P: Introducing the Project Indigo camera app

Participating Frequently

If I use Indigo to take a DNG+JPG and then use LR Mobile to import the images, it will only import the DNGs. The JPGs are not imported to LR Mobile. Is there anyway to ensure that both versions are imported or can this be added as a feature to LR Mobile? I have the same issue when trying to import DNG+JPG pairs created by other apps (such as Halide).

My workaround is to open each DNG+JPG in Apple Photos and use the share option to Edit in Lightroom. That then brings the JPG into LR Mobile but this has to be done one image at a time, which is cumbersome.

Adobe Employee

If I use Indigo to take a DNG+JPG and then use LR Mobile to import the images, it will only import the DNGs. The JPGs are not imported to LR Mobile. Is there anyway to ensure that both versions are imported or can this be added as a feature to LR Mobile? I have the same issue when trying to import DNG+JPG pairs created by other apps (such as Halide).

My workaround is to open each DNG+JPG in Apple Photos and use the share option to Edit in Lightroom. That then brings the JPG into LR Mobile but this has to be done one image at a time, which is cumbersome.

By @leed24280355

Thank you for sharing this. Typically users want to import only one of the two, which is why Lightroom for mobile focuses on the DNG workflow. Having said that, one way to speed importing JPEGs is to multi-select several images in Apple Photos and then share with Lightroom. This way, all of them will be shared in one go, instead of going one by one.

Participating Frequently

Actually, if I take concurrent DNG+JPG images, I usually want to import both. I often do this so I can compare the DNG to the JPG to see how good (or not) the JPGs are. With a real camera you can often shoot RAW + JPG at the same time and LR or LRC enables you to import both side by side. So it would be really cool if LRM could add this as an option.

I know of one app for iPhone that names the RAW and JPG slightly differently and in this case they appear as seperate files to LRM.

Lee

Participating Frequently

There is a bug whereby if you Reset Edits in LR on an Indigo DNG, the Profile changes from 'Indigo' to 'Adobe Color'. I was hoping that this would be fixed in the latest LR 8.5. Is this a bug that needs a change to LR to fix or is it an issue with the DNG that needs an update of Indigo to fix?

Adobe Employee

There is a bug whereby if you Reset Edits in LR on an Indigo DNG, the Profile changes from 'Indigo' to 'Adobe Color'. I was hoping that this would be fixed in the latest LR 8.5. Is this a bug that needs a change to LR to fix or is it an issue with the DNG that needs an update of Indigo to fix?

By @leed24280355

This is a bit of a tricky question, as there are several versions of the DNG that could be used when the user wants to reset. Two most important ones are a version as intended by the camera (i.e., with the Indigo profile and with other rendering preferences set by the camera), and what the user's default rendering settings are. So when you click on 'Reset' the system cannot know which version you want to see. That is why there are several resetting options in ACR and Lightroom like "Reset to Default" and "Reset to Open". A recommendation when editing is to save versions, so you can always go back to a version that is meaningful to you. Others on the forum may have more helpful suggestions.

Participating Frequently

I am using the cloud version of LR on a Mac and the option is under the menu option Photo/Reset Edits, which is supposed to reset the photo to how it was on import. If you do that on an Indigo DNG, the profile will change to 'Adobe Color'.

I have just realised that, at that point if you do Edit/Undo Reset Edits, it will switch the profile back to the Indigo one.

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realrev_

Participant

Here I want to share the night scene that my friend took in Japan. The Indigo camera is really great.

However, the problem is that sometimes it takes a quiet long time to open, or even just freezes. This problem has only recently occurred on my iPhone 16 pro max.

Adobe Employee

Here I want to share the night scene that my friend took in Japan. The Indigo camera is really great.

However, the problem is that sometimes it takes a quiet long time to open, or even just freezes. This problem has only recently occurred on my iPhone 16 pro max.

By @realrev_

This is a very nice photo - thank you for sharing! Regarding the app seemingly slowing down, a couple of questions: did you by any chance update your OS on the device? We have noticed issues with some iOS 26 beta versions (e.g., beta 6), so that could be a part of it. Second question is whether you rebooted your device recently? It can help sometimes. If the issue persist please reach out again and we'll debug further.

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realrev_

Participant

Hi Boris,

Thank you for getting back to me.

My device is currently on the latest iOS 18; I haven’t tried iOS 26 yet.

After rebooting my device, the issue has disappeared.

It is worth mentioning that the Indigo camera can produce some degree of purple fringing when photographing subjects with clearly defined edges, which can be rather bothersome in photography. That said, as someone who has been using Leica digital cameras for over a decade as a hobby, I remain very satisfied with the Indigo.

Best wishes

Known Participant

@BorisTheBlade I took a 2x SR and 10x SR on a scene with foliages to see how it handles fine details and I noticed some weird things. Either the merge didn't align right, or the fill AI didn't apply right bc there seems to be random radial blurring like faux bokeh look. Almost like bad portrait mode bokeh. I will attach raws for inspection, the SOOC jpeg, and crops of the issue place in lrm.

heres the 2x raw: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/vhka3jbknfc2hop0bl04w/IMG_9513.dng?rlkey=sg4ht215fnxepzs3knqjehnva&st=wyo5rr47&dl=0

here's the 10x raw: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5adm0dma9uzumqc5jib26/IMG_9518.dng?rlkey=0fr27v0ipw8ns1ejdrtwm18v5&st=aaibex6y&dl=0

Edit: Forgot to add that the 1x, 2x processing took approximately 6-7s after shutter pressed. Could this be improved upon?

