
Bill Gehrke
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Bill Gehrke
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‎May 17, 2018
10:17 PM
About the only way they could be out of order is if you actually ran the two MPEG2-DVD tests out of order. If you reran the Statistics.vbs script again and captured a screen grab rather than getting this which shows my laptop having an MPE gain of 10.9. You would see this change for line 3
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‎May 17, 2018
01:27 PM
Thank you Randall but I would not be as optimistic on that CPU only test, For instance a 4-core 8-thread i7-7700 turbo at 4.2 GHz scores 485 seconds. I would guess it would more likely be in the 500 second or maybe even 600 seconds range..
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‎May 16, 2018
06:44 PM
Here are the results in the Output.csv file. "705","150","54","147", Premiere Version:, 12.0.0.224 It is not practical to run Premiere pro editing over an Ethernet attached disk drive as you can see from your 705 seconds score which is 52 MB/sec write transfer rate. You really desperately need a local SSD for your Project and Media files. i am going to jump to the last score above (CPU only intensive test) which is 147 seconds which is an impossibly low number for any i5 CPU. You must have not followed the setup instructions. The third number is probably in the ball park but with the above two problems may not be valid. And with the GTX 1060 both the second and third numbers should be significant lower.
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‎May 16, 2018
10:50 AM
Your i5-4660 is only 4-core with no hyperthreading where the i5-4800 is 6-cores also with no hyperthreading, more CPU power. so yes the GTX 1060 will do better but most people recommend i7 CPU's with hyperthreading for good results editing Premiere. If you really want to see the total CPU, GPU, and storage analysis, download and run Premiere Pro BenchMark (PPBM) and run it and SUBMIT the results.
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‎May 14, 2018
06:25 PM
It just so happens that that export time is how I and you can judge the efficiency of your CPU's tuning for running Premiere. So the lower that score is, the better the chances are that you can play a time line without loss of frames. But it goes to show you that it all depends the media and what processing you are doing. So your 30-40% CPU usage will only your project and media and the next guy will have more or less CPU usage Here is a complex project with 7-layers and many different media show lots more CPU usage 40-100% on my 8-core with all cores involved.
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‎May 14, 2018
02:46 PM
gigeli82367597 wrote It's quite simple, the better the hardware you get the more CPU power will sit IDLE, get a 6 core and you might get 50% load on timeline, get 8 core and you might get 30%, no matter the cpu cores you will still stabilize with 1 core in several minutes, i know, other software do this in seconds with all cores. I hate to disagree but here is my 8-core i7-5960x running at 4.5 GHz and it runs at my full overclocking speed for 250 seconds
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‎May 14, 2018
12:16 PM
Well let measure the power of your machine with Premiere Pro. I have a BenchMark using Premiere Pro (PPBM) that will test the CPU, GPU and storage to see how well your components work together while you are running Premiere. Download, unzip, run the project file that corresponds to your current Premiere version with your GTX 1080 enabled. After running the four timeline exports SUBMIT them back to me and we will respond with feedback on how well you are tuned for Premiere. I do have a very good test score from an i9-7900X MOD'S, I believe this really should be in the Premiere Hardware forum
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‎May 14, 2018
10:59 AM
Very great idea Bob. I believe on occasion my ASUS laptop power button has been sticky and while it does start up on a few occasions the computer turns right off. I think you solved that one for me. I have got to get a compressed air bottle to see if I can clean around the power button with about 4-years of heavy usage. If you have this keyboard option try changing the settings
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‎May 12, 2018
01:10 PM
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Just on a technical basis after looking at this Cinebench single threaded and multithreaded test results I would easily select the Ryzen 7 2700X processor. We know that Puget's testing showed the i7-8700K ideal for AE with its single threaded architecture. But this new guy the Ryzen 7 2700 X has very good single threaded performance and only slightly less that the i7-8700K, but much, much better multithreaded performance for Premiere. So it depends on what primarily use. Sorry, but I do not know what dynamic link software architecture uses, but as you can see even if it is single threaded technically I would still choose the Ryzen EDIT! I just found the Puget data for AE and the new Ryzen's. It does not change my conclusions above for multiple Adobe CC programs, I still think I would go with the Ryzen 7 2700X
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‎May 11, 2018
06:04 PM
How about the new ultra fast 6-core i9-8950HK laptops (4.8 GHz Turbo) will handle anything you throw at it. Of course only $3000 to $5000. Aorus X9 DT (i9-8950HK, GTX 1080, FHD) Laptop Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews XPS 15 Inch 9570 High Performance 4K Laptop with InfinityEdge | Dell United States B&H Photo Video​ ASUS MSI GT Series GT75 TITAN 4K-071 17.3" 4K/UHD IPS Intel Core i9 8th Gen 8950HK (2.90 GHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 32 GB M…
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‎May 11, 2018
05:20 PM
I suggested your testing of Premiere earlier but have not heard from you, Many times we can cure performance problems with a few simple steps of tuning. But unless you give us some performance numbers (the Output.csv file) and detail specifications (the Speccy file) we cannot know what to suggest.
