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Inspiring
January 9, 2025

Puppet's tongue disappears in Record view

  • January 9, 2025
  • 5 replies
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Hi

I don't know if this is a bug or a setting, but when I look at my puppet in Rig view, the 'surprised' mouth has a tongue, but when I move to Record view, the tongue has disappeared. This doesn't happen with the Oh mouth shape (I'm in the middle of creating mouth shapes), so why this one? I've tried renaming the tongue in Illustrator, and breaking up the tongue group, but it never shows up in Record view. What's going on?

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TheOriginalGC
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 10, 2025

Glad to hear you figured it out. Very strange though.

Inspiring
January 10, 2025

I've just got it working, but I don't know why. I tried hiding the tongue layer and putting a rectangle in its place - in the layer above the hidden tongue. This made the rectangle act as a mask in Ch, so I could see the tongue just where the rectangle was - not outside it.

I deleted the rectangle and put a copy of the tongue randomly on his cheek. In Ch, I couldn't see the new tongue, but the original tongue showed up correctly in his mouth.

I have now pasted in place a copy of the tongue in the layer above the original tongue - and this works. If I hide the upper layer tongue, the original tongue is still visible in Ch. If I hide the original tongue and just show the new tongue, nothing shows in Ch.

So I now have two tongues - one hidden and one showing - and this looks as it should in Ch.

Weird.

Thanks for your offer to look at the puppet, but it seems to be working well enough now.

TheOriginalGC
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 10, 2025

It could be something as simple as layers (the back of the mouth is displaying over the tongue). The quick fix is to just use the mouth that works for that particular viseme until we can troubleshoot your puppet. Would you mind exporting the puppet file (*.puppet) and uploading it to a file sharing service and posting the link? (you can send me a DM if you prefer)  If you've never exported a puppet file, let me know and I'll walk you through the process.

Inspiring
January 10, 2025

I made it in Illustrator. There are no masks or filters - just layers. Another mouth that I made in the same way - in the same set of mouths - is showing up fine.

TheOriginalGC
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 10, 2025

In what editor did you make the puppet? Did you use a mask of any kind? Some of the filters in Illustator and Photoshop do not translate readily to CH.