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P: Lightroom/Camera Raw: I can no longer create a profile for an IR camera with the new profile SDK.

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February 19, 2020
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I have a camera converted to super color IR by Life Pixel. The method Life Pixel recommends to create a white balance profile is to export a raw file created with the IR camera as DNG. Next, run the DNG Profile Editor, open the file, click the Color Matrices tab, move the temperature slider all the way to the left, then export the profile for use in LR and ACR. This is necessary because the DNG Profile Editor lets you select a much lower color temperature than the Temperature sliders in LR/ACR.

The DNG Profile Editor has been abandoned by Adobe. It runs on Windows but does not scale on high resolution monitors. I read online that it does not run at all on Mac High Sierra or later.

The new Adobe Profile SDK, which is Adobe's replacement for the DNG Profile Editor, let's us create profiles in ACR. Unfortunately that does not work for those of us with IR cameras because the Temperature slider in ACR does not have the range of the Temperature slider in DNG Profile Editor as stated above.

Yes, the new profiles are XML and can be edited with a text editor but the temperature in DNG Profile Editor has a range of +-100 while the temperature sliders in ACR/LR are in degrees Kelvin. The problem is that the number stored in the new XML profile file appears to have a range of +-100 which as no relation to the color temperature in Kelvin or to the +-100 scale in DNG Profile Editor. So, I can edit the profile but I have no way to know what value to assign to the temperature.

So, what's an IR camera owner to do? If anyone has a solution that works with the new profile format I would love to try it. Thanks.

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artistic_Star0197

Participant

I'm having the same problem. Is there a easy fix in the meantime?

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a.soffici

Participant

They didn't listen to you, apparently, as DNG Profile Editor doesn't work on newer Macs

Congratulations, Adobe, never fail to disappoint your customers

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nevadawiersantafe

Participant

Any news on an upgrade to the DNG Profile Editor? In Sequoia the Matrices menu is greyed out. I can still use a recipe but ... that could disappear with the next upgrade.

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defaultntkljv7z4m5c

Participant

Yeah this doesn't even work at all on Mac anymore. Update would be greatly appreciated. Or at least open source it.

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Jack27703904g0me

Participant

Sooo Rikk, the future is here, four years in now.. could you shed some light on a possible update to the DNG profile tool.. I am really wanting to be able to interface with camera raw so I can have a preset established for my infrared images..

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risottto

Known Participant

12 years since an update, I would say it's safe to say Adobe has abandoned DNG Profile Editor. Purchase Lumarivier Profile Designer Pro if you need the ability to edit DNG profiles, it will set you back $250 Euros, but at least it's not subscrption only!

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dscheenaard

Participant

Hi Rikk, I see that the DNG editor is still not working on Macs. What is happening with this program?

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Jao vdL

Community Expert

Note that the SDK is not the same as camera raw. You can now create profiles through camera raw too that contain a hidden white balance adjustment. I haven't used it for this so not sure how well it works but it is really the only thing that still works on Macs

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Jao vdL

Community Expert

DNG profile editor hasn't been maintained for many many years (last update was 2012). It hasn't worked on several of the last versions of Mac OS even on intel. It is unlikely unfortunately that Adobe will update it as they haven't done so since 2012. It will still run on windows indeed as others remarked but only since microsoft maintains compatibility with older code for longer, not because Adobe did anything. They haven't updated the windows version either.

You can use camera raw to create profiles that do the same thing (create special profiles to correct extreme lighting) so recommend you look into that.

johnrellis

Legend

"You can use camera raw to create profiles that do the same thing (create special profiles to correct extreme lighting) so recommend you look into that. "

Adobe employee Rikk Flohr said in another thread about using the Profile Editor for creating infrared profiles:

"The DNG Profile Tool is still the preferred tool for this type of work. The SDK isn't really meant to be a replacement for the DNG Profile Creator. That said, the tool is under continued development."

johnrellis

Legend

Moderators, @Rikk Flohr: Photography, please merge with this existing CR Bug and change the title of that thread to "DNG Profiler Editor doesn't run on newer versions of Mac OS", since that is the predominant topic of the bug:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-bugs/p-lightroom-camera-raw-i-can-no-longer-create-a-profile-for-an-ir-camera-with-the-new-profile-sdk/idi-p/12239987

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Hossein5EB2

Participant

I am having the same problem. MacBook Pro 16'' 2019 i9. I hope someone could help.