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‎May 11, 2018
02:44 PM
Well I tried my best.
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‎May 11, 2018
02:05 PM
Thanks Neil ! Download my Premiere Pro BenchMark (PPBM) and Submit your results to give us your test results and machine info. There are four exports with specially construed timelines to test your CPU, GPU and storage. FYI, I just took a GH5 4K 10-bit, one minute long clip to my well tuned 8-core i7-5960X @ 4.5 GHz and ran it at full resolution with zero lost frames. It has 5 cuts with each subclip having some effect, admittedly not very complex.
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‎May 10, 2018
03:25 PM
diesel5598 wrote Bill, I'm not sure your test is accurate. Passmark is not Premiere. PPBM has been run 1000's of time and helped hundred's of people make Premiere run properly
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‎May 10, 2018
01:58 PM
First of all the only spec that means anything for video editing with the CDM benchmark are the sequential read and write Something lousy with MSI's implementation of that 2x samsung SM961 256gb raid 0 The individual sequential read specification for a SM961 is 3100MB/s where you show only 1725 MB/s for the pair in RAID 0 ???? Does this MSI GT75VR have a more complete model number? Is it a stock item if we want to dig out more internal details? MSI now has brand new Intel I9 models, is this one of those "dream" 6-core guy's?
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‎May 10, 2018
10:44 AM
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Thank you Neil. Run my Premiere Pro BenchMark (PPBM) and SUBMIT the results. I will try to help you.
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‎May 10, 2018
10:36 AM
My name is not Eric and I do not have the resources of ADK to learn from but here is my suggested configuration. Definitely break the NVMe RAID it is a terrible waste of fast SSD's Use your 2.5" SSD for your OS/Applications Use one of your NVMe m.2 256GB SSD's for your current project and the media associated with it, I f you have a number of current projects or large projects use the second one also but no RAID just as another SSD. Use your 1TB SATA M.2 SSD for backup/archiving Temp/Scratch does not need a dedicated drive just room on any of your SSD's. Forget my setup if Eric has other ideas
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‎May 09, 2018
06:23 PM
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Your score on the Disk I/O test is the performance you would get from a Hard disk drive. Why are you exporting the a clunky old hard disk drive when you have in your words a NVMe storage spaces direct RAID system. What of your storage devices are in this system. I sure cannot recommend this configuration based on your PPBM test results. This is a software item which is probably the reason you CPU intensive score is higher than another test of of this CPU. If you can set up a reasonable sized demo project to download I wil run the project on my i7-5960X ECBowen​ Do you know anything about this Understanding the cache in Storage Spaces Direct | Microsoft Docs
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‎May 09, 2018
05:33 PM
diesel5598 wrote Thanks, definitely not what I wanted to hear though. I wanted a 2U rackmount workstation and the Dell was the only one that seemed to provide that without doing a custom build from scratch, it still seems odd that the performance monitoring tools do not show the CPUs as pegged; I guess the tools I am using aren't showing the actual latency within the clock cycles. I wonder why Premier does not offload that processing power to the GPU, I would think if it did that then the CPU would not be as important. I know Davinci Resolve uses the GPU a lot more than the CPU, it would be great if Premier did more with the GPU. Bill, I'm confused by your reply, I'm not sure if you are saying the test results are good or bad.
