. When I open any of these old files, the PS fonts (no loger loaded in Extensis Suitcase) are not recognized and all text blocks in a document must be changed to OTF versions. This is a pain and often very time consuming in large projects using many fonts. Some programs, such as InDesign, offer a font substitution dialog box to select the new OTF fonts as substitutions, but Illustrator, for example, does not. I have a huge map project done in Illustrator that I need to revise for four color process output. I can see that this will be almost a three day job, just changing the fonts out. There's got to be a better way. I don't want to keep duplicate PS and OTF fonts (with all the problems that would entail)

Hello, OpenType Support. I've bought the Minion Condensed Pro font on Jun 06 2002. Order Number: 4591333271329525. The kerning of this font is really bad. I would like to discuss an opportunity of replacement with newer version of a font (if it exists). Or maybe, you can make the kerning better. Please, contact me: kochin@paratype.com

While creating a CFF font which contains the WE as well as the CE character set, it causes problems with most of Adobe programs (Photoshop 7, Illustrator 10, Photoshop Elements 2.0) under Mac OS X. Problem: the accented characters get replaced by Helvetica (Photoshop) or Myriad (Illustrator). Only InDesign treats it right. I tested under Mac OS X 10.2 as well as 10.3; no difference. I tested on 'old machines', but fresh machines as well (machines which didn't have the fonts installed before); no difference. All the same problem. Deleting the CE characters solves the problem, but yeah, I want to create a CFF font which contains both character sets. Generating the font in FontLab or FDK doesn't make any difference. So, what's the solution? Sounds like a mystery. Bas

I have noticed that in Adobe OpenType fonts that they have renamed the fi and fl ligatures f_i and f_l with the same unicode FB01 and FB02. In non-Unicode apps like Quark can they recognize the f_i and f_l characters? Nigel

I'm trying to write a script that will automatically copy the new OpenType Fonts to the fonts folder on a Windows 2000 machine with SP 4. The script basically just copies those fonts from a directory to the fonts folder. Do I have to do anything else? After I copy the fonts I can't view them in Microsoft work until I manually open the fonts folder. Is there a way around this. The script would be useless if the user had to manually open the fonts folder.

hallo, I have problem to make ordinals substitution working: sub [one one.small one.osf] s' t by s.superior sub [one one.small one.osf] s t' by t.superior (I have also tried sub [one one.small one.osf] s.superior t' by t.superior in any case I alwas get this result /one /s.superior /t it seems to me that any substitution with the target glyph in the end of the string longer than two glyphs is not working and I cannot find the reason why. but it is working when the target glyph is in the middle. any ideas? thanks a lot for any hint pavel

I read a comment by Thomas Phinney that it was a "Bad Idea to create a new font with the same names info as an existing font in a different format." What if you are going to replace a Type 1 font with OpenType, is that still a "Bad Idea" and why? Nigel

Im using windows XP. Ive been trying to convert some of my fonts created in fontographer to OTF. So far, I have had no success. When I import the .ttf or type one font, it will create a file that windows recognizes as an OTF, (with no errors from makeOTF) but when I click on it it says it is not a valid font file. When I open the file with MS VOLT, there are not characters in it. When I run the font that doesnt work through a troubleshooting program and have it create a proof sheet, everything comes out. Nothing opens it as an OTF font- not ATM, nothing. I have not been using a features file with it, but that didnt seem to effect the sample provided by adobe. I have tried adobe type 1 files that also fail, so I dont think its a fontographer problem. Sorry for such a newbie question. JDooley

im a novice when it comes to font development. i want to convert mac math fonts to pc-compatible fonts. ive been trying to follow the guidelines on how to do it but i cant seem to have an output. dont know how python works and i dont know if my files are correct. i have "PalatBol, PalatBolIta, Palatino, PalatIta and PalatRom" and some other mac math fonts. so how do i put it in features file, etc. and what is "an outline font" mentioned in the overview? i dont see also the window wen i double-click on the makeotf.py (regarding makeotf.py, mentioned and shown on page 2 of the documentation). pls help me as i have a deadline to meet. im pc-based by the way. thank you very much.

Why is the display of OTF glyphs in both InDesignCS and IllustratorCS palettes differ from OTF font to OTF font. For example some fonts start with the "space" character, others start with "exclamation" Then after the asciitilde the order of glyphs vary substantially. Thanks Nigel

Hi, I hame some font problem with Mac OS 9 I can't resolve... I use the Adobe Font Postscript "Univers Condensed" on a printer with Bold attribute and the output is not correct. I don't see any bold charater on the paper. On any software in MacOS9, I type some text with the font "Univers 57 Condensed". When I apply the bold attribute to this text, I see the bold result on the screen. When I print the document to a PostScript printer I don't see any text in bold. I think that the link between these two font are not maked properly in the suitcase. The attributes of these fonts are : ------------------------------------- Plain font : Univers-Condensed Type : Postscript Suitcase : Univers Condensed Version : 001.001 Family : Univers 57 Condensed Foundry : Adobe Systems Font ID : 14876 Screen Font : Univers-Condensed Printer Font : UniveCon ------------------------------------- Bold font : Univers-CondensedBold Type : Postscript Suitcase : Univers Condensed Version : 001.001 Family :