Adobe Employee

@BorisTheBlade I took a 2x SR and 10x SR on a scene with foliages to see how it handles fine details and I noticed some weird things. Either the merge didn't align right, or the fill AI didn't apply right bc there seems to be random radial blurring like faux bokeh look. Almost like bad portrait mode bokeh. I will attach raws for inspection, the SOOC jpeg, and crops of the issue place in lrm.

By @nhan_8084

Foliage is notoriously challenging, because it is very high frequency content which is rarely static. Together with camera shake, alignment errors are hard to avoid. This is a high priority image quality improvement for the team, so we'll be working on improving the results in the upcoming releases.

Known Participant

@BorisTheBlade That is awesome to hear that it is high priority 🙂 I went back and edited the post to mention about slow processing time, please re-look if you didn't happen to see it while you responded.

oskar27

Participating Frequently

I've looked, but haven't found my question/answer. How do I prevent Night Mode from turning my night photos into "day"? What adjustments I should make, and can I make them defaults?

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gregbenz

Inspiring

If you mean that the exposure is too high, just being down exposure in the
LR edit. A brighter capture (without clipping) is always ideal to reduce
noise in the capture, but may be too bright artistically without darkening
in post.

Known Participant

Took a nice sunset photo today and attached the raw here: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/nk7i0ptjwko825htwn3on/IMG_9503.dng?rlkey=gjdh23t1bpvuc52j5679r5uua&st=7o22s1ej&dl=0

There are some moire seen in the attached crops, along with grid like artifacts that is most likely related to the lines artifacts you mentioned before in my samples @BorisTheBlade . Is it possible to lessen the moire remosaic?

I also attached the final post processed jpeg in hdr.

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ambitious_Explorer5534

Participant

When will the application update be released?

Adobe Employee

When will the application update be released?

By @ambitious_Explorer5534

An updated version of Indigo is in the works. I cannot share an exact timeline, but we are aiming to make the next release quite big in terms of improvements made to the app, with the accent on addressing the most common complaints from our users shared so far. Please stay tuned.

Known Participant

@BorisTheBlade I came across the Greg Benz photography blog and saw an article he posted about gainmaps vs tonemapping here: https://gregbenzphotography.com/hdr-photos/gain-maps-vs-tone-mapping-hdr/ . So I noticed as mentioned with the moon shot example that Indigo's raw tends to default to HDR editing vs normal editing of raw (non-HDR). Since most social media websites, and browsers as mentioned by Greg do not have the capability to display HDR content even when viewed on a HDR screen such as our phones, it seems like we need to always edit using non-hdr mode in LRM correct? I say this because when I viewed a picture sent to facebook messenger, it displayed a very weird over-hdr looks vs the proper hdr viewing in google photos, Indigo's film strip viewer, or apple photos app. Does Indigo have a built in gain map to have it properly display in non-hdr monitors, social media apps like Greg mentioned or it's just because editing with HDR in LRM will give you improper results on non-HDR apps/monitors? Thanks!

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gregbenz

Inspiring

@nhan_8084 If you shoot RAW (DNG) with the app, you can simply choose the HDR mode or not in LRM. HDR looks amazing and I would use it if you have the screen for editing and share images on your own website or other places where you can ensure the HDR is retained. When you export the image as a JPG gain map, it will adapt to look great on any display (even those with limited or no HDR support). To do that, choose "maximize compatibility" (or JPG w/ gain map if you are exporting with my Web Sharp Pro plugin for Photoshop).

If you capture with JPG in Indigo, it is making a gain map and already has an SDR base image.

So either way, HDR is safe and can offer significant benefits. The issue you would see in my link is when HDR is shared without a gain map.

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jrsforums

Inspiring

Will LRc jpegs automatically contain gain maps or does one need to adjust settings to get them?

Known Participant

So I wanted to try out max 25x handheld on the moon, and the result is just incredible! I have never able to take the moon like this with any app, even stock app. The attached picture is manual setting iso, shutter and focus. Raw processed to jpeg. @BorisTheBlade There are some weird lines as mentioned before when I showed 10x in motion object, and eventhough handheld is tad shakey vs tripod, it still exists but not bad! I disabled Indigo's profile and went with Adobe Standard as well. I am truely truely shocked that the small periscope sensor can even do this. This is not the work of AI or ML from Indigo right? If so I don't mind bc it is just outstanding! I cannot wait for what Indigo has in store once the periscope gets to 48mp, even if binned, the sensor will be much larger.

Known Participant

@BorisTheBlade could you please respond to my questions here?

Adobe Employee

@BorisTheBlade could you please respond to my questions here?

By @nhan_8084

Multi-frame super-resolution is indeed done with AI. But it is not the kind of AI that hallucinates (i.e., it's not Generative AI). Instead, it uses natural handshake motion of the camera to fill in the missing detail. This can work only IF the lens resolution is higher than the sensor resolution. If the lens is diffraction limited, then there is no extra resolution to be recovered this way, so multi-frame super-resolution may bring much in terms of detail improvements. You will notice that, generally speaking, 2x zoom on Indigo is better than 10x zoom. That is because 2x camera is much, much sharper than the 5x one.

The lines you are seeing are artifacts in image processing, which happen sometimes, more so with moving objects. The ML model doesn't hallucinate, but may make a mistake like that. We'll work on minimizing those.

garyl69852430

Participant

I shoot a lot of infrared with my iPhone, and when using a 720nm external filter, the ability to set the white balance to 1400Kelvin lets me compose an image in nearly black and white.

Indigo currently goes down to 2000 Kelvin. Any plans to permit an extended white balance down to perhaps 1000 Kelvin?

Alternately the ability to select black and white viewing would also work for my purpose...

Any plans for a black and white setting?