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March 28, 2024

Idiot grins

  • March 28, 2024
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Why does every person have to have a stoopid smile? Even when I type "Sad", they still smile.

4 replies

@mj
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 13, 2024

Hi @B36381286it82 ,

 

Faces in this latest iteration of FF seems to give very weird results.

 

It can gert frustrating because it tends to simply ignore your tweaks to the prompt.

 

I find if I start from scratch and save the ones I sorta can work with as ref images, I can panel beat the results FF gives.

 

hth

mj

iMSD

henniel62784941
Participant
April 11, 2024

Honestly I love Adobe in general and would never "get rid" of Adobe in my tech stack. But this flaw in Firefly caused me to adapt and rely on other AI generators, very early in my text to image endeavours. This "preference for people to be happy" is nonsense! There is a preference that a text to image generator respects the prompt I give. Honestly its not an acceptable answer.

droopydog500
Community Manager
Community Manager
March 28, 2024

"Not smiling" tends not to work as the model does not seem to understand words that negate the following word. 

Because of that, you end up with the thing you are trying to eliminate actually getting added.  For example,

  • "no mountain" ends up generating mountains
  • "without facial hair" ends up showing beards
  • "no men" ends up adding men
  • "no stairs" ends up adding a staircase

 

It is best to try to describe the negative prompt concept in a single word, if possible (even if the word you use is not a real English word):

  • "beardless" rather than "without facial hair"
  • "mountainless" rather than "no mountains"
  • "flat-land" rather than "no mountains"
  • "women" rather than "no men"
  • "stairless" rather than "no stairs"

 

In this case frowning, serious, stern, rather than "not smiling".

 

There is a preference for people to be "happy".  I have found that you need to use strong emotions to get less happy people. Strong negative emotions in prompts generally result in neutral to slightly negative emotions in people. So, even if your people are not actually sad, crying, or angry, you can make them look neutral with those words in prompts.

 

angry man looking in distance

https://firefly.adobe.com/public/t2i?id=urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AUS%3A0e0e97ba-2533-420c-81ee-9958ace0b22c&...

 

sad crying man looking in distance

https://firefly.adobe.com/public/t2i?id=urn%3Aaaid%3Asc%3AUS%3Acd09d0f0-ce8a-48c8-93a2-cea8f05e245b&...

 

Adobe Community Expert (not an Adobe employee)
Participant
March 28, 2024

Even when I type "Not smiling". Ugh!