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P: Lightroom/Camera Raw: I can no longer create a profile for an IR camera with the new profile SDK.

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February 19, 2020
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I have a camera converted to super color IR by Life Pixel. The method Life Pixel recommends to create a white balance profile is to export a raw file created with the IR camera as DNG. Next, run the DNG Profile Editor, open the file, click the Color Matrices tab, move the temperature slider all the way to the left, then export the profile for use in LR and ACR. This is necessary because the DNG Profile Editor lets you select a much lower color temperature than the Temperature sliders in LR/ACR.

The DNG Profile Editor has been abandoned by Adobe. It runs on Windows but does not scale on high resolution monitors. I read online that it does not run at all on Mac High Sierra or later.

The new Adobe Profile SDK, which is Adobe's replacement for the DNG Profile Editor, let's us create profiles in ACR. Unfortunately that does not work for those of us with IR cameras because the Temperature slider in ACR does not have the range of the Temperature slider in DNG Profile Editor as stated above.

Yes, the new profiles are XML and can be edited with a text editor but the temperature in DNG Profile Editor has a range of +-100 while the temperature sliders in ACR/LR are in degrees Kelvin. The problem is that the number stored in the new XML profile file appears to have a range of +-100 which as no relation to the color temperature in Kelvin or to the +-100 scale in DNG Profile Editor. So, I can edit the profile but I have no way to know what value to assign to the temperature.

So, what's an IR camera owner to do? If anyone has a solution that works with the new profile format I would love to try it. Thanks.

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Charles98A6

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When I download the editor to my Mac only half of the window appears, (the right side with the adjustment tabs). The "window" showing doesn't allow me to import a DNG file and the 'close' or 'full screen' buttons are grayed out, (minimise works) ?? And, the only way to close the window is to "force quit" the software when I've loaded it from Firefox, (if I load/open it from Safari I have to shut down and reboot my whole computer to close the window).

I also have to click the "open anyway" tab in Security & Privacy to open the program.

Anyone else having this problem? I see from these posts that others have had similar issues but resolved them using Firefox and pressing the "open anyway" tab in System Preferences. When I do those things I still only get "half" of the window.

Any help greatly appreciated!

Charles

johnrellis

Legend

Moderators, @Rikk Flohr: Photography, please merge with this existing CR Bug:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-bugs/p-lightroom-camera-raw-i-can-no-longer-create-a-profi...

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kyliefitts

Participant

Hi,

This seems to be a pretty common issue but I have yet to find a sufficient answer to this. I am editing on a Mac and do not have access to any Windows computer.

The DNG Profile Editor no longer works for me, I cannot adjust in the color matrices. Because of this I no longer am able to create a custom profile to help with infrared white balance. I'm wondering if there is a solution or if someone could just link me to their camera profile for macs.

Thanks!

gary_sc

Community Expert

Hi Kyliefitts,

On this page:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/digital-negative.html#resources

You can find a slew of stuff for creating DNG SDK, DNG 1.5.0.0 Specifications, SDK Profiles, DNG Profile Editors (for Mac and PC). The Adobe Lens Profile Creator and Downloader has not been updated since 1/1/2018 and is no longer available).

Nothing on that page is PC only.

As far as infrared, I am aware* that some cameras have infrared filters that prevent ifrared images from being taken.

* As you can see from this wording, I do not take infrared images so I can supply no extra information on this issue.

Does this help direct you to what you need/want?

Please let me know,

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gunboot

Participating Frequently

Hi everyone I'm trying to find a way of editing infrared DNG files to alter the white ballance before developing in lightroom. I have done this before but since upgrading to Mac IOS 10.15.3 it appears this no longer works any sugestion please?

johnrellis

Legend

Moderators, @Rikk Flohr: Photography, please merge with this existing CR Bug and change the title of that thread to "DNG Profiler Editor doesn't run on newer versions of Mac OS", since that is the predominant topic of the bug:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-bugs/p-lightroom-camera-raw-i-can-no-longer-create-a-profi...

Rikk Flohr_Photography

Community Manager

Bill,

A couple of items for you:

The DNG Profile Tool is still the preferred tool for this type of work. The SDK isn't really meant to be a replacement for the DNG Profile Creator. That said, the tool is under continued development.

It currently works on all versions of Windows 10, though the experience is suboptimal from a display resolution perspective.
It should work on Mac through version 10.14. I've verified it works through 10.14.6 on my machine.

I've spoken with the Camera Raw engineering team and they will be working on this in the future.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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