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‎May 09, 2018
05:01 PM
Most every one with successful new systems uses at least one separate SSD for project, project media and export files especially desktop workstations. Use those antique hard disk drives only for backup and archiving.
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‎May 09, 2018
03:22 PM
This is insane. Your test results "1. Your Disk I/O time = 115 seconds. This means your Premiere disk write rate is 322.54 MB/second." Yet you make this statement "I did take into consideration that RAID 5 is not the best for performance, but this is not ordinary RAID 5, this is an NVME storage spaces array using Windows 10"
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‎May 09, 2018
12:28 PM
Now that I reread this thread there is one item that jumpedout for me, RAID 5 is lousy for any function in video editing. It is designed for data base applications where your have lots of short read/write activity, not sequential files. When I get a few minutes I have a GH5 10-bit file sample that I am going to play with later
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‎May 09, 2018
10:12 AM
Since you did not formally SUBMIT your results, I reconstructed your Output.csv file so I can have it all in front of me in a familiar format so I can better comment, Here it is: "301","261","30","287", Premiere Version:, ? GTX 770, i7-8700K @ 4.5GHz Do not compare your results to the previous screen grab,.here is a subnittal that I got that has some very good scores with an i7-8700K at I believe 4.0GHz: "30","52","12","256", Premiere Version:, 12.0.1.69, GTX1080 Ti First look at the last numbers 287 versus 256. Your CPU intensive score at 4.5 GHz should be quitea bit better You must have some processes or programs running that are keeping you from an ideal score. The third numbere are that same timeline but this time with GPU acceleration and they look proper and of course when you test your GTX 1070 that number will drop to the low 20's. The second number is the ultra complex H.264 timeline which is both GPU and CPU dependent but I am also guessing the we might have run out of Video RAM requiring more CPU power. The first number is the Disk Intensive timleline export and it appears that it was to a harddisk drive rather than a SSD, You ask whar export device it takes to get my result it was a Samsung 960 Pro but here are other results versus export time.
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‎May 08, 2018
06:03 PM
Sorry but I cannot comment any tonight. Generally looks ok
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‎May 08, 2018
12:57 PM
Sounds like a good setup, how about testing with my Premiere Pro BenchMark (PPBM)?
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‎May 08, 2018
12:32 PM
GPUSiffer look fine. Yes, CUDA should be on when you start and in STEP 3 you turn it off and in STEP 4 you turn it back on. If you get this type of error message when you run the script if means the script cannot find the export files CUT (do not Copy) and paste the four export files to the Project folder where the Statistics file is located. And you should see something like this popup window
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‎May 07, 2018
07:06 PM
Run GPUSniffer.exe in a cmd window and let us see the info about your GPU's like this. Run Premiere Pro BenchMark and SUBMIT the results
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‎May 07, 2018
06:32 PM
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Thank you Neil Dell 7910 Rackmount Workstation Have you tuned that Dell to get rid of all the garbage that they install at the factory?
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‎May 07, 2018
06:24 PM
I ran the project on this laptop, Ctrl-M, Direct export. MPE software only, I then turned on CUDA from this laptop GTX 765 And guess what my CPU usage dropped significantly as the GPU was doing all the work But much faster
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‎May 07, 2018
12:05 PM
robotrapids wrote Why does my CPU only use up to 25% of load when converting a file or rending a simple video using either Premiere or AME with Software Only enabled as the renderer? Do you have a small file size Premiere project example you could post so we can run that project to see what the usage is on my computers
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