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February 28, 2020

P: Bleeding color with Healing Tool

  • February 28, 2020
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I updated to 9.3 this morning. Healing aspect of spot removal tool now has bleeding in many previously edited pictures which did not previously have bleeding -- what was before a clean background with spots removed now has ugly bleeding of color, and I can't use the healing tool properly in new edits either -- bleeds result.   What can I do to fix this -- I am pretty concerned, this has affected many photos.  Thanks.

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Legend
March 1, 2020
Is the problem related to having the Lens Correction option Enable Profile Correction turned on?

I noticed that having lens profile correction on actually 'crops' the edge, but the spot removal tool acts as though it is working on the image data before the lens correction is applied.

Here is an example of spot removal of a leaf that appears on the edge of a lens profile corrected image. The before and after shows how much the lens profile has 'cropped' the edge.



Clicking on the leaf with the spot removal tool in heal mode and moving the sample point results in a smudge.



I think the smudge is due to Lr blending with part of the leaf that is 'outside' the lens corrected image, but 'inside' the original image boundary. Turning the lens profile correction off shows this more clearly.



This has always been a problem with cropped images, but I didn't realise it is also a problem with lens profile corrected images!

I've argued in the past about this problem in cropped images where the spot removal on the edge of a cropped image can sample and blend with image data outside the crop boundary, which is often undesired. Here we have the same problem, except the crop is less obvious.

Tony
Todd Shaner
Legend
February 29, 2020
you'd get the same result if it's uncropped
If the image is uncropped Heal should remove the tree branches.

*tpnotes said, "have attached two screenshots showing the effect for the edge of an UNcropped image.
 I suggest uploading the original image file to Dropbox or other file sharing site.

Jerry Syder
Inspiring
February 29, 2020
This is the expected(not desired) behaviour of using the heal tool in an area to the edge that's cropped(you'd get the same result if it's uncropped). What heal is doing is trying to blend tones and textures in the area. Although you can't see the leaves in the cropped area, it is there so LR tries to blend it. The only thing that won't do that is 'Clone' which is what you need to use in these instances.
Known Participant
February 29, 2020
I have attached two screenshots showing the effect for the edge of an UNcropped image.

Spot removal tool was set to healing, feather = 0 and opacity = 100. These settings have led to the "best" results. Changing the size of the spot removal tool has no effect.

(I use Lightroom with the German localization, so I hope I have guessed the proper English terms)






Known Participant
February 29, 2020
I assume Victoria means the open button in the Creative Cloud App.
Known Participant
February 29, 2020
On Windows, the only Open button with an arrow is Open Recent and that only gives the option to open a recently used catalog. 
Victoria Bampton LR Queen
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 29, 2020
Any chance of some screenshots so we can see exactly what you mean?
Victoria - The Lightroom Queen
Victoria Bampton LR Queen
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 29, 2020
You can revert to 9.1 if you want to, just click the arrow next to the Open button and select from Other Versions.
Victoria - The Lightroom Queen
Known Participant
February 28, 2020
I concur, having the same problem and thought it was just me. Playing with feathering sometimes helps a little but doesn't clear up the issue. For me, definitely new with 9.2. 
 
Perhaps it is time to start a movement to get Adobe to revert Lightroom to 9.1 as 9.2 is a terribly buggy release? 

Known Participant
February 28, 2020
I have recently noticed a similar behaviour with a cropped image. I have tried to remove a small dark spot on a nearly white background near the edge of a crop. I was absolutely sure that the area outside the crop was of the same white color and texture as the background of the crop. No matter what I tried I always got a kind of dark shadow in the healed area. 

I was surprised about this since I have not noticed such a poor behaviour of the spot removal tool for quite a while.