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February 28, 2020

P: Bleeding color with Healing Tool

  • February 28, 2020
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I updated to 9.3 this morning. Healing aspect of spot removal tool now has bleeding in many previously edited pictures which did not previously have bleeding -- what was before a clean background with spots removed now has ugly bleeding of color, and I can't use the healing tool properly in new edits either -- bleeds result.   What can I do to fix this -- I am pretty concerned, this has affected many photos.  Thanks.

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Participating Frequently
June 17, 2020
I don't use camera raw, and I have now reverted to the prior version of Lightroom since so many of my pictures were affected by this bleeding.  I hope Adobe will fix this problem soon so I can restore the update.  
Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
June 17, 2020
Do you see the same issue in Adobe Camera Raw or is it happening only in Lightroom Classic?
Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Legend
June 16, 2020
I'm extremely disappointed in the Lr development team for releasing LrC 9.3 without having fixed this issue.

 Here's a screen shot of my example.



Here is the result of LrC 9.3 Spot Removal in Heal mode to remove my artificial spots, including the tree branches in the lower left corner.



For comparison, here is the same removal using Lr 9.2.1



Now, as pointed out in this post, many users will have their images ruined by this newly introduced bug.

Unfortunately, there is little that can be done except revert back to Lr 9.2.1, which is not what paying customers expect to have to do.
Just Shoot Me
Legend
June 16, 2020
As above a screen shot of what you are seeing on your screen would help to solve your problem.
Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
June 16, 2020
Can you post an example image showing the effect you are describing?
Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Legend
March 1, 2020
I agree Todd, I'm always in favour of giving the user more control and a 'Constrain to image' option on Spot removal would be just such control.

The frame edge spot removal in heal mode problem has been raised before:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/spot-removal-in-heal-mode-doesnt-work-properly-at-a-crop-boundary-edge

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/latest-lr-buggy-spot-removal-tool-doesnt-work-right-at-edges-of-image

Todd Shaner
Legend
March 1, 2020
As best I can tell the frame edge Spot Removal Heal behavior isn't something new. It sounds like this should be designated as an 'Idea.' Add a checkbox in the Spot Removal panel named 'Constrain to image' or something like that.

Inspiring
March 1, 2020
As I clearly mentioned, this is an UN-cropped image, with NO lens corrections enabled or transformations, so my particular issue has nothing to do with any of those scenarios. 

I've been using Lr professionally on a near-daily basis for over 10 years, and while it could've been me or some odd situation with the few particular images (but being as it was more than one image I don't think that's the case)... it was definitely behaving differently lately than it used to, so not the expected or usual behavior at all, so I thought I'd raise the issue.

Strangely, I just tried to reproduce it to get some screen shots but couldn't.  So maybe it was something odd going on with my computer or me.  🙂  But as I mentioned the image had an all-black edge (a groom's tux jacket standing partially out of frame), except for a little sliver area of white.  I tried to remove the white area, sampling with my spot far beyond the white, far into the black.  In the past it would completely remove 100% of the white, leaving only black, but when I raised the issue it was leaving behind some white.  No matter where I sampled, how far into the black my spot was, how big or small it was, etc.

BTW, again it wasn't my issue in this case, but I do agree with Tony that it would be great if Lr treated the edge of a cropped image as if it were the actual edge of the image, as far as spot healing goes.  There's been countless times when I've had to un-crop an image before I heal, then re-crop it.  Not a huge deal, but would be nice...
Known Participant
March 1, 2020
I am using a MFT-Lens/-Body (Olympus). So, yes - lens correction is enabled (built-in), but I have no option in Lightroom to disable it.

I remember that Lightroom should no longer use samples from outside the cropped area for the spot removal tool, but I do not remember where and when I have read that.
Known Participant
March 1, 2020
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/help/enhanced-spot-removal.html

"Heal Matches the texture, lighting, and shading of the sampled area to the selected area."

I am no native speaker, but for me "match" and "blend" are describing different behaviours.